butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Ta. YPG to be fighting allepo is mad, to have some people do a confidence thing in return for FSA in kobani, yes. That's all i can see, the latter. If anything. Calling this as bullshit PR.
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butchersapron
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They burned the jordanian alive. They burned him in a cage.
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where'd you see that?
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Scum beyond belief.
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tbh i wouldn't be too put out if the jordanians advance the execution dates for the is people they've got on death row
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They said they will kill all ISIS and related people in their prisons if their pilot was killed.
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i don't see how the isis lot think this can end happily - even though it may be some time before this does all end - because i don't suppose capturing isis fighters is high on anyone's agenda. i suppose they may be saying to their fighters, now we've done this (be it shooting a load of soldiers in the desert, beheading journalists or burning this unfortunate man) you'll have to fight as it's death if you're caught.
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oh - was it ever established how the plane was brought down?
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I'm at a loss on this one. I can keep saying that there are rational reasons, sensible reasons, tactical reasons...i don't know what to say...that's personal savagery = the regime has done that for two years mind.
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i saw some details mentioned on the daily mail website which make it very difficult to think this was anything other than sadism. if you want to kill someone you can just shoot them or behead them or whatnot, but to douse them in petrol in a cage and then to run a trail back which is then lit - well, that's a whole different level. like you, i'm at a loss because there's no way that this is going to advance their cause - and much more likely to retard it.
This is what war means. It's what war has always meant--it's just that ISIS don't try to disguise their sadism. This is why we should not be fighting wars.
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Could it be to spark renewed sense of outrage and hostility? Perhaps they were concerned the beheadings were getting repetitive and were losing their shock value?
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perhaps you can expand on this because i for one am not aware of any other contemporary armed forces which execute the vast majority of the people they capture: although with the possible exception of boko haram.
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you might want to put spoiler tags round that image
Western leaders such as Bush and Cheney made numerous statements during the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan in which they boasted of their ruthlessness. They never worried about killing non-combatants, they even denied that non-combatants existed. They tortured prisoners brazenly and without any compunction. This is what you get.
Why? People ought to see it. They ought to be forced to see it.
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if people ought to see it i suppose you'll be dumping it all over other threads here so they do.
Yep. They are using the tactics known as "shock and awe."
I wonder where they learned them?
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strange that a) you name the president and vice-president of the us - no other leaders? b) that the us still managed to capture a shedload of people who didn't end up dead - they certainly didn't kill the majority of the people they captured.
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In that case you would at least think they would have noticed how useless such tactics are. One also wonders what religious excuse they will come up with for this, given that this punishment is something that Muhammad specifically forbade.
England.
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shock and awe terms associated with the battlefield and use of force in offensive operations, not with the treatment of prisoners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_and_awe
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