neonwilderness
What would Badgers do?
A couple of nights in the highlands this week doing Fort William - Glen Nevis - Corrour. Great weather, but the midges were a bit much 
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UnderOpenSky
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Black Friday sales. I've just ordered a Montane Extreme Jacket for £85. Properly had to think on this one. If I was still working in the outdoors, I'd have pulled the trigger like a shot, but I work in an office now, so it seems an indulgence. It's probably going to way to warm for me to walk and not slip into a tiny pouch in a bag, but they are bombproof and should last for many years. Anyone else treating themselves to anything?
www.sportsshoes.com
Montane Extreme Jacket
The definitive, single-layer, softshell, extreme mountain Jacket that keeps you feeling warm and comfortable during outdoor activities.
www.sportsshoes.com
Stig
Condimentalist
Ouch! How did you do that?
baldrick
hmmmmm
Nice. My Montane Prism has been the Goldilocks porridge of jackets for me for five years or so. I'll be gutted when it needs replacing.Black Friday sales. I've just ordered a Montane Extreme Jacket for £85. Properly had to think on this one. If I was still working in the outdoors, I'd have pulled the trigger like a shot, but I work in an office now, so it seems an indulgence. It's probably going to way to warm for me to walk and not slip into a tiny pouch in a bag, but they are bombproof and should last for many years. Anyone else treating themselves to anything?
Montane Extreme Jacket
The definitive, single-layer, softshell, extreme mountain Jacket that keeps you feeling warm and comfortable during outdoor activities.
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I'm getting this on pre order: Exmoor Waterproof Jacket
Which I'm hoping will solve all my running waterproof jacket problems. If it doesn't, I'm buying one of those thin transparent plastic ponchos for a few quid and giving up on the search!
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
They had them as well in the sale but I've tatty RAB that does a similar role, so probably a bit excessive.
That jacket looks nice! I've got an Inov-8 running one, which is pretty bombproof, my only problem is I run really warm and it's a bit much when I'm anywhere else other the desolate moorland!
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
I'm going up to Scotland in March to do some winter Munros. Been a few years since I've used my crampons. 
Just looking at the price of socks and it scares me. For years now I do most of my walking in trainers and if I do use boots, I find good trainer socks excellent. They won't cut the mustard with winter boots though and any proper walking socks I have are knacked from years of wearing them underground. If anyone sees any decent sales, let me know. I guess it's lucky that's probably all the kit I need.
Just looking at the price of socks and it scares me. For years now I do most of my walking in trainers and if I do use boots, I find good trainer socks excellent. They won't cut the mustard with winter boots though and any proper walking socks I have are knacked from years of wearing them underground. If anyone sees any decent sales, let me know. I guess it's lucky that's probably all the kit I need.
neonwilderness
What would Badgers do?
I generally use Alpkit ones. Trekkers for general day to day stuff, and the heavy weight hiker or waterproof ones for longer distance stuff.
It's pot luck whether they have what you want in stock though
alpkit.com
It's pot luck whether they have what you want in stock though
Socks for hillwalking, cycling and running
Socks for walking, trekking, cycling and running
alpkit.com
Idaho
blah blah blah
Panorama looking south east to west from Cosdon, Dartmoor. Some white speckles of chagford on the far left, and the high point of yes tor on the far right. A hearty 30kish from near lydford. There is a bus that links up with the okehampton train that serves the west side of the moor. Was originally going to walk to chagford, but was making good time and swung North after hangingstone hill to get the bus from sticklepath.
Friend of mine is planning a fortnight walking/camping in Scotland next April and looking for sleeping bag and general good-places-to-buy-kit recommendations, if anyone has any, please. Not sure of her budget but probably on the cheaper end of the scale without being totally shit.
(Expect this has been covered already but the thread's 22 pages long and there's been other recentish camping threads too and I'm lazy, sorry
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(Expect this has been covered already but the thread's 22 pages long and there's been other recentish camping threads too and I'm lazy, sorry
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neonwilderness
What would Badgers do?
Alpkit is a decent starting point for cheapish stuff that isn't shit. Although their prices have started to creep up now that they're becoming better known.
I'd recommend not skimping too much on the sleeping bag, being cold at night is pretty miserable. For April they'll probably want one with a comfort rating of at least zero degrees, if not something better. Down gives a better warmth to weight ratio.
I'd recommend not skimping too much on the sleeping bag, being cold at night is pretty miserable. For April they'll probably want one with a comfort rating of at least zero degrees, if not something better. Down gives a better warmth to weight ratio.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Down if they can afford it. Looks for sales on brands like Rab and Mountain Equipment. Alpkit is decent for the money, but rarely has sales.
Idaho
blah blah blah
I'm sure they already know this, but occasionally some don't - the best sleeping bag is useless without a reasonable mat. The ground sucks away all your warmth.Friend of mine is planning a fortnight walking/camping in Scotland next April and looking for sleeping bag and general good-places-to-buy-kit recommendations, if anyone has any, please. Not sure of her budget but probably on the cheaper end of the scale without being totally shit.
(Expect this has been covered already but the thread's 22 pages long and there's been other recentish camping threads too and I'm lazy, sorry
ETA - I now recall you've been homeless (unless I'm getting mixed up!), so profound apologies for teaching granny to suck eggs
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Yeah we'll both be lambing at a farm on the South Downs this spring that used to run a small basic campsite, so I'm thinking of suggesting we spend a night out there to really get across the importance of a mat and how much colder it'll feel out in the middle of nowhere at 4am even in the south of England, never mind northern Scotland!
Sleeping rough in a city is totally different from camping out in the sticks though. Several layers of thick corrugated cardboard works great to sleep on but I wouldn't fancy carrying it around with me and there's not many conveniently located bins to fish some out of in the middle of the countryside.ETA - I now recall you've been homeless (unless I'm getting mixed up!), so profound apologies for teaching granny to suck eggs
Idaho
blah blah blah
Back on the days of family camping with a car, I used to take cardboard for the tent floor - both for warmth and to minimise wet and muddy children.
baldrick
hmmmmm
There's an outdoor gear buy and sell group - outdoor gear exchange UK I think - if she has Facebook. The good stuff tends to go very quickly. Some bargains to be had though. Also if she puts a post up about what she's looking for, people will offer/recommend stuff.Friend of mine is planning a fortnight walking/camping in Scotland next April and looking for sleeping bag and general good-places-to-buy-kit recommendations, if anyone has any, please. Not sure of her budget but probably on the cheaper end of the scale without being totally shit.
(Expect this has been covered already but the thread's 22 pages long and there's been other recentish camping threads too and I'm lazy, sorry
My other suggestion would be Decathlon - not the lightest gear but pretty bombproof ime. And you can go to a shop and look at it before you buy.
neonwilderness
What would Badgers do?
I haven’t tried it myself, but I’ve heard of people using those insulated car window things under camping mats.
A mat with a decent R value would be better. But I guess it depends what kit they have already and how much they want to spend.
I thought of decathlon - not tried their camping stuff but I like their clothing and there's a shop just down the road - but the range of sleeping bags on their website is shit atm.
Anyway Idaho's post has just reminded me that cars are a thing
so I forgot to ask if they'd be carrying shit around with them or just driving to a campsite and using that as a base for walks for a few days before packing up and driving to the next site. If they're doing that I'll just suggest she gets a cheap second hand army one off ebay Just ordered an alpkit pipedream for myself though so cheers anyway!
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
I thought of decathlon - not tried their camping stuff but I like their clothing and there's a shop just down the road - but the range of sleeping bags on their website is shit atm.
Anyway Idaho's post has just reminded me that cars are a thing
Yes. If cars are a thing and you want bang for buck then synthetic is the way to go. Way more bulky, but you can shove it I'm the washing machine when you get back.
ska invita
back on the other side
have i understood this right:
www.theguardian.com
they were on an 8 mile circular hike
they had at least 2,5 liters of water
they died of dehydration
?
i appreciate it was really hot, but it doesnt sound that far to walk and they still had a lot of water relatively speaking
?
California family made numerous calls for help on fatal hike, phone data shows
Authorities were able to re-create the family’s hiking path using data, including GPS locations and photos, from their phones
they were on an 8 mile circular hike
they had at least 2,5 liters of water
they died of dehydration
?
i appreciate it was really hot, but it doesnt sound that far to walk and they still had a lot of water relatively speaking
?
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
have i understood this right:
California family made numerous calls for help on fatal hike, phone data shows
Authorities were able to re-create the family’s hiking path using data, including GPS locations and photos, from their phones
they were on an 8 mile circular hike
they had at least 2,5 liters of water
they died of dehydration
?
i appreciate it was really hot, but it doesnt sound that far to walk and they still had a lot of water relatively speaking
?
Not that surprised - in some hot, sandy places of my acquaintance the litre of water an hour at 45c was easily passed, and moreover they may simply have been overcome by the heat almost regardless of how much water they had.
Hyperthermia can have similar cognitive effects to hypothermia - bad decision making, lethargy, failure to notice stuff going wrong. Stuff like sitting in out in the blazing sun because there's a tiny whisp of a breeze, rather than sitting in the shade where there's none, but where it's 10 degrees cooler.
Add the emotional/psychological shock of the baby being visibly Ill and they were fucked.
neonwilderness
What would Badgers do?
A couple of nights in Northumberland. Plenty of snow and flooding, so thankfully I was staying at the place in the last photo rather than camping
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
I don't know if this is to much or to late, but got this in an email, thought it a good deal and thought of you iona
Mountain Equipment Helium 400 Womens Regular - Blackberry
An incredibly light, versatile and packable sleeping bag well suited to backpacking and cycle touring that will still happily cope with cooler nights during the spring and summer months.
www.climbers-shop.com
