The Islamic state

[coley]

Seems like a compromise on the peshmega going to kobane has been reached - they're coming but they're syrian rather than iraqi kurds, but they were trained in iraqi kurdistan though. So 50/50 for each side there i think. Score draw on the coupon.

Any idea on how long before they are deployed?

 

[butchersapron]

Any idea on how long before they are deployed?

Supposed to be there in 24hrs.

 

[coley]

Supposed to be there in 24hrs.

Ta.

 

[butchersapron]

Ta.

Just had a thought that that publicly out there 24hrs might be a tactical 24hrs - it might be a lot quicker but they want the beardies to think different.

 

[butchersapron]

Beardies trying to get bombs going off in Karbala - another one today -20+ dead. This is show the last civil war started - ISIS playing the same hand their fathers in AQ in Iraq played. Really really dangerous stuff that could matter more than the ongoing battles.

 

[butchersapron]

More on the pesh/YPG stuff from the excellent Jenan Moussa (me=be i guess)

Jenan Moussa
@jenanmoussa
'Any troops entering #Kobane to help us with fight against ISIS has to me under YPG command' senior spokesman Idris Nassan tells me.

 

[Patteran]

I was going to ask a possibly stupid question - where did the US get the Soviet-type gear/Kalashnikov ammo that they appear to have air-dropped on Kobane? And then I saw a possible answer on twitter, and realised it wasn't an especially stupid question. Anyway, the answer, apparently, is Albania.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...1ed41c-5801-11e4-b812-38518ae74c67_story.html

 

[kebabking]

quite a few of the new NATO and ex-WARPAC members still use the AK's etc.. theres no shortage of the stuff floating about well within the US's easy grasp.

 

[teqniq]

@jenanmoussa: Delay -> @heminhawrami Peshmerga 2 #Kobanê needs few more days. Pres @masoud_barzani order ready. Need more preprtions. 2nd weapn, ammo soon

 

[kebabking]

its interesting that the UK Government is refusing to say which country the RAF MQ-9 Reaper UCAV's will be based in, citing 'regional sensitivities'..

Israel is too sensitive and too far, Iraq isn't really sensitive, Cyprus isn't sensitive.. Turkey? Jordan?

 

[butchersapron]

YPG today:

 

[butchersapron]

List of anti-beardie rebels groups and details as things stand now (key)- i have a longer/larger one somewhere, can't find it right now. Will find.

 

[teqniq]

Islamic State advances against Yazidis on Iraq's Sinjar mountain

Islamic State militants advanced on Iraq's Sinjar mountain on Tuesday, tightening a siege of thousands of stranded Yazidis, who called on the United States and its allies to act to avert more bloodshed....

There was a screenshot on Twitter earlier of one or two of IS's cohorts gloating over soon having more slaves to sell. Redeeming features, none.

 

[The39thStep]

What we need is a YPG of the left

 

[DotCommunist]

third time you've made that joke

 

[butchersapron]

Here's a report on shia murderers who are giving BEARDIES what they want.

 

[teqniq]

Ah yes the Shia militias. Read this story earlier, they don't have too many redeeming features either.

 

[DrRingDing]

What we need is a YPG of the left

What we need is to you to pack your satchel and make your cheery way to Kobane.

 

[butchersapron]

What we need is to you to pack your satchel and make your cheery way to Kobane.

You've done the revolutionary tourism at least three times. Any tips? On how to be a maoist? To support beardie head choppers? Any news about anything?

 

[DrRingDing]

You've done the revolutionary tourism at least three times. Any tips?

Go do it.

You're going to be physically past it soon.

Still, there's always saying political things on the internet.

 

[butchersapron]

Been reports of chemical attacks all night. Just reporting them.

 

[butchersapron]

Go do it.

You're going to be physically past it soon.

Still, there's always saying political things on the internet.

Decided who you're supporting now?

 

[coley]

Here's a report on shia murderers who are giving BEARDIES what they want.

Christ, that's a depressing read, if I was a Sunni I would be looking for the first IS recruiting Sgt I could find, but it suits many on both sides to keep the kettle boiling, pity the poor buggers in the mangle.

 

[The39thStep]

third time you've made that joke

Is it?

 

[TomUS]

Islamic State advances against Yazidis on Iraq's Sinjar mountain
There was a screenshot on Twitter earlier of one or two of IS's cohorts gloating over soon having more slaves to sell. Redeeming features, none.

The airstrike coalition still seems stretched thin. Another carrier (preferably non-US) needed in the E. Med launching planes & drones.

 

[kebabking]

The airstrike coalition still seems stretched thin. Another carrier (preferably non-US) needed in the E. Med launching planes & drones.

no, whats needed is aircraft based locally so they can carry more bombs than fuel, and spend more time over the target than getting there.

its a four hour round trip, with two tankings to get a single F/A-18 carrying just two 500lb bombs up to Mt Sinjar from the Gulf or UAE. if those aircraft were based in southern Turkey, or north east Jordan, or Western Iran, or central Iraq (assuming you could have a secure base..), they'd not only be carrying more bombs when they got to the target, but once they had dropped them it would take much less time for them to return to base and generate another sortie.

flying a fighter for 6 hours (two there, two on target, two back, with multiple tankings) is utterly exhausting - its a one sortie per 24 hour period job - flying the same mission from half an hour away is something your aircrew could do twice, and possibly three times in the same period.

 

[TomUS]

no, whats needed is aircraft based locally so they can carry more bombs than fuel, and spend more time over the target than getting there.

its a four hour round trip, with two tankings to get a single F/A-18 carrying just two 500lb bombs up to Mt Sinjar from the Gulf or UAE. if those aircraft were based in southern Turkey, or north east Jordan, or Western Iran, or central Iraq (assuming you could have a secure base..), they'd not only be carrying more bombs when they got to the target, but once they had dropped them it would take much less time for them to return to base and generate another sortie.

flying a fighter for 6 hours (two there, two on target, two back, with multiple tankings) is utterly exhausting - its a one sortie per 24 hour period job - flying the same mission from half an hour away is something your aircrew could do twice, and possibly three times in the same period.

Yes, Turkey would be ideal but they won't allow it. And I don't think Iraq would allow an American air base there either. Jordon would be a good spot, but don't think they'd allow it either. So, next best place I can see is the E. Med.

 

[Dogsauce]

They've got some of those tankbuster A10s on the way apparently, which might be well suited for the kind of stuff they're having to do at the moment, taking out smaller, mobile targets. Not sure where they'd fly them from, I'm guessing the range is shorter than the fast jet stuff.

 

[TomUS]

They've got some of those tankbuster A10s on the way apparently, which might be well suited for the kind of stuff they're having to do at the moment, taking out smaller, mobile targets. Not sure where they'd fly them from, I'm guessing the range is shorter than the fast jet stuff.

The A10s are extremely effective at close air support. The Taliban are supposed to be scared shitless of them. But where to fly them from.

 

[butchersapron]

ISIS advance up mt sinjar continuing - yazidi fighters trapped in the shrine thing up the top. Don't know where peshmerga gone. Read a piece last week that said the yazidi know to clear off when the peshmerga go - seems that now a) they went already and the yazidi didn't go b) the yazidi now seem surrounded.