The Islamic state

[butchersapron]

This says 1000 FSA were allowed into kobane from turkey on 6th october - this was backed up by FSA commanders on ground two weeks back, they said they had to send 2/3 back over border due to lack of supplies (i can't find that one right now but will do at half time) but couldn't be double checked.

 

[Red Storm]

So are the YPG allying with the FSA against Assad now too?

 

[butchersapron]

So are the YPG allying with the FSA against Assad now too?

Depends depends - they put out a note of their joint co-operation over all of syria - rather than just in the kobane battle earlier. That means working with turkey or at least not making a fuss of others direct work with it.

 

[teqniq]

HaraldDoornbos: Dear ppl, many seem 2think border is open & peshmerga's streaming into #Kobane. NOPE. Border closed, arrival of Peshamerga's still days away.

 

[teqniq]

Meanwhile in Iraq

LovedayM: Fighter I spoke to at Sinjar shrine screaming down the phone they need airstrikes. Said he had to go when IS Humvees began to close in #Iraq

 

[teqniq]

MemlikPasha: Unprecedented wave of multiple #IS VBIEDs in past 24h, from Kobani to Mosul dam, Qarah Tappah, Bayji and Karbala'.

MemlikPasha: An #IS truck SVBIED at a Peshmerga checkpoint on the Mosul dam security perimeter killed Peshmerga Brig. Gen. Safar Amedi.

 

[butchersapron]

Ta for the above teqniq. Things are going to change now.

Juma Al Qassim @freedomvoice199
#Turkey Huge explosion in Istanbul's Halkalı customs in the storage facilities of a company closely associated with Syrian opposition

 

[butchersapron]

God article - but you were told - peoples screamed it at you - even divs on here told you about it ffs

Syria tribal revolt against Islamic State ignored, fueling resentment

The cost of turning against the Islamic State was made brutally apparent in the streets of a dusty backwater town in eastern Syria in early August. Over a three-day period, vengeful fighters shelled, beheaded, crucified and shot hundreds of members of the Shaitat tribe after they dared to rise up against the extremists.

By the time the killing stopped, 700 people were dead, activists and survivors say, making this the bloodiest single atrocity committed by the Islamic State in Syria since it declared its existence 18 months ago.

The little-publicized story of this failed tribal revolt in Abu Hamam, in Syria’s eastern Deir al-Zour province, illuminates the challenges that will confront efforts to persuade those living under Islamic State rule — in Iraq as well as Syria — to join the fight against the jihadist group, something U.S. officials say is essential if the campaign against the militants is to succeed.

There is a reason it's little told - and it starts with you Liz.

 

[agricola]

Ta for the above teqniq. Things are going to change now.

Juma Al Qassim @freedomvoice199
#Turkey Huge explosion in Istanbul's Halkalı customs in the storage facilities of a company closely associated with Syrian opposition

It certainly looks well alight.

 

[FNG]

How many kurdish journalists did the Turkish state kill in the 90s one way or another (encouraging internal feuds/criminals/fascists)? Ex mayor of surac (town on turkish side of border with kobane) and kid shot yesterday.

This might be of interest to you http://issuu.com/rsf_webmaster/docs/rsf_report_turkey_2011_en/1?e=0 indepth information on how the turkish state criminalises journalists, every editor of the Kurdish paper Azadiya Welat has been sentenced to lengthy sentences upheld on appeal.

Over 5000 journalists prosecuted of all political hues relating to the Ergenekon case alone, with scores more being held in prison without charge

Like the 3 German photographers that were held without charge and subsequently released for photographing the recent Kurdish protests in Diyarbakir

 

[butchersapron]

Ta.

 

[coley]

Anybody got anything more on this vvv?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29698930

 

[butchersapron]

Anybody got anything more on this vvv?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29698930

Lots of ISIS vbieds - tried to get arond NE. Freash meat reinforciments from their police brigades from other places (telling in itself). Ongoing. May be related to recent air-drops and need to get moving before they become effective and other fighters maybe come.

Also, one of the airdrops went astray and was destroyed by airstrike - why don't they just have something in it that could be remotely blown up if this happens - turn it into a weapon?

 

[Pickman's model]

Lots of ISIS vbieds - tried to get arond NE. Freash meat reinforciments from their police brigades from other places (telling in itself). Ongoing. May be related to recent air-drops and need to get moving before they become effective and other fighters maybe come.

Also, one of the airdrops went astray and was destroyed by airstrike - why don't they just have something in it that could be remotely blown up if this happens - turn it into a weapon?

too sensible

 

[butchersapron]

Three more bombs in Baghdad this morning. This is coming up:

But most likely, ISIL is simply readying for its annual killing spree against Shia pilgrims during the Ashura and Arbaeen religious festivals. In the week before Ashura begins on Nov. 3, Baghdad will swell with millions of pilgrims making their way to Karbala, just southwest of the capital. Many of these pilgrims make the 50-mile walk from Baghdad to Karbala, which passes within seven miles of Jurf as-Sakr, a heavily-contested ISIL stronghold to the south of Baghdad. We can expect mortar attacks, car bombings and suicide-vest detonations inside the crowds.

This is the real meaning of ISIL being at the gates of Baghdad – that the movement is poised perilously close to key religious and transportation hubs, and may be intent on mounting sectarian outrages at the most sensitive moment of the year for the Shia. The Iraqi security forces view Ashura and Arbaeen as an annual trial – and in recent years they have achieved significant success in limiting the mayhem caused by ISIL and its forerunners.

 

[DownwardDog]

why don't they just have something in it that could be remotely blown up if this happens - turn it into a weapon?

Because this is the real world not a Michael Bay film. Putting a remote control explosive in every pallet would make the logisitics of the air drops massively more complicated and dangerous. It's easier and simpler just to plink the ones that go astray.

 

[TomUS]

Also, one of the airdrops went astray and was destroyed by airstrike - why don't they just have something in it that could be remotely blown up if this happens - turn it into a weapon?

The US military could quickly build a short landing strip in Kobane for cargo planes & use it like in Khe Sanh (hopefully with different results). The cargo planes touched down for just a few seconds, slid out loads of supply palates & flew off without ever landing. They'd be exposed to ISIS artillery briefly but could deliver way more stuff than with parachute drops.

 

[sunnysidedown]

The US military could quickly build a short landing strip in Kobane for cargo planes & use it like in Khe Sanh (hopefully with different results). The cargo planes touched down for just a few seconds, slid out loads of supply palates & flew off without ever landing. They'd be exposed to ISIS artillery briefly but could deliver way more stuff than with parachute drops.

only someone called TomUS could post that bloody tripe.

 

[peterkro]

The US military could quickly build a short landing strip in Kobane for cargo planes & use it like in Khe Sanh (hopefully with different results). The cargo planes touched down for just a few seconds, slid out loads of supply palates & flew off without ever landing. They'd be exposed to ISIS artillery briefly but could deliver way more stuff than with parachute drops.

They don't even need a landing strip or for the planes to touch down.But and it's a big but it puts the planes and the people on them at risk and for the yanks that ain't going to happen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_Altitude_Parachute_Extraction_System

 

[butchersapron]

Two more bagdhad car bombs - 10+ killed again.

 

[Pickman's model]

The US military could quickly build a short landing strip in Kobane for cargo planes & use it like in Khe Sanh (hopefully with different results). The cargo planes touched down for just a few seconds, slid out loads of supply palates & flew off without ever landing. They'd be exposed to ISIS artillery briefly but could deliver way more stuff than with parachute drops.

have you heard of dien bien phu?

 

[butchersapron]

First airstrikes on the ISIS shingal offensive - interesting to see if peshmerga ground forces follow this up or if it's just a delaying/desperation strike.

 

[rover07]

The US military could quickly build a short landing strip in Kobane for cargo planes & use it like in Khe Sanh (hopefully with different results). The cargo planes touched down for just a few seconds, slid out loads of supply palates & flew off without ever landing. They'd be exposed to ISIS artillery briefly but could deliver way more stuff than with parachute drops.

If they are going to build an airstrip then the US needs to have troops on the ground. A parachute drop to capture the hill and village to the South of Kobane would give them more space. The 82nd Airborne has 4000 troops ready to go anywhere in the world at 24 hrs notice. This force would be more than enough to deal with the 3000 odd ISIS fighters in the area.

 

[coley]

If they are going to build an airstrip then the US needs to have troops on the ground. A parachute drop to capture the hill and village to the South of Kobane would give them more space. The 82nd Airborne has 4000 troops ready to go anywhere in the world at 24 hrs notice. This force would be more than enough to deal with the 3000 odd ISIS fighters in the area.

Then IS would claim the " crusaders are back" which is what they have been trying to provoke for months now.

 

[rover07]

Then IS would claim the " crusaders are back" which is what they have been trying to provoke for months now.

I don't think it matters since American/British/French planes are out bombing anyway.

 

[coley]

I don't think it matters since American/British/French planes are out bombing anyway.

Perception is all, the coalition are " assisting " the regional powers, boots on the ground can be seen in a wholly different light.

 

[rover07]

Well that's what I would do if I was Commander in Chief and President of the United States of AMERICA!

I'd also drop the 101st straight into Raqqa to fight it out hand to hand in a massive bloody battle. FUCK YEAH

 

[butchersapron]

Seems like a compromise on the peshmega going to kobane has been reached - they're coming but they're syrian rather than iraqi kurds, but they were trained in iraqi kurdistan though. So 50/50 for each side there i think. Score draw on the coupon.

 

[teqniq]

rover07 I'm kinda relieved that you are not in charge then.

 

[teqniq]

HaraldDoornbos: Am now opposite #Kobane, sounds of fighting from center-northern part town. ISIS pushing, trying to take city before Peshmerga's arrive.