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The stupidity of the anti-vaxx nutcases

Heard an alternative health practioner on the radio. Bit cagey about what they did with patients but it wasn't hands on. Happy to wear a mask and take all precautions . They had a perfectly reasonable reason for not wanting to be vaccinated. It went against they're belief aka religion and didn't align with how they approached health. As long as they weren't risking they're patients health they weren't going to take the vaccine. There was nothing you could do to change their mind obviously.
 
Damn! Blocked for the first time on twitter - and it only took about seven minutes from my first message!

if anyone fancies trolling this wanker I condone it :)

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I've been trying to identify what people I know who are otherwise quite unremarkable but have some bonkers beliefs, have in common with each other. I think what it is in part is them treating things they know as isolated experteses rather than part of any bigger picture. Some of them too are not exactly stupid but have been overloaded with stuff that they can't sort out in their brains. I heard about a friend of a friend who knew a great deal about Ancient Egypt and about The Tudors but revealed one day that they thought they both happened at roughly the same time.
 
Thing is, it’s kind of true in that the underlying commonality is a lack of trust in what they are told by authorities.
 
NoXion said:
Except that such a lack of trust is very selective. If the purported "authority" is some quack on Facebook, then they're perfectly happy to jump on board, despite the fact that quackery is demonstrably less effective than medicine.
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Selective, but not random. There is a common thread to the mistrust.
 
NoXion said:
Except that such a lack of trust is very selective. If the purported "authority" is some quack on Facebook, then they're perfectly happy to jump on board, despite the fact that quackery is demonstrably less effective than medicine.
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But the quack is at least consistent in their idiocy. The authorities running the country have flip flopped on advice, backtracked, changed things at the last minute, broken their own rules…. None of that builds faith or trust.
 
NoXion said:
Except that such a lack of trust is very selective. If the purported "authority" is some quack on Facebook, then they're perfectly happy to jump on board, despite the fact that quackery is demonstrably less effective than medicine.
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It's not so much selective, I think, as a question of how closely the authoritative advice is to what the person wants to do anyway. So facebook "authorities", busily telling people to cast off their masks and go and have a good time is going to appeal a lot more, generally, than authorities telling people to wear masks, stay at home, or in some other way restrict their freedom to do what they want, earn a living, and/or have fun.
 
kabbes said:
Selective, but not random. There is a common thread to the mistrust.
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Yes, the common thread seems to be "I trust people who tell me what I want to hear, everyone else is an Illuminati shill"


purenarcotic said:
But the quack is at least consistent in their idiocy. The authorities running the country have flip flopped on advice, backtracked, changed things at the last minute, broken their own rules…. None of that builds faith or trust.
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That's reason enough to distrust the government. But that doesn't change the science of how vaccines work. Also such manifest incompetence should be more than enough to permanently put to bed any notion of a coherent global conspiracy involving thousands+ of people keeping their mouths shut despite incentives to talk.
 
NoXion said:
Yes, the common thread seems to be "I trust people who tell me what I want to hear, everyone else is an Illuminati shill"




That's reason enough to distrust the government. But that doesn't change the science of how vaccines work. Also such manifest incompetence should be more than enough to permanently put to bed any notion of a coherent global conspiracy involving thousands+ of people keeping their mouths shut despite incentives to talk.
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Well that's the arguement I use, "look, the powers that be can't even get your tax right all of the time, and the news sites are constantly reporting leaks of information, so firstly they couldn't organise themselves into a conspiracy and secondly it would be all over the BBC" .
 
izz said:
Well that's the arguement I use, "look, the powers that be can't even get your tax right all of the time, and the news sites are constantly reporting leaks of information, so firstly they couldn't organise themselves into a conspiracy and secondly it would be all over the BBC" .
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well perhaps not the BBC but yes to the rest :)
 
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