The General Election 2024/5 thread

[Idris2002]

Yes. Why?

krtek a houby is going to exorcise you with bell, book and candle. "Get thee behind me, Anglo", he will say.

 

[Sue]

But - just because you live outside your country of citizenship, does that mean you surrender your citizenship and your rights as a citizen?

If you haven't lived there for a certain amount of time, sure, I don't think you should have the right to vote there.

 

[krtek a houby]

Yes. Why?

We do things differently, you and I.

 

[Sue]

krtek a houby is going to exorcise you with bell, book and candle. "Get thee behind me, Anglo", he will say.

Not Anglo and even if I were, so what?

We do things differently, you and I.

Because you're Irish and I'm not? What a strange perspective.

 

[krtek a houby]

If you haven't lived there for a certain amount of time, sure, I don't think you should have the right to be able to vote there.

Luckily, the days of the British dictating what we should or shouldn't do are long gone.

 

[krtek a houby]

Not Anglo and even if I were, so what?


Because you're Irish and I'm not? What a strange perspective.

Have you been there?

 

[Idris2002]

Not Anglo and even if I were, so what?


Because you're Irish and I'm not? What a strange perspective.

That's the joke.

 

[Idris2002]

If you haven't lived there for a certain amount of time, sure, I don't think you should have the right to vote there.

Hang on, you don't actually mean that citizenship is surrendered due to extended residence outside the state?

 

[Sue]

Luckily, the days of the British dictating what we should or shouldn't do are long gone.

Time to get over it.

Have you been there?

Not really sure how that's relevant but yes, of course. I also have an Irish name and Irish heritage. Diaspora and all that.

 

[Idris2002]

Not Anglo and even if I were, so what?

You mean you're. . . Scotch?

What's Nicola Sturgeon really like? And have you seen the Loch Ness monster?

 

[krtek a houby]

Time to get over it.

Not really sure how that's relevant but yes, of course. I also have an Irish name and Irish heritage. Diaspora and all that.

Good for you. But you aren't a citizen. This is the heart of the matter - Irish citizens don't lose their citizenship living abroad and we should have the right to have some say in our country's direction.

It's not a question of getting over it.

 

[Sue]

Hang on, you don't actually mean that citizenship is surrendered due to extended residence outside the state?

Is not being able to vote somewhere surrendering your citizenship?

You mean you're. . . Scotch?

What's Nicola Sturgeon really like? And have you seen the Loch Ness monster?

I want to hear about the leprechauns!

Good for you. But you aren't a citizen. This is the heart of the matter - Irish citizens don't lose their citizenship living abroad and we should have the right to have some say in our country's direction.

It's not a question of getting over it.

Well no, not good for me. You asked a question, I answered, it's what it is. I just find it weird you're all so invested in voting, never mind voting in a country you don't live in and may not have lived in for years.

Anyway, going to leave you all to it as I've stuff to do.

 

[brogdale]

first preference exit poll?

be interesting to see the second

The exit poll’s examination of voters’ second preferences put Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael at 20% each, with Sinn Féin at 17%.

source

e2a:

 

[brogdale]

Distinct generational bias to SF/McDonald support:

 

[brogdale]

and more exit polling on preferred coalitions:

 

[Ax^]

gerry hutch fifth in Dublin central

people voting for that fuck are a special breed..

 

[brogdale]

FWIW...

 

[The39thStep]

But it would be ridiculous if there were more people outside Ireland voting in Irish elections than people actually living there. (Obviously dependent on where lines were drawn but that isn't that ridiculous given the numbers.)

And just because you're from a country originally, doesn't mean you should necessarily get a say in how it's run.

That would probably wipe out the recent election/referendum results in Romania, Georgia and Moldova

 

[Ax^]

national party got 4 % in Dublin North west..

maybe the wankers voting for hutch have some excuses

 

[andysays]

Is not being able to vote somewhere surrendering your citizenship?

I want to hear about the leprechauns!

Well no, not good for me. You asked a question, I answered, it's what it is. I just find it weird you're all so invested in voting, never mind voting in a country you don't live in and may not have lived in for years.

Anyway, going to leave you all to it as I've stuff to do.

Typical arrogant Brit, coming into the Ireland Forum and continuing centuries of oppression by expressing an opinion

 

[krtek a houby]

Is not being able to vote somewhere surrendering your citizenship?

I want to hear about the leprechauns!

Well no, not good for me. You asked a question, I answered, it's what it is. I just find it weird you're all so invested in voting, never mind voting in a country you don't live in and may not have lived in for years.

Anyway, going to leave you all to it as I've stuff to do.

You find it weird that someone cares about what happens in their country? Being able to vote can bring about change, just because you aren't currently living there doesn't mean you automatically aren't Irish. It doesn't mean you stop caring or having an interest in its future.

No? Ok. How about those who care about what happens in a country that they haven't lived in, like South Africa or Palestine or the US etc? Who wish for change, despite not living there? Is that weird, too?

 

[PR1Berske]

Live blog:

Green Party 'has not had a good day' - O'Gorman

Follow live updates as counting continues across 43 Dáil constituencies in a close General Election race.

www.rte.ie

 

[krtek a houby]

Typical arrogant Brit, coming into the Ireland Forum and continuing centuries of oppression by expressing an opinion

In fairness, you have previously got rather irate when I've expressed an opinion on your country.

 

[Idris2002]

Just voted. Number one:

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Judging by the first count tallies she's not in with a chance at all. And got beaten (by a nose) by the dodgy independent who wants to "make crime illegal". Looks like it'll be FG FF SF and Labour, in the person of Ivana Bacik. I was wondering if she'd be able to retain the seat she won in a by-election.

 

[PR1Berske]

From Gavan Reilly

Of the 173 elected this weekend, only 13 TDs will be elected on their first counts:

Micheal Martin (Cork SC)
Pearse Doherty (Don)
Eoin O Broin (Dub MW)
Jack Chambers & Paul Donnelly (Dub W)
Jennifer Carroll MacNeill (DL)
Michael Healy Rae (Kerry)
Patrick O'Donovan (Lmk Co)
Peter Burke (Ld-Wh)
Michael Fitzmaurice (Ros-G)
Michael Lowry (Tipp N)
David Cullinane (Wtfd)
Verona Murphy (Wex)
Simon Harris (Wlw)

#ge24

 

[Idris2002]

Mary Lou's first preferences are way down from last time, apparently - from circa 10K to 7K.

 

[redsquirrel]

I think it's reasonable that if you don't live in a country, you aren't able to vote there. Sure, have a period of two or three years (say) for those who're away temporarily but after that, no. (I'd friends who voted in the Brexit referendum despite being away for 10+ years which feels kind of wrong. I couldn't vote in Indyref because despite being Scottish I don't live there and I think that's fair enough.)

When I lived in Australia there was the ludicrous situation that I could vote in a UK constituency I lived in intermittently 5-10 years ago but could not vote my local council elections.

 

[PR1Berske]

Clare: outgoing SF TD Violet -Anne Wynne, now standing as an independent; 8,987 1st preferences last time, 310 this year, RTÉ calling it a record drop in votes.

 

[Idris2002]

Judging by the first count tallies she's not in with a chance at all. And got beaten (by a nose) by the dodgy independent who wants to "make crime illegal". Looks like it'll be FG FF SF and Labour, in the person of Ivana Bacik. I was wondering if she'd be able to retain the seat she won in a by-election.

Mr. make crime illegal gas been eliminated and Ivana's just 12 away from the quota.

The SocDems might just snatch the fourth seat away from SF, apparently.

 

[PR1Berske]

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