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This is the logical development of the old empires system - cept rather than conflict being means to an end, the product itself is conflict. IS are just a franchise of an existing corporate brand anyway.

Link came from Jadaliyya magazine, who consistently investigate prosaic, economic & class motivations for middle eastern conflict. It's telling that the Norwegian document refers to external backers as 'stakeholders', & references IS's flamboyant viciousness in terms of sharp business practice - 'The military strength and cruelty of ISIS have allowed it to renegotiate the division of revenues with local tribal leaders to keep a larger cut of the total value chain for itself.'
 
OK, I think much of it came from the delightful money laudering bulletin - I dont have access here( work copy). specificaqlly the movement of funds throughout non shariah complaint banking systems to clean it up
 
This is unsurprising unfortunately. When i saw in the MSM that Turkish planes had carried out actions in Syria against IS, I wondered how long it would take them to bomb the Kurds

 
Turkish jets strike Kurds in Iraq, Islamic State in Syria

Turkish jets struck camps belonging to Kurdish militants in northern Iraq, authorities said Saturday, the first strike since a 2013 peace deal as Ankara also bombed Islamic State positions in Syria.

The strikes in Iraq targeted the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, whose affiliates have been effective in battling the Islamic State group. The strikes further complicate the U.S.-led war against the extremists, which has relied on Kurdish forces making gains in both Iraq and Syria.

A spokesman in Iraq for the PKK, which has been fighting Turkey for autonomy since 1984 and is considered a terrorist organization by Ankara and its allies, said the strikes likely spelled the end of 2013 peace agreeement....
 
My friend in Diyarbakir just messaged me. His English isn't that good, but he says "here war" and "internet error". I can't get anything more specific!
 
given this thread's recent wider coverage of events than specifically restricted to daesh perhaps it could be retitled as we discuss the wider regional activity, e.g. pkk v daesh, ypg v daesh, turkey v pkk and daesh etc
 
My friend in Diyarbakir just messaged me. His English isn't that good, but he says "here war" and "internet error". I can't get anything more specific!

The Internet seems to be being slowed down and social media blocked, judging by what my friends in turkey are saying. Uffffff.
 
given this thread's recent wider coverage of events than specifically restricted to daesh perhaps it could be retitled as we discuss the wider regional activity, e.g. pkk v daesh, ypg v daesh, turkey v pkk and daesh etc

Or indeed turkey and daesh vs pkk

Reckon we should keep this thread to discuss Daesh related events only as people have posted links regarding daesh and terrorist related events around the world

I can start a new thread tho
 
Or indeed turkey and daesh vs pkk

Reckon we should keep this thread to discuss Daesh related events only as people have posted links regarding daesh and terrorist related events around the world

I can start a new thread tho

Let's hope we don't need a 'And next, Turkey?' thread.
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maha-hosain-aziz/how-isis-could-destroy-my_b_7810686.html

How Isis could destroy Myanmar
This is the first in a series of political risk and prediction blog posts derived from Dr Aziz's upcoming political comic book, The Global Kid (note: 100% of sales will go to global education non-profits that help youth reach their potential).
Myanmar is not currently on ISIS' target list - it does not feature in the group's five-year plan to conquer parts of Asia, Africa and Europe. And though other Islamist extremist groups like the Afghan Taliban, al-Shabaab and the Pakistani Taliban have recurrently vowed jihad over the Buddhist-led violence against Muslim minorities in the country, there hasn't been much reaction from ISIS. But very unfortunately, things may be changing. A recent report suggests ISIS may now be looking to recruit from the historically persecuted Rohingya Muslim minority, some of whom are still desperately fleeing Myanmar to live as refugees in neighboring countries.

If this recruitment happens, this could lead to the unravelling of this newly democratic country and its much-lauded reforms since 2012. Current concerns about the legitimacy of Myanmar's November 8 election (in which democracy icon Aung San Suu Kyi is still not eligible to run) will pale in comparison to the risk factor posed by ISIS. In fact, it could serve as the final nail in the coffin that leads to Muslim genocide at the hands of Buddhist extremists.
 
Launch of the Malay-Speaking Combat Unit

On 26 September 2014, the Katibah Nusantara Lid Daulah Islamiyah or the Malay Archipelago Unit
for the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria was formally launched, headquartered in Al-Shadadi, in the
Syrian province of Hasaka. This is reminiscent of the Jemaah Islamiyah’s Al-Ghuraba cell that was
based in Karachi, Pakistan which formed the hub for Malay-speaking jihadists fighting in Afghanistan.
The Katibah Nusantara is headed by an Amir, officially identified as Abu Ibrahim al-Indunisiy. Most of
the leaders appear to be Indonesians even though many Malaysians are part of it. The unit is
subdivided into various departments including those handling combat fighters, snipers, heavy
weapons, tactics and strategy, and military management.
The primary objective of the combat unit is to assist IS to achieve its jihad goal of establishing an
Islamic State in Iraq and Syria as part of the wider Caliphate. Ideology is a major factor binding these
fighters. The Malay unit facilitates communication among its members and directs their combat tasks.
It facilitates the day-to-day challenges confronting Malay-speaking jihadists as they are operating in a
largely Arabic-speaking environment and face difficulties communicating with other foreign jihadists.
The unit assists families in Indonesia and Malaysia whose husbands or children are in Iraq and Syria,
including those who have perished in combat. The unit motivates the fighters to continue their
struggle through religious classes and prevent disillusionment or retreat from the combat zone,
especially in the face of Western Coalition attacks. It also performs the task of recruiting new fighters
by providing a more conducive environment of fellowship, providing the pull factor for those intent on
supporting IS.
 
http://www.thefrontierpost.com/article/310071/pro-rohingya-protestors-wave-daesh-flags-in-takhar/

Theres also this about demos in afghanistan. Daesh are looking to recruit on the back of this issue although most of the Rohingyas aren't even observant muslims

In Takhar, some of the protesters carried Daesh flags during the demonstration to condemn the persecution of the Rohingya and shouted �We need Caliphate�.
But others among them condemned this behavior and entered a physical clash with them. Those holding Daesh flags called democracy as �un-Islamic� and civil society organizations as puppets in westerners� hands.
They went on to say: �We don�t want democracy in Afghanistan but an Islamic Caliphate.� Hikmatullah, one of the protesters, said �all issues in the region can be solved with an Islamic Caliphate system of government.� He also asked Muslims to extend support to the Islamic State.
Maulvi Hayatullah, another participant in the demonstration, said Daesh had waged resistance against a cruel regime in Iraq and were doing jihad.

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http://www.brookings.edu/research/opinions/2015/04/21-malaysia-isis-conundrum-liow

Malaysias ISIS conundrum


Four observations can be drawn from the Malaysian domestic context, which I believe speak to the conditions that exist for virulent ideologies like that of ISIS to potentially find sympathy and following:

First, in a 2013 Pew Global Attitudes Survey, it was noted that “in Malaysia . . . roughly a quarter of Muslims (27 percent) take the view that attacks on civilians are sometimes or often justified.” However, if we add to this number the 12 percent who take the view that violence is “rarely justified” in defense of Islam (as opposed to never justified), essentially 39 percent of the Malaysian Muslims surveyed believed that violence can be justified against enemies of Islam. Significantly, Indonesians polled only 18 percent on the same question (1 percent “often,” 5 percent “sometimes,” and 12 percent “rarely”). In an earlier poll on The World’s Muslims: Religion, Politics, and Society, a mere 8 percent of Malaysians expressed concern about Muslim extremism while 31 percent were concerned about Christian extremism.

Now, I am not a big believer in surveys, which to my mind often raise more questions than answers. But reading this survey, I could not but come away with one thought - 39 percent of the Malaysian Muslims surveyed believed that violence can be justified against enemies of Islam. What is the relevance of the figures in the Malaysian context? I will return to this in a moment.

Second, Islam has unfortunately become heavily politicized in Malaysia. Malaysia’s dominant political party, UMNO, is a Malay-Muslim party that was created with the main objective, at least in theory, of promoting and defending Malay-Muslim supremacy. According to the party’s narrative, this supremacy is coming under siege from various cultural (read: non-Malay vernacular education) and religious (read: non-Muslim) quarters and hence has to be staunchly defended. Given that Malaysia has a Malay-Muslim majority population, it should come as no surprise that UMNO’s chief political opponents are also Malay-Muslim parties who equally brandish religious credentials as a source of legitimacy. To the extent that there is political ideology at play in Malaysia today, it is Islam, and specifically Islamism, that dominates.

Let me be clear: Islam casts a pale shadow over Malaysia today not because it is Islam, or even Islamism, per se, but because its proponents (and “defenders”) are articulating a particularly exclusive brand of Islam that is divorced from the religion’s historically enlightened traditions, and which has no intention to encourage pluralism or compromise. The net effect of this is that non-Muslims Malaysian are marginalized by as Islamist parties try to “out-Islam” each other. As UMNO struggles to cling to power by focusing on its religious credentials above all else, religion has become heavily politicized and is viewed as a zero sum game.

Third, this politicization of Islam is taking place against a backdrop of an exceedingly strong state which has taken upon itself to police Islam and curtail any expression of faith that departs from the mainstream Shafi’i tradition. Yes, the ummah may be universal and Islamic confessional traditions may be diverse, but in Malaysia there is very little room for compromise beyond the “Islam” sanctioned by the state. The Shi’a tradition is legally proscribed, and several smaller Islamic sects are deemed deviant and hence, banned. All this happens despite the existence of constitutional provisions for freedom of worship. Needless to say, attempts by various fringe quarters in Muslim society to move discourse away from an overly exclusivist register have run up against the considerable weight of the state, which defines and polices “right” and “wrong” Islam.

purves grundy this and the burma stuff might interest you
 
A lot of hot air. Hysterical. People write and propogate this stuff and participate in the empowering of ISIS.

No you're right. This bit looks like bollocks:

So the more realistic first step is to understand why this Muslim minority is so hated, not just by Buddhist extremists, but even the average citizen. Historians have explained it as a response to British colonialism. But what about today? Foreign governments, universities and/or international organizations need to commission studies on why such hatred has now surfaced in such a significant way. Let's put some academic experts and ambitious PhD students to work.

And then let's consider how some kind of public communication program could be launched to counter such negative sentiment, so the largely Buddhist population can start seeing Rohingyas as compatriots - not Bengali aliens. (Note: there are small numbers of youth who have already started a multi-religious Twitter and Facebook campaign called "My Friend" to show how Buddhist-Muslim friendships in Myanmar are possible).

Lol if theres one thing theres not enough of in the field of counter terrorism its enough 'engagement forums' and people writing PHDs about it ;)
 
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