rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
Exactly. The police and magistrataes obviously have a real bee in their bonnet about him. as soon as he leaves prison he is re-arrested. I'd write to my MSP about it if i was in Scotland
The 'Naked Rambler' jailed for 22 months, following arrest within 60 seconds of his release!
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Exactly. The police and magistrataes obviously have a real bee in their bonnet about him. as soon as he leaves prison he is re-arrested. I'd write to my MSP about it if i was in Scotland
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
He needs to take his case to Europe, Germany is a big fish in that pond and they love mooching about in the buff.
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
To be fair he was only re-arrested because he was infact doing exactly the same thing again, not like they were trumped up charges trying desperately to pin anything on him.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
You miss the point - how is walking around with no clothes on 'breaching the peace'?
It's obviously become a "battle of wills" (or should that be "willies"!) between the Scottish police and this bloke, to judge by the way they are acting. Maybe they are worried that "if we let one person get away with it, next thing you know, they'll all be at it", or something. Given Scottish weather, this doesn't seem that likely!
Giles..
Giles..
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
((((Ginger pubes everywhere))))
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
It was determined it was a crime, infact he even went to prison for it, he then decided to do it again immediately upon his release, how would you expect that to go?
You think that having just imprisoned someone for however long, that the people who put him there would decide that it suddenly was ok again with no change in legislation having just released him?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Yes, and he should take it away from Jockland and in to Europe and get a load of wobbly bitted Germans on the case. What the Scotch are doing is against the law.
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
If he had managed to keep his clothes on I am guessing they would have been more than happy to see the back of him, and no doubt surprised that they couldnt see the whole of the back of him.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Being naked isn't a crime. The British, (mainly Scottish), judiciary are making a moral call that the naked form is so outrageous that it is likely to encourage others to commit crime. I think they are wrong and I'd bet the European Court of Human Rights would agree with me.
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
Regardless of your personal opinion, those that locked him up oddly havent changed there mind about it simply because he refuses to give up and they are the ones currently with the power to do this. Simply being stubborn is not a legal argument, as a result the same legality that had him arrested to begin with, did again, being as it has happened, repeatedly, there is surely no surprise that it continues to.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Those locking him up are a state that has a population less than that of London.
This is the same state that feels 8 years is enough prison time for murdering 270 people.
Maybe my views are Daily Mail, but I feel that these two cases don't reflect well on the Scottish judicial system.
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
Fail to see what the size of the state has to do with whether it feels it should be consistent in applying law it has decided on, case law and precedent are the basis of British law.
Those sentences are inconsistent with each other considering the scale of each offence, yes that sentence was too short for killing a huge number of people, its completely irrelevant regarding whether they should let this man go simply because he is persistent in continuing to behave in the way that has got him locked up repeatedly.
Dont think your views are Daily Mail at all, they would probably want him on a sex offenders register for being naked within 500miles of a school, which again is ridiculous.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Saying that perhaps Scotland's (& maybe England/Wales') courts are way out of step with those of the greater legal jurisdiction that they are part of and as such are acting in a petty and illegal manner.
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
is it fair to keep someone in prison for 5 years for this. If they let him he may try to to go somewhere where they wouldn't be so against it
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
And he could have gone wherever the hell he wanted if he hadnt decided to be naked while getting there, which he was well aware of considering the number of times its happened. But he did it anyway, his choice.
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
This is why I asked WTF is wrong with him in the OP.
This has been going on for years and every time he leaves prison naked, it's got to be 4 or 5 times now, he's re-arrested and is straight back in again, you would have thought he would have sussed how pointless it is, the Scottish courts are clearly not about to back down unless they are forced to in some way.
Despite reading about these re-arrests over the years, I can't re-call ever reading of him making any appeals despite his defence that his human rights are being breached, which would be the logical thing to do if he actually wants to make a point and force the Scottish police & courts to back-off.
Or, leave the prison with at least a pair of pants on and return to England where he can wander around bollock naked to his heart's content.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
tbf I think there is at least a good chance that - the lights are on, but there is no one home, iyswim
Seriously, WTF is wrong with this freak?
I admire his indefatigability personally. A lesser man would have buckled.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
There is a difference between indefatigability and stupidity..
Eh?
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Well it is obvious they aren't going to let him go naked directly from prison yet he does it again and again, stupidity.
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
Yep, stupidity of the highest order.
Or perhaps their rules are stupid?
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Sure their rules are stupid.
But that does not mean that repeatedly breaking them is a wise thing to do, unless you like it in prison.
Perhaps he likes prison?
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Hey I am all for his stance. I just think he is misjudging his battle.
As I think I mentioned above in the thread, humans are perhaps the only animal that has learnt to be revolted by its own skin.
And that is a situation which is quite ridiculous.
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
I've done a check on google to see if he has ever appealed against these jail terms and can't see anything, but he has his own page on Wikipedia, which lists his court cases & outcomes, but no mention of any appeals.
Although before heading to Scotland he was arrested twice in England he was released almost immediately on both occasions, which I guess has a lot to do with THIS CASE in 2001...
Although before heading to Scotland he was arrested twice in England he was released almost immediately on both occasions, which I guess has a lot to do with THIS CASE in 2001...
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