danny la rouge
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The Eagle landed 50 years ago: Apollo 11 anniversary thread
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danny la rouge
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All human beings alive at the time were in this photo. Two (Armstrong and Aldrin) in the Eagle lander, bottom of shot, the rest on Earth, on the Moon’s horizon.
All, that is, except the photographer, Mike Collins, alone in the Columbia command module.
2hats
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Watch along with the entire CBS mission coverage streamed in real time:
PS Also interesting to watch whilst reading the Apollo 11 technical crew debrief. Then there is also the Apollo 11 Lunar Surface Journal.
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wiskey
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I've also enjoyed this, but then I could listen to Maggie Aderin-Pocock read the Argos catalogue and be enthralled 
Moon - Launch - @bbcradio4 BBC Radio 4 - Moon, Launch
Moon - Launch - @bbcradio4 BBC Radio 4 - Moon, Launch
Mrs Miggins
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I watched that last week and was literally on the edge of my seat gasping at times. The story never ceases to amaze.
Mrs Miggins
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(But of course it was all faked 
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danny la rouge
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I was at a party a couple of weeks ago, talking to a married couple I’ve known since the 80s. I hadn’t seen them for 2 or 3 years, but they’re the sort of friends you pick back up with as if no time had passed. Good friends. I was with them when they announced their engagement (a New Years party in Aberdeen in 1985), and I was at their wedding. I know what music they love and hate. What food they like. I watched their kids grow up. I thought I knew them well. But I started talking about the Apollo 11 anniversary (because I’m a total geek) and they both started saying they couldn’t believe I was “a believer”! And how we didn’t have the technology and so on. The radiation would have killed them. All the tropes. I was completely blindsided. I still can’t tell if they were winding me up.(But of course it was all faked
I choose to believe they were. But maybe that’s just because it sits more easily with me.
Mrs Miggins
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Oh how awful for you. People you've known forever as well. It amazes me how anyone can believe that shit. And flat earth and the like.
I'm much more comfortable with religion than that kind of nonsense
Mrs Miggins
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You just want to bang their heads against a wall.
No they didn't have the technology that we have and lookie here at this photo - this is the kind of stuff they had to do because their computers were a lot less powerful. Love this photo.
No they didn't have the technology that we have and lookie here at this photo - this is the kind of stuff they had to do because their computers were a lot less powerful. Love this photo.
Steel Icarus
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What is happening in the photo Mrs M?
Steel Icarus
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Collins often gets overlooked; his name won't be familiar to nearly as many as Armstrong and Aldrin. I remember reading about his huge fear that he'd be the only one of the three to make it back and how he doubted he'd be able to cope.
Mrs Miggins
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danny la rouge
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Steel Icarus
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I haven't read that - but I will now. Thanks for the recommendation
Mrs Miggins
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Steel Icarus
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Thanks. That's fabulous. The very fact we "didn't have the technology" but did it anyway is what I like.
I wonder what technology moon-landing deniers think we needed. I'm no scientist - I don't know a periodic table from an occasional chair - but seems to me unbelievers imagine it was all done overnight rather than the culmination of tens, hundreds and thousands of years of knowledge of rocketry, physics, chemistry, etc.
Mrs Miggins
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ferrelhadley
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Teams from the UK, German, USSR and China would have been able to observe the signals from the spacecraft on radio telescopes and other kit, measure the doppler shift, triangulate their location and measure the occlusion as the vehicle passed behind the Moon. It would also likely be big enough that you could observe some of its stages firing from Earth with either the naked eye or binoculars. To have faked the landings in a way that fooled the USSR would have required a level of cunning and deception that we may struggle to pull off today let alone in 1969. The assumption at the time is that the USSR would be on the Moon themselves not long after.
It was also implicitly assumed that Shuttle would make space travel so cheap going back to the Moon would be a synch so if the landings were faked, they would have to also sneak back to the Moon and leave artefacts of their fake landing to maintain the ruse.
Today we now have small payloads that piggyback on commercial launches that can go to the Moon so its just a matter of a few million dollars to get a lander onto one of those sites and "blew the whole thing wide open".
The biggest technological hurdle to get to the Moon was rendezvous (as all Kerbals will tell you!). Germini was mostly aimed at solving that. Buzz Aldrin did his Ph.D on the topic.
DSpace@MIT: Line-of-sight guidance techniques for manned orbital rendezvous
With those solved, it was mostly about building a big enough rocket engine. (This massively simplifies things but those were the two big tech hurdles).
We also track some of the bits of the Apollo spacecraft on radars.
It was also implicitly assumed that Shuttle would make space travel so cheap going back to the Moon would be a synch so if the landings were faked, they would have to also sneak back to the Moon and leave artefacts of their fake landing to maintain the ruse.
Today we now have small payloads that piggyback on commercial launches that can go to the Moon so its just a matter of a few million dollars to get a lander onto one of those sites and "blew the whole thing wide open".
The biggest technological hurdle to get to the Moon was rendezvous (as all Kerbals will tell you!). Germini was mostly aimed at solving that. Buzz Aldrin did his Ph.D on the topic.
DSpace@MIT: Line-of-sight guidance techniques for manned orbital rendezvous
With those solved, it was mostly about building a big enough rocket engine. (This massively simplifies things but those were the two big tech hurdles).
We also track some of the bits of the Apollo spacecraft on radars.
danny la rouge
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Yeah, I don't think any amount of evidence will persuade someone who has decided to believe it's a fake. People will accept what fits and reject what doesn't.
TheHoodedClaw
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All the dead ones too, I suppose.
ferrelhadley
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We are made of starstuff. When we venture out beyond the Earth we are not leaving, we are going home.
Mrs Miggins
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Steel Icarus
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Only just noticed how much Mike Collins looks like Sheldon from Big Bang Theory. Also, has anyone in history looked tougher than Buzz Aldrin while sporting a polo-neck/cardie combination?
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existentialist
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a_chap
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One of my favourite photos of the original Mercury astronauts:
And there are more photos here:
If space didn't kill them, astronauts still had to train for survival in deserts and jungles
Edited to add: they were very wealthy - you can clearly see Shepard's and Grissom's Rolexes and Deke's iPhone....
And there are more photos here:
If space didn't kill them, astronauts still had to train for survival in deserts and jungles
Edited to add: they were very wealthy - you can clearly see Shepard's and Grissom's Rolexes and Deke's iPhone....
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