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What about general admin work? Have you considered a basic computing course covering such things as Excel or Powerpoint? especially if you get some practice coding basic macro's It's amazing how many people struggle with such things. Or alternatively didn't you use to work in a trade union (and my wife says I never pay attention) perhaps you could push your soft skills like being able to mediate between people and get them talking to each other rather than mere practical ones like typing.
yes, I have worked for trade unions for decades - that is my problem.
I don't need a computing course - I can already use Excel and PowerPoint, and Access and Word :)

And I can code basic macros.

I have high level admin skills, but my cv will show me as having worked for trade unions since 1989, and therein lies the problem, I believe.

It would be fine, if it was like it used to be when applying for temping jobs...
 
My own experience, and it may be different in different parts of the country, is that these sort of jobs are massively oversubscribed, even at minimum wage.

I'm not saying don't do it. I am saying be realistic about the odds. The qualifications like CLAIT, EDCL etc that I went to college to get, well most people under 30 have that level of computer skills anyway.

Unless you've got extra skills like second languages expect a lot of competition even for NMW work.
Exactly. And, if I apply for these roles, even as a temp, at the age of 60 after more than 30 years as a trade union official, I can't see myself being top of their lists :)
 
Seriously thinking about upping sticks, leaving my home town and heading for the beautiful south for a fresh start.

It's probably just a passing thought, hopefully I'll feel differently in the morning...

God I so know that feeling, except I wanna leave the UK...not thatll answer all my problems.
Is it because you think there are more work opportunities down south?

Without sounding bad, its good to know I'm not the only one feeling a bit shit!
 
Offered an interview for one, quickly followed by an offer of an interview for another :thumbs:




...on the same day :facepalm:

Already said I'll attend the firsr. Hmmm. What chance the second will rearrange for me?

They've rearranged. Which is great. Otoh, I hate interviews and tend to do really badly at them, and have now got two - possibly full dayers - to "look forward" to.
 
Not about me...... my partner is driving me mad with her obsession with changing job instantly.

I understand she doesn't like where she is because she says her managers are scum and she doesn't like being on call (plus the commute, which she says is too expensive), but it pays well for what she does (somehow she still manages to spend all of her money though). In the last 3/4 months she's gone from wanting to be a policewoman, to primary school teacher, and now into IT.

She's been looking for IT jobs for a grand sum of 2-3 weeks (I've sent her CV off to two freinds, and a recruitment company interviewed her for a project management job despite having almost no background in IT), and is now "desperate" considering taking an internship for a year at the same office she currently works at for a £10,000+ pay drop, no guarantee of a job after the year internship, working for the same company she absolutely hates.

I understand she wants to get experience...... But 2-3 weeks of job hunting and then taking the first, probably shit thing you come across seems counter intuitive to me..... I'm not being mad here am I?
 
Interview for me at ten. Agonizing about whether to wear a tie. Very nervous even though it's only a temp role til September.
too late to help you now but wear a tie, It might not count against you if you don't look smart but it will definitely not count against if you do.
 
too late to help you now but wear a tie, It might not count against you if you don't look smart but it will definitely not count against if you do.
I actually went no tie in the end, because there is a certain amount of archive/warehouse involved as well as pure PC work.

Anyway, despite or because of that I got it, so it does give me some space until September.
 
I got my offer letter for the job today. The salary is way below what I'm on now, which isn't loads tbf... but getting a job over here is really tough even for people who have grown up here or are fluent. The hope is it'll get me back on track in my career (I'm doing something unrelated atm), develop some more skills and I'll get a better job in a year or so.
 
too late to help you now but wear a tie, It might not count against you if you don't look smart but it will definitely not count against if you do.
I was talking to someone the other day who said that it DID count against people to wear a tie, because the organisation had specified that they wanted to see people in casual wear. It was seen as not having read the brief, if the men wore a tie.

I think that is a bit mean, because I assume some guys are just more comfortable if they dress smartly for an interview, and able to perform better.
 
I was talking to someone the other day who said that it DID count against people to wear a tie, because the organisation had specified that they wanted to see people in casual wear. It was seen as not having read the brief, if the men wore a tie.

I think that is a bit mean, because I assume some guys are just more comfortable if they dress smartly for an interview, and able to perform better.

dunno really.

if they specifically give a dress code for the interview, then you know where you stand, and would be inclined to agree that it shows you haven't read the brief.

but think most people would prefer to feel they are in the right sort of place, whatever that is.

i guess in a 'creative' sort of role, interviewers might be put off by someone who looked very conventional.

i went for an interview a few years back (and didn't get) for an admin sort of thing at a college, and dressed 'business' - the interviewers were more than a little bit casual. not sure if that counted against me, or what.
 
I was talking to someone the other day who said that it DID count against people to wear a tie, because the organisation had specified that they wanted to see people in casual wear. It was seen as not having read the brief, if the men wore a tie.

I think that is a bit mean, because I assume some guys are just more comfortable if they dress smartly for an interview, and able to perform better.
That's fair enough anyone who goes to an interview without reading the brief deserves what they get, I know of one outfit that would chuck application forms in the bin that weren't written in block capitals in black not because they cared but because they put that in the brief to check whether people were reading it.
 
Interview for me at ten. Agonizing about whether to wear a tie. Very nervous even though it's only a temp role til September.

Congrats! You cant go wrong with wearing a tie can you? How did it go anyway?
In case your still interested, the Hermes sign up was very easy, training next week and then straight in doing rounds...

Edit: I see it...congrats again. Its great how things can change round so quickly. Did the role come out of the blue?
 
Not about me...... my partner is driving me mad with her obsession with changing job instantly.

I understand she doesn't like where she is because she says her managers are scum and she doesn't like being on call (plus the commute, which she says is too expensive), but it pays well for what she does (somehow she still manages to spend all of her money though). In the last 3/4 months she's gone from wanting to be a policewoman, to primary school teacher, and now into IT.

She's been looking for IT jobs for a grand sum of 2-3 weeks (I've sent her CV off to two freinds, and a recruitment company interviewed her for a project management job despite having almost no background in IT), and is now "desperate" considering taking an internship for a year at the same office she currently works at for a £10,000+ pay drop, no guarantee of a job after the year internship, working for the same company she absolutely hates.

I understand she wants to get experience...... But 2-3 weeks of job hunting and then taking the first, probably shit thing you come across seems counter intuitive to me..... I'm not being mad here am I?

Your not being mad, but desperation can make some do crazy things. So her rationale for taking an internship at the same place she hates is???
 
Congrats! You cant go wrong with wearing a tie can you? How did it go anyway?
In case your still interested, the Hermes sign up was very easy, training next week and then straight in doing rounds...

Edit: I see it...congrats again. Its great how things can change round so quickly. Did the role come out of the blue?
From an agency I'd worked for before. Either agency or the client messed me about a bit. I'm not sure which it was.

First it was yes, then the interview was inexplicably cancelled and then suddenly it was back on again. I get the impression their first choice let them down, but I'll take the win either way.

What concerns me is, if this is how hard it is to get work in the admin field when the economy is supposedly good, what is it going to be like come the next recession?

And the next recession will come, sooner or later.
 
Your not being mad, but desperation can make some do crazy things. So her rationale for taking an internship at the same place she hates is???
Its a good introduction for her to work in IT.

But.... she's never worked in IT before so she doesn't even know if she'd like it. The pay is a 10k pay cut, but still in the same tax bracket, and still spending £2.5k a year communiting.
 
I feel really conflicted about this job offer. It's a pay cut of about a third, i would still be able to get by because I've been saving that amount each month to pay off my overdraft (I'll still be able to pay off a bit towards it each month just not as much).

The main worry is that the person before me got fired during their probation. I asked about it in my initial interview and got some fluff about the team expanding blah blah but it didn't ring true for various reasons. I had a call with them this morning and asked about it more directly. And was told the person before didn't make it through probation because of poor performance. I asked you did this is something the company has to deal with often and was reassured that it's not that common with them.
I know that this happens from time to time but I would basically be giving up a job with a higher salary and better benefits for somewhere totally unknown that could very easily fuck me off as I'd be going through probation.

I feel hesitant. Anyone got any advice for me?
 
Its a good introduction for her to work in IT.

But.... she's never worked in IT before so she doesn't even know if she'd like it. The pay is a 10k pay cut, but still in the same tax bracket, and still spending £2.5k a year communiting.
What particular IT will she be learning to do in this role? Some IT skills are very portable and in very high demand, some aren't
 
What particular IT will she be learning to do in this role? Some IT skills are very portable and in very high demand, some aren't
Not sure entirely....

I've got a feeling there might be a lot of resetting passwords.

It seems she's thought better of it now.
 
Not sure entirely....

I've got a feeling there might be a lot of resetting passwords.

It seems she's thought better of it now.
basic helpdesk stuff then so not in much demand I'm afraid, it's also the sort of work that tends to get sent abroad
 
Found a perfect-ush job...have come to the library to crack on with an application. Now see that the essential criteria for the job is to drive and have use of a car. Apart from that the job was what I am looking for and more than capable of doing.

/Cries.

:(
 
Urgh.

Two consecutive days of interviews.

One half-day. One full-day. Am knackered.

Been offered the first, but currently "negotiating" after a pretty lowball offer.

Am awaiting news on the second.

Fuck I hate this.

Though it's still better than endless rejections.
 
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