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bendeus said:
It would be interesting to get a chemist's take on the type/quantity of a given toxin you'd need to tip into a reservoir to actually do anything nasty. Surely must be shitloads. Could this simply be a tactic to put the shits up the kuffars rather than anything that might have been actualised?
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I have no idea. The attempt in Pristina seems to have been real enough- one of the men allegedly was caught with an unspecified quantity of an unspecified posion.

What is less clear is *why* IS are targeting two small, obscure, poor Balkan states, at least one of which is a significant provider of fighters for the cause. Attempting to poison 1000s of people in these countries hardly seems a way to keep that flow of people coming southwards. In the longer run the aim seems to be to re-claim the ex-Ottoman Balkans as part of the "caliphate"; a mass poisoning action seems again, unlikely, to grease the wheels of that process.

Then again it's pretty clear rational thought isn't a prominent tool in the box of these seventh-century festishists.

More on the attempted Pristina attack here
 
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https://www.libyaherald.com/2015/07/12/daesh-seizes-village-without-a-fight-destroys-sirte-homes/


Tripoli, 12 July 2015:

In a continuing push westwards, militants from Daesh today took over a village near Abu Grain without encountering any resistance.

Al-Wushka, 35 kilometres east of Abu Grain was occupied without a fight. It is unclear if there were any Misratan militias in the area at the time.

The village is exactly 100 kilometres along the coastal highway from Daesh-held Sirte, back from which Misratan fighters were pushed last month.

In Sirte itself, Daesh has begun demolishing houses of politicians who oppose them. It is reported that at least a dozen homes have been looted and then destroyed, either by explosive placed within the buildings or by fire from RPGs.

One of the wrecked properties, in the town’s Swawa district, belongs to GNC member Mohamed Abduljaleel Al-Shawesh.

Meanwhile the militants issued a statement today, admitting that they had been pushed out of Derna by the Mujahedeen Shura Council but vowing to return and avenge their fighters killed during their ouster.



Bollocks :( although they've lost derna and thats a good thing.
 
A video, apparently filmed undercover in the Isis-controlled Iraqi city of Fallujah, shows people accused of eating in daylight hours during Ramadan 'crucified' in the street.

The video was filmed secretly from a moving car as it drives down a wide street in what appears to be Fallujah. Tied to each lamp post is a person, with their arms stretched out and tied to poles. They wear signs around their necks, detailing their so-called 'crimes'.

The video, which we will not publish here, also shows cars going by, and pedestrians walking past the crucified people on the busy street. At the top of the lamp posts, a black flags resembling the flag of Isis flutter in the wind.

Uploaded on 8 July, it's one of the most recent videos detailing the degree of brutality shown to those in Isis-controlled areas who do not live by the terrorist group's extremist religious views.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-isis-for-eating-during-ramadan-10386426.html
 
I genuinely struggle with a heartfelt desire to see every single one of them wiped from the face of the earth. I know this is what they want and I know that the potential of overspill from 'them' to 'those who bear a passing resemblance to them' is huge, but fuck me, they are scum.
 
bendeus said:
I genuinely struggle with a heartfelt desire to see every single one of them wiped from the face of the earth. I know this is what they want and I know that the potential of overspill from 'them' to 'those who bear a passing resemblance to them' is huge, but fuck me, they are scum.
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Me too :(
 
frogwoman said:
Me too :(
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Me too, im not a violent person in the least and i feel bad about saying this and know it won't help anything but i want them all to get killed. :( one of the most disturbing aspects of this is looking at a lot of twitter etc profiles of them and seeing how many of their supporters/followers seem to be young girls in their teens, who obviously end up talking with total scum :(
 
frogwoman said:
A video, apparently filmed undercover in the Isis-controlled Iraqi city of Fallujah, shows people accused of eating in daylight hours during Ramadan 'crucified' in the street.

The video was filmed secretly from a moving car as it drives down a wide street in what appears to be Fallujah. Tied to each lamp post is a person, with their arms stretched out and tied to poles. They wear signs around their necks, detailing their so-called 'crimes'.

The video, which we will not publish here, also shows cars going by, and pedestrians walking past the crucified people on the busy street. At the top of the lamp posts, a black flags resembling the flag of Isis flutter in the wind.

Uploaded on 8 July, it's one of the most recent videos detailing the degree of brutality shown to those in Isis-controlled areas who do not live by the terrorist group's extremist religious views.

:(
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-isis-for-eating-during-ramadan-10386426.html
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Just mental. Can't get my head round it. They don't even seem particularly 'Islamic'.
 
http://www.albawaba.com/news/daesh-survivors-lebanon-719200


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While refugees from all over Syria face similar problems, those from Raqqa lamented the billions of dollars being spent on combatting ISIS in their hometown while so few resources are reaching the living victims of terrorism.

“Everyone thinks about the politics, no one thinks about the humans,” Hussam said.

Samir bemoaned the cruel irony that many Lebanese believe he supports the terror group. “Everyone that sees us here thinks that [because] we’re from Raqqa [we like] Daesh,” he told The Daily Star, using the Arabic acronym for ISIS. “People think that we’re Daesh, but we fled Daesh ... If I liked them I would have stayed.”

Samir said he heard that if he manages to find $500 he can get to Europe by boat. In recent months, an increasing number of Syrian refuges have attempted the dangerous trip across the Mediterranean from Turkey.

When asked about the risk of death, Samir shrugged.

“It’s between dying here, in Syria or at sea,” he said.
 
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...ria-isis-crackdown-growing-jihadist-risk.html

Article here about Turkey's anti terror strategy - kebabking you might find this interesting

Near his new apartment on the streets of impoverished Haci Bayram, Murat says he is slowly reconnecting with his family and does not see Turkey as enemy territory. That conviction is tied to his belief that Turkey won't decisively crack down on IS while the jihadists battle Kurdish militants in northern Syria.

When asked about the recent arrests, his view of Turkey quickly soured. “We will regard any punishment in [Turkey] as a reward,” Murat declared. Emotionally volatile and wracked by post-traumatic stress disorder, Murat vacillates between disbelief at the violence of his actions in Syria and longing to return to combat. He expressed bewilderment at his commander's order to carry out a grisly execution of a peshmerga captive in Iraq earlier in the year. “I couldn't sleep for 10 days,” he said. Staring ahead blankly, Murat added unapologetically, “The laws are strict, but these are our commandments.”



Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...down-growing-jihadist-risk.html#ixzz3fqm1lqJP
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Is the Islamic State a terrorist organisation? Turkey's lawyers don't think so


http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/07/turkey-isis-legal-system-terror-organization.html

Regarding Turkish citizens trying to go to Syria and Iraq illegally, an army officer serving with a border detachment told Al-Monitor, “The legal process on the ground is not helpful to the security forces. For example, if I see an unarmed Turkish citizen trying to cross to Syria there is nothing I can do if he is outside the military forbidden zone along the border [which is between 197-1,969 feet wide]. I can’t actually do anything even if I catch him inside the military zone because someone has instructed him … to say he is a tourist and has entered the military zone by mistake. We have no choice but to turn him over to the police, who will give him a small fine and let him go.”

For Turkish IS militants who are caught when trying to enter Turkey illegally from Syria and Iraq, this legal vacuum is most useful.

Sources along the border who spoke to Al-Monitor on condition of anonymity say lawyers who are IS sympathizers are patrolling the border and the minute they hear that an IS militant has been caught, they rush to the scene and offer free legal advice.

"It is interesting to observe that the IS militants crossing the border illegally are very well briefed about their legal rights. In their first contact with us, during their medical checks and when appearing before a prosecutor, they exploit the gaps in the legal system," a senior security official told Al-Monitor. "Over the past two years, I have seen hundreds of Turkish citizens who I know to be definitely IS militants let go. As security forces we are doing our best, but if we don’t have adequate legal support how efficient can we be as individuals? I know of tens of security officials who are being investigated because of complaints lodged against their efforts to curtail IS traffic."



Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...system-terror-organization.html#ixzz3fqmhbWWY
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frogwoman said:
Is the Islamic State a terrorist organisation? Turkey's lawyers don't think so
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However as the articles to which you link make perfectly clear, both the Turkish government and the vast majority of Turkish citizens do think so.

Let us be quite plain about this. There is no significant sympathy for IS among Turks.
 
steeplejack said:
I have no idea. The attempt in Pristina seems to have been real enough- one of the men allegedly was caught with an unspecified quantity of an unspecified posion.

What is less clear is *why* IS are targeting two small, obscure, poor Balkan states, at least one of which is a significant provider of fighters for the cause. Attempting to poison 1000s of people in these countries hardly seems a way to keep that flow of people coming southwards. In the longer run the aim seems to be to re-claim the ex-Ottoman Balkans as part of the "caliphate"; a mass poisoning action seems again, unlikely, to grease the wheels of that process.

Then again it's pretty clear rational thought isn't a prominent tool in the box of these seventh-century festishists.

More on the attempted Pristina attack here
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And if they'd managed to blame it on the Serbs ?
 
Wasn't the case when they were lobbing nerve gas into khan al assal and a few other places . Mind you the rebels were all freedom fighters back then .

There were quite a few chemical attacks, Syrian troops and civilians killed . Syrians pleaded with the UN to come and investigate . The day the inspectors arrived Ghouta happened . Right beside them . Still no idea who did that one either . But Syria almost went the way of Libya .

daesh operatives had also been nabbed in turkey with sarin precursors . We know now what they're capable of . No problem to those guys
 
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Nylock said:
Not all muslims are beardy head-lopping terrorists. Most in the UK are about as observant as your average CofE person (i.e. Not at all). Do you really think every muslim in this country wants a part of IS? How about all the muslims out in Syria currently fighting against IS? Surely you must know this you fucking tool..
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They can't not be Muslim, haven't you heard of apostapy. <this you fucking tool..
They stay muslim so they don't face the wrath of their own, never mind IS.
If these so called non practitioners are so concerned they would renounce Islam, but they do not.

The Islamic State: The clue is in the name............ no religion, no state.

You lot carry on with fookin nuance, bullshoot.
If you defend Muslims, then you defend Islam. Religion is the PROBLEM.

Oh great one Butchers, if you can be deciphered it would be great, but mostly you can't, I'll just leave it there with you, oh great one.

Dot, explain to me how the Holy See and Catholics, Islam and Muslim are not intertwined. Watch out for excommunication and other minor nuance like apostapy.(tut)
 
gimesumtruf said:
They can't not be Muslim, haven't you heard of apostapy. <this you fucking tool..
They stay muslim so they don't face the wrath of their own, never mind IS.
If these so called non practitioners are so concerned they would renounce Islam, but they do not.

The Islamic State: The clue is in the name............ no religion, no state.

You lot carry on with fookin nuance, bullshoot.
If you defend Muslims, then you defend Islam. Religion is the PROBLEM.

Oh great one Butchers, if you can be deciphered it would be great, but mostly you can't, I'll just leave it there with you, oh great one.

Dot, explain to me how the Holy See and Catholics, Islam and Muslim are not intertwined. Watch out for excommunication and other minor nuance like apostapy.(tut)
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Didn't you use to be a decent poster, have something to say? Must have been a long time ago if so.
 
http://www.corriere.it/english/15_l...8a-11e5-8714-c38f22f7c1da.shtml?refresh_ce-cp

Very bizarre interview with a formerly catholic woman who converted to Islam and a few years later convinced her entire family to move to the caliphate.

“The messages I exchanged with my parents and sister weren’t incitements to jihad or anything like that. We talked about how my parents could have a good life here in IS”, she rationalises.
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“IS, you should know, is a perfect state. We don’t do anything here that conflicts with human rights. Things that those who don’t follow the law of Allah do”. Her indoctrination is so deeply ingrained that she even tries to recruit her interviewer. “You know the story of Guantanamo and other secret prisons. IS does not torture any prisoners, OK? IS acts according to the Sharia. In accordance with the law of Allah the merciful”.
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:facepalm:

More info here:

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/lady-jihad-lured-her-family-into-terror-b89e764e86ec
 
She tries to make a final declaration before the line cuts off completely. “Allah orders that the hand of a thief should be severed. As an example to all. So that no one will dare to come here to steal any more”.

:facepalm:
 
frogwoman said:
http://www.albawaba.com/news/daesh-gains-ground-hasakah-monitor-719420 Bollocks :(

http://www.worldcrunch.com/mobile/#a:18329 here's an article on the bosnian village where isis flags were found. What do you think not-bono-ever steeplejack ?
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i have not been there but know of it- pretty sure B92, the serb site has had it on the radrar for a while ( it would of course). place is a shitty little dump apparently- not exactly important - certainly its it garners more press than it deserves. The saudis pumping cash into the region has been an issue for a couple of decades now
 
Last Ramadan saw the proclamation of the caliphate as a triumphant Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi appeared in Mosul's Great Mosque to declare himself the leader of all Muslims worldwide. This Ramadan, things have changed dramatically for the organization. Al-Baghdadi is keeping an extremely low profile because of the coalition bombing campaign over Iraq and Syria, while the Islamic State is on the strategic defensive, struggling financially and to hold the territories it conquered.

Although many often refer to the Islamic State as the wealthiest terrorist group ever, they fail to understand that the organization is really an insurgency rather than a terrorist group — and that fighting a war on several fronts and governing territory, especially large cities such as Mosul, Raqqa and Ramadi, requires an incredible amount of money, resources and manpower. The Islamic State's resource burn rate is magnitudes larger than that of a true terrorist group or even a small insurgency. Coalition airstrikes against oil collection points, oil tankers and mobile refineries have put a serious dent in the Islamic State's economy. Though the group does earn considerable revenue from taxation, extortion and smuggling, these revenue sources — which are obtained mostly from the people the group rules — are limited and will breed increased resentment against the group as they are ramped up.

This Ramadan also brought a new challenge to the Islamic State when the al Qaeda pole of the transnational jihadist movement launched a widespread ideological campaign to undercut the Islamic State's support base. These ideological efforts have been impressive, at least to this middle-aged American analyst. It remains to be seen, however, if they will have the desired impact on wealthy jihadist donors and young recruits.

Resurgence
The first ideological salvo fired this Ramadan was the second issue of al Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent's Resurgence Magazine. The 92-page publication was a "special issue" containing a lengthy interview that the publisher, Hassaan Yusuf, had conducted with Adam Gadahn, aka "Azzam the American," an English-language spokesman for the al Qaeda core group who was killed by a U.S. airstrike in Pakistan in January.

While the interview was ostensibly a biography of Gadahn, Yusuf was able to cleverly shape it into a hit piece on the Islamic State. For example, Yusuf quoted Gadahn talking about al Qaeda's interactions with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. While Gadahn discussed al Qaeda's conflicts with al-Zarqawi, it emphasized that he was a strong proponent of jihadist unity and that he should not be held responsible for the "deviation" of those who claim to follow him today. The interview contained many scathing indictments of the Islamic State
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The second major ideological assault against the Islamic State was launched with the introduction of Al Risalah, a new English-language magazine by Jabhat al-Nusra. Risalah, which means "letter" in Arabic, has the stated purpose of dispelling "from the minds of
 the Muslims some of
 the mistaken notions
 and doubts promoted by the kuffar, hypocrites and deviant groups present amongst our midst, who aim to distort and destroy the clear and pure message of Islam and Jihad in the way of Allah."

The "hypocrites and deviants" the magazine focuses most intently upon hail from the Islamic State, which the magazine refers to as the Dawlat al-Baghdadi, or state of al-Baghdadi. The publication repeatedly criticizes the Islamic State for spreading dissension and attacking Jabhat al-Nusra/al Qaeda in Syria, when the latter are genuine jihadists. It also castigates the Islamic State for dividing and attacking fellow jihadists in Yemen, the Caucasus, Afghanistan and Libya. "They have made their khilafa a sword, which splits the Ummah, and not a khilafa, which gathers the Ummah together."
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