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purves grundy whats actually happening there? Daesh are using the rohingya issue to recruit (as they are with Palestine) but from what i can tell I can see very little evidence of much daesh activity in myanmar/burma itself.
 
Do ISIS use Palestine to recruit? I thought they condemned Palestinian nationalism and burned Palestinian flags.
 
Do ISIS use Palestine to recruit? I thought they condemned Palestinian nationalism and burned Palestinian flags.

They do yeah. But they say that only the 'islamic state' and its laws rather than palestinian nationalism can help them. They've also condemned pro Palestinian groups for being too obsessed with Israel and not about how ISIS followers are treated in the west and calling for people to fight jihad. :facepalm:

That would really help PSC to get more people to sign their petitions :facepalm:
 
They do yeah. But they say that only the 'islamic state' and its laws rather than palestinian nationalism can help them. They've also condemned pro Palestinian groups for being too obsessed with Israel and not about how ISIS followers are treated in the west and calling for people to fight jihad. :facepalm:

That would really help PSC to get more people to sign their petitions :facepalm:

Looks like the government here is also doing its best to promote the association between support for Palestinian nationhood + ISIS

http://stopwar.org.uk/news/uk-schoo...estine-accused-of-having-terrorist-like-views

SCHOOLCHILDREN in the UK who express support for Palestine face being questioned by police and referred to a counter-radicalisation programme for youngsters deemed at risk of being drawn into terrorism under new laws requiring teachers to monitor students for extremism.

One schoolboy told Al Jazeera he was accused of holding "terrorist-like" views by a police officer who questioned him for taking leaflets into school promoting a boycott of Israel.

The case reflects concerns raised about the expansion of the government's Prevent counter-extremism strategy into schools, with critics complaining that teachers are being expected to act as the "eyes and ears of the state".

Since the beginning of July, teachers have had a statutory duty to monitor and report children who they believe may be susceptible to radicalisation, although Prevent engagement officers, who are usually also police officers, have long been active in schools in areas with significant Muslim populations.

Child suspects

The boy, who was then 15 and attending school in a southern English town, said he was also told that "Free Palestine" badges that he wore were "extremist". Al Jazeera is not naming the student or the school to protect his identity.

"He asked me what I thought of the leaflet," the boy said, describing how a police officer told him he had been brought into the school to "deal with this sort of extremism".

"I explained to him my views about freedom and justice and that I supported Palestine. I said I thought Israel should have tough sanctions put upon it and he said these could be radical beliefs," the boy said.

"He said these are terrorist-like beliefs that you have. He explicitly said you cannot speak about this conflict at school with your friends," the boy said.

The leaflet, produced by Friends of al-Aqsa, an organisation campaigning for Palestinian rights, promotes the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions campaign against Israel.

The boy said he had subsequently had numerous run-ins with teachers and with the officer, who had an office in the school.

"I asked my form tutor about Prevent and whether he would act as an informant if I said anything, and he said, 'I am uncomfortable with that but that is what I have to do,'" the boy said.

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A report on counter-extremism policy published by the think-tank Claystone also cited the case of a teenager identified as requiring deradicalisation for attending a protest against an Israeli diplomat.

"We've heard of the police going into schools to talk about Prevent to teachers and saying things like, 'If a kid thinks the West is at war with Islam it might be a cause for concern.' Or if a child goes on a demonstration against the bombing of Gaza, 'Keep an eye on him,'" Alex Kenny of the National Union of Teachers told Al Jazeera.

"It is co-opting a range of non-security professionals to be the eyes and ears of the state," Bolloten told Al Jazeera

The boy, who is now 16, left school in June and intends to continue his studies elsewhere. Since then he said he had been visited at home by a Prevent officer and a case worker who identified himself as working for Channel, the programme for young people deemed vulnerable to radicalisation.

During the visit, the boy said the police officer had raised his voice when he and his mother spoke to each other in Persian, his mother's first language, telling the boy, "Stop trying to be clever with me!"

He said he had been asked about his views about ISIL and the war in Syria even though he is a Shia Muslim, something which he believes most of those who questioned him did not fully understand.

"The Channel officer was more understanding," said the boy.

"He said they were happy that I was not 'the ISIS type'. He said if I had any concerns, maybe about friends, that I could call him. And he said, 'From now on nothing further is going to happen unless you do something similar.'

"I'm not sure what he meant by that."

Why are so many cops such thick morons? It's a fucked up Stasi-like policy but you'd think that the bastards implementing it might manage to google 'shia' before harassing kids.
 
purves grundy whats actually happening there? Daesh are using the rohingya issue to recruit (as they are with Palestine) but from what i can tell I can see very little evidence of much daesh activity in myanmar/burma itself.
Not at all. I haven't heard anything to suggest that it's happening, and the areas where the Rohingya are concentrated in the far north-west are increasingly militarised and constrained - quite the opposite of the usual ISIS environment. The Rohingya did once have military units, in the 50s and 60s I believe, mainly focused on carving out territory than Sharia etc, but nothing for decades since.

What's becoming commonplace today are the anti-Islamic stunts of some Buddhist monks, who would love nothing more than a mention of ISIS in Myanmar to further their cause. They've come out as anti-NLD in recent weeks since the election date was announced and have urged people to vote for the incumbent (military-linked) party rather than ASSK. A right nasty bunch.
 
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Not at all. I haven't heard anything to suggest that it's happening, and the areas where the Rohingya are concentrated in the far north-west are increasingly militarised and constrained - quite the opposite of the usual ISIS environment. The Rohingya did once have military units, in the 50s and 60s I believe, mainly focused on carving out territory than Sharia etc, but nothing for decades since.

What's becoming commonplace today are the anti-Islamic stunts of Buddhist monks, who would love nothing more than a mention of ISIS in Myanmar to further their cause. They've come out as anti-NLD in recent weeks since the election date was announced and have urged people to vote for the incumbent (military-linked) party rather than ASSK. A right nasty bunch.

Yeah Wirathu and 969 are very scary. As is the fact their linking up with similar types in Sri Lanka and Thailand as well as Breivikites elsewhere. Total scum and theres been shamefully little condemnation of them by western buddhist organisations or anyone else for that matter.
 
YPG and FSA say they've taken Sarrin. Now freer to move towards raqqa from the west as well as the north. Battle for lake assad/dams coming up. Note here the YPG warning over jarabulus as well. They know what's going on.
 
depends who found him - i don't think you can get facebook in a CIA dungeon.

I have a feeling he may have been killed in a drone strike several months ago altho that could just be wild guesswork so take with a pinch of salt. There havent been any videos with him iirc since kenji goto was killed, they've used other jihadis like that french one.
 
Surely if he had joined one of daesh's rivals, they would be shouting about it from the rooftops. My theory (which could be bollocks) is he was killed ages ago (perhaps shortly before or after his identity became known) and daesh are just keeping his death quiet because of the damage it would do.
 
If he's still alive he may, have psychologically gone to pieces with the stuff he's seen and done. /speculation
 
probably working in a pizza hut in salford by now and keeping very schtum about his overseas adventures/ jest
If he's still alive he may, have psychologically gone to pieces with the stuff he's seen and done. /speculation
that one was way past those borders. Hacking peoples heads off with a paring knife and so on. He's gone past the mere mortal objections of 'hang on, you can't do that' and into the land of the ubermensch whose activities are not just required but a cause for celebration.
 
probably working in a pizza hut in salford by now and keeping very schtum about his overseas adventures/ jest

that one was way past those borders. Hacking peoples heads off with a paring knife and so on. He's gone past the mere mortal objections of 'hang on, you can't do that' and into the land of the ubermensch whose activities are not just required but a cause for celebration.
He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother as soon as relations with Daesh are normalised.
 
He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother as soon as relations with Daesh are normalised.

it wouldnt surprise me if there was some on Endomol etc who'd like to do that

Jihadi John sitting in the diary room complaining that people were ganging up on him lol
 
I would be surprised of JJ had been killed in scrapping.drones more likely. He a pretty valuable asset to the wankers, can't imagine them actually putting him in any position where he could get harmed . Of course it could be disinformation and he's moved onto his next posting
 
it wouldnt surprise me if there was some on Endomol etc who'd like to do that

Jihadi John sitting in the diary room complaining that people were ganging up on him lol
you wouldn't want to be in the bb house with someone whose claim to fame was killing people using common kitchen implements
 
If he's still alive he may, have psychologically gone to pieces with the stuff he's seen and done. /speculation

Unlikely in the company he's keeping . And the moderate FSA have actually done worse . They happily photographed themselves barbecuing the severed heads of their victims . Not enough to chop heads off they had to cook them as well . Hardly surprising when one of them has a penchant for eating bits of murdered prisoners . Luckily for them they kept it to the right racial profile though . They prefer to sell westerners to IS rather than chop them up themselves .

Plenty of moral support for him over there to stop him getting down in the dumps .
 
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