The stupidity of the anti-vaxx nutcases
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This is utterly hilarious, can you pm me with a link ?
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petee
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LeytonCatLady
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I've decided I'm going to find another house/flatshare when I've got enough for a deposit. I can hopefully start busking again on 19 July if Freedom Day goes ahead, and if not I can start by putting aside 100 quid or so each month from my Universal Credit until then, and maybe get some temp work. I feel better now I've made that decision. I considered lying to my housemate about getting my second jab for the sake of peace, but a) I shouldn't have to do that and b) true friends wouldn't pressure you about a personal medical decision like being vaccinated and say "Well, I won't hang out with you if you do or don't", just like I haven't ostracised him for not getting his. He knew I was planning to get the jab, so if it was a dealbreaker for him I think it was pretty mean of him not to warn me before I had it. At least then I could have made a choice about whether to put it off until I could move out or whatever. Not that I'd have done anything differently, but the point is he sprung this "I'm-avoiding-you-cus-of-shedding" bullshit on me after I'd had my first one when it was too late to do anything about it, which would be unfair even if the shedding theory was valid. I thought he was my friend, but real mates don't do that to each other.
At the end of the day, I'm a human being with feelings of my own and ideally it shouldn't be me who moves out - as someone upthread said, he should if he dislikes interaction/being around vaccinated people so much. But it's not an ideal world, and while I can't control the behaviour of my housemates, I can and will choose not to stick around and be subject to it. I'll stay pleasant while I'm still living here but I don't think I'll bother staying in contact when I've gone. I've still got my mates I don't live with, who I can trust to be reasonable; and I can get to know more people in my next houseshare and when I can go busking and to the pub again. It's annoying to have to start again, and I'll miss the cat, but he's started keeping her in his room at all times now anyway.
At the end of the day, I'm a human being with feelings of my own and ideally it shouldn't be me who moves out - as someone upthread said, he should if he dislikes interaction/being around vaccinated people so much. But it's not an ideal world, and while I can't control the behaviour of my housemates, I can and will choose not to stick around and be subject to it. I'll stay pleasant while I'm still living here but I don't think I'll bother staying in contact when I've gone. I've still got my mates I don't live with, who I can trust to be reasonable; and I can get to know more people in my next houseshare and when I can go busking and to the pub again. It's annoying to have to start again, and I'll miss the cat, but he's started keeping her in his room at all times now anyway.
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Anti-vaxxer attacks on London health staff ‘are on the rise’
Health workers and volunteers on the front line of the vaccine roll-out in London are being physically are verbally abused by anti-vaxxers, it can be revealed.
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LeytonCatLady
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Disgusting. NHS staff have a hard enough job as it is without that.Scum
Anti-vaxxer attacks on London health staff ‘are on the rise’
Health workers and volunteers on the front line of the vaccine roll-out in London are being physically are verbally abused by anti-vaxxers, it can be revealed.
hitmouse
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That sounds like a good decision, hope you have better luck with your next place!I've decided I'm going to find another house/flatshare when I've got enough for a deposit. I can hopefully start busking again on 19 July if Freedom Day goes ahead, and if not I can start by putting aside 100 quid or so each month from my Universal Credit until then, and maybe get some temp work. I feel better now I've made that decision. I considered lying to my housemate about getting my second jab for the sake of peace, but a) I shouldn't have to do that and b) true friends wouldn't pressure you about a personal medical decision like being vaccinated and say "Well, I won't hang out with you if you do or don't", just like I haven't ostracised him for not getting his. He knew I was planning to get the jab, so if it was a dealbreaker for him I think it was pretty mean of him not to warn me before I had it. At least then I could have made a choice about whether to put it off until I could move out or whatever. Not that I'd have done anything differently, but the point is he sprung this "I'm-avoiding-you-cus-of-shedding" bullshit on me after I'd had my first one when it was too late to do anything about it, which would be unfair even if the shedding theory was valid. I thought he was my friend, but real mates don't do that to each other.
At the end of the day, I'm a human being with feelings of my own and ideally it shouldn't be me who moves out - as someone upthread said, he should if he dislikes interaction/being around vaccinated people so much. But it's not an ideal world, and while I can't control the behaviour of my housemates, I can and will choose not to stick around and be subject to it. I'll stay pleasant while I'm still living here but I don't think I'll bother staying in contact when I've gone. I've still got my mates I don't live with, who I can trust to be reasonable; and I can get to know more people in my next houseshare and when I can go busking and to the pub again. It's annoying to have to start again, and I'll miss the cat, but he's started keeping her in his room at all times now anyway.
l'Otters
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LeytonCatLady
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Thanks, but like I say I feel better about it now I've decided to detach. In a way, things were worse when I wasn't sure if there was something to be salvaged. But sometimes friendships don't work out and it's better to accept that when it happens. I'm going to invest in my friends who aren't idiots, and concentrate on getting to know new people who aren't idiots either. And even if I can't have a cat in my next place, I'll soon get to know the ones belonging to my new neighbours!
cupid_stunt
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I've decided I'm going to find another house/flatshare when I've got enough for a deposit. I can hopefully start busking again on 19 July if Freedom Day goes ahead, and if not I can start by putting aside 100 quid or so each month from my Universal Credit until then, and maybe get some temp work. I feel better now I've made that decision. I considered lying to my housemate about getting my second jab for the sake of peace, but a) I shouldn't have to do that and b) true friends wouldn't pressure you about a personal medical decision like being vaccinated and say "Well, I won't hang out with you if you do or don't", just like I haven't ostracised him for not getting his. He knew I was planning to get the jab, so if it was a dealbreaker for him I think it was pretty mean of him not to warn me before I had it. At least then I could have made a choice about whether to put it off until I could move out or whatever. Not that I'd have done anything differently, but the point is he sprung this "I'm-avoiding-you-cus-of-shedding" bullshit on me after I'd had my first one when it was too late to do anything about it, which would be unfair even if the shedding theory was valid. I thought he was my friend, but real mates don't do that to each other.
At the end of the day, I'm a human being with feelings of my own and ideally it shouldn't be me who moves out - as someone upthread said, he should if he dislikes interaction/being around vaccinated people so much. But it's not an ideal world, and while I can't control the behaviour of my housemates, I can and will choose not to stick around and be subject to it. I'll stay pleasant while I'm still living here but I don't think I'll bother staying in contact when I've gone. I've still got my mates I don't live with, who I can trust to be reasonable; and I can get to know more people in my next houseshare and when I can go busking and to the pub again. It's annoying to have to start again, and I'll miss the cat, but he's started keeping her in his room at all times now anyway.
It's sad you feel you have to do that, but it's probably for the best.
How is this guy going cope when almost everyone he knows has had the jab?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Denial will kick in.
LeytonCatLady
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To be honest, he's extremely introverted and shy, so I think in many ways he found lockdown a convenient reason not to see people, even though it got on top of him at times like it did all of us, and he's told me he thinks the whole situation is manipulated. But now things are opening up again so he no longer has that to fall back on, which is why I think he's latched onto the "shedding" thing so he can continue avoiding people. If we were still speaking, I'd tell him he doesn't need a reason for not socialising - just the fact he doesn't feel like it should be good enough! And he's not exactly been hesitant about telling us, his housemates, when he doesn't feel like chatting, and we've all respected that. But hey, it's not my problem any more.
A couple of weeks before CatGate kicked off, he'd mentioned he was considering moving out, so maybe he'll go and it won't be necessary for me to uproot myself after all. But I'm not going to rely on that happening. I've tried to be there for him and be a friend to him, and he clearly doesn't want it, so I need to do what's best for myself now.
two sheds
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Fucking insane that you're having to move out because someone who's not been vaccinated is scared of being infected by someone who's been vaccinated.
LeytonCatLady
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If I didn't laugh, I'd cry.
Fucking insane that you're having to move out because someone who's not been vaccinated is scared of being infected by someone who's been vaccinated.
LeytonCatLady
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My housemate came and apologised on Monday, both to me and the other guy we hang out/live with, because he's aware his behaviour recently has been pretty rude and antisocial. We're used to him hiding away from time to time, but I think I was taking it more personally than I normally would due to our vaccine disagreement. He even said he was starting to consider getting the jab for himself! I feel a bit guilty for the negative thoughts I was having about him last week but glad we seem to be friends again. I won't lie to him about my own vaccine status but I'm not going to mention it either. It's something we don't quite see eye to eye on and a topic that's probably best avoided.
(He also brought the cat downstairs and he was fine with me stroking her!)
(He also brought the cat downstairs and he was fine with me stroking her!)
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
Cool! Maybe/hopefully your sensibleness has rubbed off and may yet get them away from anit vaxness!
lazythursday
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My mum who has been refusing to get the vaccine relented this week and has had her first jab. I think the let the virus rip strategy has panicked her - and perhaps will do for many others. It's one thing refusing it when other measures are in place (even if you profess to think they're wrong) - quite another when an enormous wave of infection is heading at you and you have no defence. Certainly that is going to test your beliefs in the face of science to the max.
LeytonCatLady
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So did my younger brother. He's not generally antivax although he was hesitant about the Covid jab based on it being rushed through. What clinched it for him was the fact he was a heavy smoker from age 16 to 21, and felt he'd be a hypocrite to refuse something going into his body that would actually benefit him when he spent five years ingesting so much shite!
Someone whose facebook I haven't looked at for a while keeps posting anti-vaccine stuff. This is someone who is supposed to be anti-capitalist and has left-wing and anarchist facebook friends. They keep posting from a site called Global Research and posted this article:
www.globalresearch.ca
They cite this article as being an explanation of why women have irregular periods after the vaccine and why menopausal women "have periods/start bleeding" after having it.
They also claim that young adults who have had the vaccine suffer from immflamation of the heart, citing this article:
www.nbcnews.com
They posted a video of an american mother filmed with her sick young daughter who is supposed to have had the vaccine as part of a medical trial. The weeping mum in the video explains that her daughter has had all sorts of severe health problems and goes through the list.
They've also posted anti-vaccine stuff from Talk Radio and stated in an online conversation with another covidiot that masks don't work and that theres no point in wearing them. The other person agreed and said that lockdowns and social distancing work, but not masks, but we can't keep having lockdowns.
They also agreed that people who say we 'should wear masks forever' are 'brainwashed'.
Part of me can't be arsed engaging with this person, but part of me is tempted to try and show them up for what they are, even if it's just so others can see it.
I'm very tempted to post those studies that Cupid Stunt posted on another thread about the effectiveness of masks.
Inventor of mRNA Technology: Vaccine Causes Lipid Nanoparticles to Accumulate in ‘High Concentrations’ in Ovaries - Global Research
All Global Research articles can be read in 51 languages by activating the “Translate Website” drop down menu on the top banner of our home page (Desktop version). Visit and follow us on Instagram at @crg_globalresearch. *** On the “Dark Horse Podcast,” Dr. Robert Malone, creator of mRNA...
www.globalresearch.ca
They cite this article as being an explanation of why women have irregular periods after the vaccine and why menopausal women "have periods/start bleeding" after having it.
They also claim that young adults who have had the vaccine suffer from immflamation of the heart, citing this article:
More young adults than expected have reported heart inflammation following Covid-19 vaccination
The condition, called myocarditis, is usually mild, but a handful of patients remain hospitalized.
www.nbcnews.com
They posted a video of an american mother filmed with her sick young daughter who is supposed to have had the vaccine as part of a medical trial. The weeping mum in the video explains that her daughter has had all sorts of severe health problems and goes through the list.
They've also posted anti-vaccine stuff from Talk Radio and stated in an online conversation with another covidiot that masks don't work and that theres no point in wearing them. The other person agreed and said that lockdowns and social distancing work, but not masks, but we can't keep having lockdowns.
They also agreed that people who say we 'should wear masks forever' are 'brainwashed'.
Part of me can't be arsed engaging with this person, but part of me is tempted to try and show them up for what they are, even if it's just so others can see it.
I'm very tempted to post those studies that Cupid Stunt posted on another thread about the effectiveness of masks.
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LeytonCatLady
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What I don't understand is those who are simultaneously against lockdown and vaccines. Surely vaccines get you out of lockdown quicker??? Or maybe they just want to pretend Covid's not happening.Someone whose facebook I haven't looked at for a while keeps posting anti-vaccine stuff. This is someone who is supposed to be anti-capitalist and has left-wing and anarchist facebook friends. They keep posting from a site called Global Research and posted this article:
Inventor of mRNA Technology: Vaccine Causes Lipid Nanoparticles to Accumulate in ‘High Concentrations’ in Ovaries - Global Research
All Global Research articles can be read in 51 languages by activating the “Translate Website” drop down menu on the top banner of our home page (Desktop version). Visit and follow us on Instagram at @crg_globalresearch. *** On the “Dark Horse Podcast,” Dr. Robert Malone, creator of mRNA...
They site this article as being an explanation of why women have irregular periods after the vaccine and why menopausal women "have periods/start bleeding" after having it.
They also claim that young adults who have had the vaccine suffer from immflamation of the heart, citing this article:
More young adults than expected have reported heart inflammation following Covid-19 vaccination
The condition, called myocarditis, is usually mild, but a handful of patients remain hospitalized.
They've also posted anti-vaccine stuff from Talk Radio and stated in an online conversation with another covidiot that masks don't work and that theres no point in wearing them. The other person agreed and said that lockdowns and social distancing work, but not masks, and we can't keep having lockdowns.
They also agreed that people who say we 'should wear masks forever' are 'brainwashed'.
Part of me can't be arsed engaging with this person, but part of me is tempted to try and show them up for what they are, even if it's just so others can see it.
By the way, I had my first jab in May and I've been on time both months since like Big bloody Ben.
That's a very good point and I'll be tempted to post about it on their page.
Larry O'Hara
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moving is wise I think: asap! Leave him a tin-foil hat as a present maybe?I've decided I'm going to find another house/flatshare when I've got enough for a deposit. I can hopefully start busking again on 19 July if Freedom Day goes ahead, and if not I can start by putting aside 100 quid or so each month from my Universal Credit until then, and maybe get some temp work. I feel better now I've made that decision. I considered lying to my housemate about getting my second jab for the sake of peace, but a) I shouldn't have to do that and b) true friends wouldn't pressure you about a personal medical decision like being vaccinated and say "Well, I won't hang out with you if you do or don't", just like I haven't ostracised him for not getting his. He knew I was planning to get the jab, so if it was a dealbreaker for him I think it was pretty mean of him not to warn me before I had it. At least then I could have made a choice about whether to put it off until I could move out or whatever. Not that I'd have done anything differently, but the point is he sprung this "I'm-avoiding-you-cus-of-shedding" bullshit on me after I'd had my first one when it was too late to do anything about it, which would be unfair even if the shedding theory was valid. I thought he was my friend, but real mates don't do that to each other.
At the end of the day, I'm a human being with feelings of my own and ideally it shouldn't be me who moves out - as someone upthread said, he should if he dislikes interaction/being around vaccinated people so much. But it's not an ideal world, and while I can't control the behaviour of my housemates, I can and will choose not to stick around and be subject to it. I'll stay pleasant while I'm still living here but I don't think I'll bother staying in contact when I've gone. I've still got my mates I don't live with, who I can trust to be reasonable; and I can get to know more people in my next houseshare and when I can go busking and to the pub again. It's annoying to have to start again, and I'll miss the cat, but he's started keeping her in his room at all times now anyway.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
If you do end up having to move out because of shedding boy LeytonCatLady, leave a note as you head out telling him you've licked every surface in the house.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
And every teaspoon, except one.
Dystopiary
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So glad for you about the cat! And the rest of course!
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