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RD2003
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Russia ready if west wants to fight for Ukraine on battlefield, Lavrov says
If the west wants to fight for Ukraine on the battlefield, Russia is prepared for it, acting Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov was quoted as saying by the state-run RIA new agency on Monday.The Kremlin said last week that sending Nato troops into Ukraine would potentially be extremely dangerous, and that Moscow was closely watching a Ukrainian petition calling for such an intervention.
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
The Kremlin has said that exercises involving non-strategic nuclear weapons that Vladimir Putin has ordered would be held “in the relevant timeframes” and that this was a matter for the defence ministry.
Earlier this month, the Russian president ordered his military to practise the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons after what Moscow said were threats from France, Britain and the US.
When asked about the exercises on Monday, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said: “This is a question for the defence ministry. There is indeed an order from the Supreme commander-in-chief, it will be executed in the relevant timeframes.”
Putin has periodically warned that the country is ready to fight a nuclear war and regularly orders strategic nuclear drills, which typically employ intercontinental ballistic missiles. It is less common for Russia to hold tactical nuclear drills, which use weapons that have a lower yield and are meant to be used on the battlefield.
Earlier this month, the Russian president ordered his military to practise the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons after what Moscow said were threats from France, Britain and the US.
When asked about the exercises on Monday, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said: “This is a question for the defence ministry. There is indeed an order from the Supreme commander-in-chief, it will be executed in the relevant timeframes.”
Putin has periodically warned that the country is ready to fight a nuclear war and regularly orders strategic nuclear drills, which typically employ intercontinental ballistic missiles. It is less common for Russia to hold tactical nuclear drills, which use weapons that have a lower yield and are meant to be used on the battlefield.
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
Zelensky's started calling for World War 3 again.
'Western allies are taking too long to make key decisions on military support for Ukraine, the country’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, has told Reuters as Russia is expected to step up its offensive in the north-east.
He also said he was pushing partners to get more directly in the war by helping to intercept Russian missiles over Ukraine and allowing Kyiv to use western weapons against enemy military equipment amassing near the border.
“Russians are using 300 planes on the territory of Ukraine. We need at least 120, 130 planes to resist in the sky,” Zelenskiy said.
Ukraine is waiting for the delivery of F-16 fighter jets. Zelenskiy said that if countries could not supply the planes straight away, they could still fly them from neighbouring Nato states and shoot down Russian missiles.
The Ukrainian president said Kyiv was negotiating with international partners to use their weapons to strike Russian military hardware at the border and further inside Russian territory. “So far, there is nothing positive,” he said. Zelenskiy reiterated that he had not broken agreements with allies not to use their weapons inside Russia. “We can’t put the whole volume of weapons at risk.”
Ukraine’s allies should lift such restrictions, the Lithuanian foreign minister, Gabrielius Landsbergis, said.
“From the beginning we have made the mistake of limiting the Ukrainians because it could be seen as an escalation,” he said, adding that Ukraine’s supporters were “dominated by fear of Russia … the Ukrainians must be allowed to use the equipment provided to them so that they can achieve strategic objectives. They must be able to strike Russian territory, supply lines, and military units preparing to attack Ukraine. Only one side has rules imposed on it,” he said. “We must abandon these rules that we created.'
'Western allies are taking too long to make key decisions on military support for Ukraine, the country’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, has told Reuters as Russia is expected to step up its offensive in the north-east.
He also said he was pushing partners to get more directly in the war by helping to intercept Russian missiles over Ukraine and allowing Kyiv to use western weapons against enemy military equipment amassing near the border.
“Russians are using 300 planes on the territory of Ukraine. We need at least 120, 130 planes to resist in the sky,” Zelenskiy said.
Ukraine is waiting for the delivery of F-16 fighter jets. Zelenskiy said that if countries could not supply the planes straight away, they could still fly them from neighbouring Nato states and shoot down Russian missiles.
The Ukrainian president said Kyiv was negotiating with international partners to use their weapons to strike Russian military hardware at the border and further inside Russian territory. “So far, there is nothing positive,” he said. Zelenskiy reiterated that he had not broken agreements with allies not to use their weapons inside Russia. “We can’t put the whole volume of weapons at risk.”
Ukraine’s allies should lift such restrictions, the Lithuanian foreign minister, Gabrielius Landsbergis, said.
“From the beginning we have made the mistake of limiting the Ukrainians because it could be seen as an escalation,” he said, adding that Ukraine’s supporters were “dominated by fear of Russia … the Ukrainians must be allowed to use the equipment provided to them so that they can achieve strategic objectives. They must be able to strike Russian territory, supply lines, and military units preparing to attack Ukraine. Only one side has rules imposed on it,” he said. “We must abandon these rules that we created.'
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
To think of all the hollow, cynical and naive talk of peace in a world at ease with capitalism and liberal democracy at the end of the Cold War...
'Putin said the US was stoking tensions and had transferred Typhon missile systems to Denmark and the Philippines, and compared the US plans to the Nato decision to deploy Pershing II launchers in western Europe in 1979.
The Soviet leadership, including the general secretary, Yuri Andropov, feared Pershing II deployments were part of an elaborate US-led plan to decapitate the Soviet Union by taking out its political and military leadership.
“This situation is reminiscent of the events of the cold war related to the deployment of American medium-range Pershing missiles in Europe,” Putin said.
The Russian president repeated an earlier warning that Moscow could resume production of intermediate and shorter range nuclear-capable missiles and then consider where to deploy them if the US brought similar missiles to Europe and Asia.'
www.theguardian.com
'Putin said the US was stoking tensions and had transferred Typhon missile systems to Denmark and the Philippines, and compared the US plans to the Nato decision to deploy Pershing II launchers in western Europe in 1979.
The Soviet leadership, including the general secretary, Yuri Andropov, feared Pershing II deployments were part of an elaborate US-led plan to decapitate the Soviet Union by taking out its political and military leadership.
“This situation is reminiscent of the events of the cold war related to the deployment of American medium-range Pershing missiles in Europe,” Putin said.
The Russian president repeated an earlier warning that Moscow could resume production of intermediate and shorter range nuclear-capable missiles and then consider where to deploy them if the US brought similar missiles to Europe and Asia.'
Putin warns US against deploying long-range missiles in Germany
Russian leader says Washington risks triggering cold war-style missile crisis and promises to respond in kind
Aladdin
Well-Known Member
Russia threatens 'atomic tsunami' giving nuclear target 'three days' to 'swim'
Vladimir Putin has been urged to launch a four-megaton nuclear strike on the UK - in the form of a man-made tsunami - if Britain and the West continue to arm Ukraine
King Biscuit Time
Well-Known Member
That's an old threat/story. Even though the date on the article is recent it gives the PM as Boris Johnson.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Wasn’t this about the time when all Putin had was shovels and thermo nuclear weapons?Russia threatens 'atomic tsunami' giving nuclear target 'three days' to 'swim'
Vladimir Putin has been urged to launch a four-megaton nuclear strike on the UK - in the form of a man-made tsunami - if Britain and the West continue to arm Ukrainewww.irishstar.com
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
and having to use chips from refrigerators and dishwashers
Aladdin
Well-Known Member
Ah OK.
I did think it was a bit odd mentioning Boris.
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
What a time to be alive...
www.theguardian.com
'Ukrainian insiders have also talked about using the threat of long-range missiles against Russia to try to force an end to the war, through a “demonstration strike” that would make clear to the Kremlin that it is possible to threaten the heartlands around Moscow. It is not obvious if Moscow would react so benignly, however, which may be why Burns, starkly, said the west should not be intimidated by Russian threats of nuclear escalation, raising the possibility that Putin may do just that.
Zelenskiy argued at a meeting of western defence ministers in Germany last week that being able to strike into its enemy’s territory would help ensure “Russia is motivated to seek peace”. But the calibration has to be careful. Time may be short for Ukraine, given that a US election looms in less than two months, and on Tuesday, one of the candidates, Donald Trump, would not say if he wanted Ukraine to win.
Missile diplomacy may not have been so significant since the time of the cold war.'
West’s missile go-ahead to Ukraine would hold no shortage of risks
Any decision to let Kyiv fire western missiles at Russia could have dramatic impact and must be carefully calibrated
'Ukrainian insiders have also talked about using the threat of long-range missiles against Russia to try to force an end to the war, through a “demonstration strike” that would make clear to the Kremlin that it is possible to threaten the heartlands around Moscow. It is not obvious if Moscow would react so benignly, however, which may be why Burns, starkly, said the west should not be intimidated by Russian threats of nuclear escalation, raising the possibility that Putin may do just that.
Zelenskiy argued at a meeting of western defence ministers in Germany last week that being able to strike into its enemy’s territory would help ensure “Russia is motivated to seek peace”. But the calibration has to be careful. Time may be short for Ukraine, given that a US election looms in less than two months, and on Tuesday, one of the candidates, Donald Trump, would not say if he wanted Ukraine to win.
Missile diplomacy may not have been so significant since the time of the cold war.'
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
Alarm in UK and US over possible Iran-Russia nuclear deal
US president Joe Biden and British PM Keir Starmer fear secret arms link-up amid talks in Washington over Ukraine
'Russia and Iran, though not historically allies, have become increasingly united in their opposition to the west, part of a wider “axis of upheaval” that also includes to varying degrees China and North Korea, reflecting a return to an era of state competition reminiscent of the cold war.'
Since when has state competition been regarded as 'reminiscent of the cold war?' It seems to be more reminiscent of the history of the preceding decades and centuries, to which the end of the cold war returned us all, contrary to the expectations of all those who assumed it signalled a convergance on the ideals of the neo-liberals/neocons who were unfortuntely in the ascendency when Communist governments decided to throw in the towel. Those whose delusions led directly to the current war in Ukraine. Political and historical illiteracy (maybe deliberately pushed by contemporary, poltically naive liberals on both left and right) is rife in today's world.
'Britain and the US have raised fears that Russia has shared nuclear secrets with Iran in return for Tehran supplying Moscow with ballistic missiles to bomb Ukraine.
During their summit in Washington DC on Friday, Keir Starmer and US president Joe Biden acknowledged that the two countries were tightening military cooperation at a time when Iran is in the process of enriching enough uranium to complete its long-held goal to build a nuclear bomb.
British sources indicated that concerns were aired about Iran’s trade for nuclear technology, part of a deepening alliance between Tehran and Moscow.'
