Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
My time to shine.
The job hunting support thread
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existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Make a point of telling anyone who'll listen how far beneath you this job is, how ambitious you are, and how much better you could do your boss's job than they can.
Annoying is definitely the way to go.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
'Warehouse apprentice' http://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/The-Source-Skills-Academy/jobs/Warehouse-Apprentice-1936f10d819e8852
Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ.
Hellsbells
World's best procrastinator
I want to move out of London but the job market outside of London is really depressing me.
What job sites do people use? Are there any good, reliable ones out there?
What job sites do people use? Are there any good, reliable ones out there?
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Apprentice teaching assistant job, obviously aimed at Roma. What a fucked up country we have become.
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
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Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I use:
www.reed.co.uk
www.totaljobs.com
www.Monster.co.uk
Which are quite good I think.
Then I also sometimes use the following 3 which are not too bad.
www.jobserve.com
www.jobsearch.co.uk
www.JobSite.co.uk
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Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
and is "being a cunt" listed in the "essential" requirements, or merely the "desirable" ones?
Wolveryeti
Detty Pig
Do it really slowly/inaccurately, and claim that it's your borderline dyslexia playing up.
purenarcotic
Conveniently Pocket Sized
*joins thread*
I finish my training soon so need to find a job. Not only is there naff all out there, but all the stuff I'd really like to do (mainly advoacy type stuff) is all being slashed so there's nothing or it's voluntary only. At a central meeting for my current placement someone from a really cool charity came to talk who does exactly the sort of work I'd like to do. You get free legal training which counts as some sort of qualification but it's all voluntary, nothing paid.
This is so fucking depressing.
I finish my training soon so need to find a job. Not only is there naff all out there, but all the stuff I'd really like to do (mainly advoacy type stuff) is all being slashed so there's nothing or it's voluntary only. At a central meeting for my current placement someone from a really cool charity came to talk who does exactly the sort of work I'd like to do. You get free legal training which counts as some sort of qualification but it's all voluntary, nothing paid.
This is so fucking depressing.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Equally depressing, I suspect, as already working in a field where they appear to be trying very hard to move in that direction. Pretty soon, the only paid jobs will be with oligarchies and plutocrats - anyone who wants to work for the public good had better get themselves some private means first.*joins thread*
I finish my training soon so need to find a job. Not only is there naff all out there, but all the stuff I'd really like to do (mainly advoacy type stuff) is all being slashed so there's nothing or it's voluntary only. At a central meeting for my current placement someone from a really cool charity came to talk who does exactly the sort of work I'd like to do. You get free legal training which counts as some sort of qualification but it's all voluntary, nothing paid.
This is so fucking depressing.
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
Well, I've got an interview tomorrow, for a job which pays substantially less than the one I left 6 months ago, and is a lot less interesting.
I'm having a bad week anyway, and am not in the mood for selling myself.
But there's probably no point in fretting since no-one wants me anyway.
I'm having a bad week anyway, and am not in the mood for selling myself.
But there's probably no point in fretting since no-one wants me anyway.
Cloo
Banana for scale
Guineveretoo - couldn't read and run. Nothing to offer but cuddly brackets, tho. (((Guin))) x
juice_terry
Here is a man who would not take it anymore.
I'm yet to find anything after 8 months.. I guess I'm unemployable right now 
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
at interview at the rest of it.be prepared for "why are you taking a step down?" / "aren't you only really taking this job as a stop-gap until you get something better?" type questions (just how directly these get put varies)
the obvious answer of "because there's sod all out there and i need the fucking money you great pillock" is possibly best avoided
hope it goes well
(((Guineveretoo )))
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
Yeah, I have been battling with the answer to the question why did I apply for this job, which will be looking for that answer, I suppose.
I am also feeling pretty down about life generally, and my health, and have not been sleeping, and, to cap it all, I am also feeling somewhat out of date, and need to revise, because there is a test before the interview, and I really can't motivate myself to do it!
I had to do a psychometric assessment already and, to be honest, my initial thought was to question whether I really want to work for someone who a) pays so little compared to the market and b) still thinks online psychometric assessments are an appropriate and accurate way of appointing someone.
Oh well.
I am going to go and cook myself a nice meal soon, in the hope that that will go some way towards changing my negative mindset!
I am also feeling pretty down about life generally, and my health, and have not been sleeping, and, to cap it all, I am also feeling somewhat out of date, and need to revise, because there is a test before the interview, and I really can't motivate myself to do it!
I had to do a psychometric assessment already and, to be honest, my initial thought was to question whether I really want to work for someone who a) pays so little compared to the market and b) still thinks online psychometric assessments are an appropriate and accurate way of appointing someone.
Oh well.
I am going to go and cook myself a nice meal soon, in the hope that that will go some way towards changing my negative mindset!
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I have to make a small comment. I recognise "the public good" is a concept many may hold dear and many may feel only applies to sections of the public sector. I work in the private sector, my work ensures a number of others have continued employment. Over one 10 year period my work pretty much ensured the continued employment of about thirty people.
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Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
the interview involving the presentation seemed to go quite well, but not heard anything yet. the two interviewers were (potential) line manager and department manager rather than HR types, which is always a good start, and they were struggling to fit their notes from my answers in the forms they had.
the one yesterday has led to a provisional job offer (subject to references and medical clearance) so bearing in mind some of my past crappy health, it depends what questions they ask...
the one yesterday has led to a provisional job offer (subject to references and medical clearance) so bearing in mind some of my past crappy health, it depends what questions they ask...
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
Well done! Hopefully, the provisional offer will materialise. Be aware that employers are no longer allowed to ask about your medical history unless it is to consider reasonable adjustments or because there are particular requirements relating to the job. Although not all employers seem to have grasped this!
So, if they send you a standard pre-employment health questionnaire, ask them what it is for. You could even say that you had understood that the 2010 Equality Act prohibited the use of such forms, and send it back to them to sort out what they are asking and why. At the very least, this should focus their minds, so that they only ask relevant questions.
So, if they send you a standard pre-employment health questionnaire, ask them what it is for. You could even say that you had understood that the 2010 Equality Act prohibited the use of such forms, and send it back to them to sort out what they are asking and why. At the very least, this should focus their minds, so that they only ask relevant questions.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
Thanks
I'm aware they aren't supposed to ask health questions before making an offer, and they haven't.
This is an appointment for 'a medical' - I have no idea whether this will be doctor, nurse or what, and if so what it's going to involve.
I'm not sure I want to seem to be putting up too much of a defence in advance, as this might arouse suspicion...
Looby
Well-Known Member
These days, yes. They can afford to be really picky.
I was once interviewed 3 times for a job as the director/manager couldn't agree. Fuckers.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Sure. That wasn't meant to be a controversial statement. What I meant was that if you are happy to do a job that makes someone money, you're in a far better position than if you want to do a job that doesn't have £££ in it for someone, leaving aside any convoluted stretched-definition arguments about what might constitute a "public good".
Counselling children, for example, is never, on the terms a society like ours operates by, going to turn a profit. Ergo, nobody really wants to pay for it, even if there are all kinds of long-term, incidental, and unquantifiable benefits to it. Which means service provision is always going to fall short, and the people doing the job are never likely to earn a decent wage.
The one good thing that might come out of this disturbingly awful - and worsening - situation I'm in is that it might give the kick up the arse I need to abandon the kids and go and work for plutocrats again. Every man has his price, and I just found mine. It works out at somewhere between £25k and £40k a year, though I am happy to be bought for more. And not working for a bunch of lowbrow intellectually lukewarm cunts will count for a lot, too. Oh, the damage I could do right now with a rage on and a machete...
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I wasn't really wanting to start an argument either, just to mention what I do also benefits others.
Yes, it is true what you say, some roles despite being beneficial, just don't get paid, sometimes at all. Consider someone who does child care professionally. They look after and help in the bringing up of children. They do get paid but are never going to earn massive salaries. Then what about people who look after and bring up their own children, a vital role in society producing the next generation etc - no one pays them anything at all!
The one good thing that might come out of this disturbingly awful - and worsening - situation I'm in is that it might give the kick up the arse I need to abandon the kids and go and work for plutocrats again. Every man has his price, and I just found mine. It works out at somewhere between £25k and £40k a year, though I am happy to be bought for more. And not working for a bunch of lowbrow intellectually lukewarm cunts will count for a lot, too. Oh, the damage I could do right now with a rage on and a machete...
We all have to be able to pay the bills!
Ideal is finding something we love that also pays well, but I wonder what proportion of the workforce have managed to find that utopia, I bet it is quite a small percentage.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I think you've rather comprehensively missed my point. No matter, let's just let it go.
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