elbows
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By the way, in regards the James Forsyth reference at the end of that last one: James Forsyth (journalist) - Wikipedia
The Covid Inquiry
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elbows
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THe most sensational stuff from written evidence put on the screen today is in this document:
Helps a little bit with context to see it in full, but still not easy to fully decipher some bits as we dont know whats being said in, eg, meetings that they are mocking.
Will post a few more snippets shortly.
Helps a little bit with context to see it in full, but still not easy to fully decipher some bits as we dont know whats being said in, eg, meetings that they are mocking.
Will post a few more snippets shortly.
elbows
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BBC writeup of the more sensational aspects of todays evidence:
What is unsurprisingly missing from this sort of report is the stuff that implies that the most powerful civil servant in the land (alebit one who was on the way out) at the timer was trying to come up with ways, after the first wave, to shift to a plan that involved segmentation of the population rather than lockdowns in future, despite scientific advice about the impracticality. ANd was discussing this on WhatsApp with the person who became his successor. Also missing Vallance remarks about how Sedwill gave him the evil eye when they bypassed the civil service to ditch plan a over a weekend in mid March 2020.
Boris Johnson urged to remove Matt Hancock by top official
Lord Sedwill told the Covid inquiry there had been a loss of confidence in the former health secretary.
www.bbc.co.uk
What is unsurprisingly missing from this sort of report is the stuff that implies that the most powerful civil servant in the land (alebit one who was on the way out) at the timer was trying to come up with ways, after the first wave, to shift to a plan that involved segmentation of the population rather than lockdowns in future, despite scientific advice about the impracticality. ANd was discussing this on WhatsApp with the person who became his successor. Also missing Vallance remarks about how Sedwill gave him the evil eye when they bypassed the civil service to ditch plan a over a weekend in mid March 2020.
elbows
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The theme of the CMO (CW = Chris Whitty) being on the side of moving more slowly (fucking late) has also come up in other ways today during questioning of Vallance., Vallance is being kind about it, but its pretty clear that at various stages Whittys sense of balance ended up being part of the problem, and did not actually help reduce the harms that Whitty was concerned about that informed his view on that stuff in the first place.
A few bits of evidence in this regard that came up on the screen:
(the first one is I believe from a book by Jeremy Farrar who was Wellcome Trust head, SAGE person, now WHO chief scientist)
The fatigue, not from BS or SAGE is a reference to Whitty going on about fatigue if you go too early, in key March press conferences, a view that had not actually come from SAGE or from the behavioural scientists. It was a shit excuse for not acting early that he came up with back then, and this has come up in the inquiry a few times already, no doubt Whitty will be asked about this tomorrow.
A few bits of evidence in this regard that came up on the screen:
(the first one is I believe from a book by Jeremy Farrar who was Wellcome Trust head, SAGE person, now WHO chief scientist)
The fatigue, not from BS or SAGE is a reference to Whitty going on about fatigue if you go too early, in key March press conferences, a view that had not actually come from SAGE or from the behavioural scientists. It was a shit excuse for not acting early that he came up with back then, and this has come up in the inquiry a few times already, no doubt Whitty will be asked about this tomorrow.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Boris is a thick cunt shocker.
elbows
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They only announce the witness timetable one week at a time, usually on a Thursday I believe.
They arent appearing this week. And there are only about 2 and a half weeks left of this module after this week. So they are likely to appear next week or the week after.
elbows
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I couldnt do anything about the messy format, although the blue highlighting is down to me grabbing those off the live video feed when they put them up on screen.
The pdf version of all that late October 2020 stuff is available at:
INQ000280061_0240-0244, 0246, 0248-0253 - Transcription of handwritten notes made by Sir Patrick Vallance, dated between 27/10/2020 and 01/11/2020. UK Covid-19 Inquiry Archives
Extract of Transcription of handwritten notes made by Sir Patrick Vallance, dated between 27/10/2020 and 01/11/2020
covid19.public-inquiry.uk
elbows
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Well they've already had the opportunity to test how that sloagan looks on some front pages.
edit - oh I see someone already posted these on the Sunak thread.
elbows
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They've tried to probe Whitty today on the idea that he was a 'delayer' compared to the likes of Vallance, but he dealt with this in his typical fashion.
He remains an excellent example of how an orthodox professional with lots of experience can still doom us to late action despite appearing to be so very bloody reasonable, credible and balanced at all times.
He remains an excellent example of how an orthodox professional with lots of experience can still doom us to late action despite appearing to be so very bloody reasonable, credible and balanced at all times.
elbows
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Fucking Nick Triggle of the BBC, who was the shithead that wrote awful propaganda about carrying on with our lives at just the moment when the government were about to ditch their original pandemic approach (Friday 13th March 2020), and was full of dangerous shit when the second wave was growing too, is one of the BBC reporters covering the inquiry at the moment.
Given his pandemic track record I was entirely unsurprised to see him spinning things in the following way today:
Bollocks to that last sentence.
from https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-67451423?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=655c8c0b25a3f537282868b4&Managing Covid and lockdown a difficult balance&2023-11-21T11:11:30.978Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:a3d5e732-8a51-4b88-b6d1-7444eceeac5c&pinned_post_asset_id=655c8c0b25a3f537282868b4&pinned_post_type=share
Given his pandemic track record I was entirely unsurprised to see him spinning things in the following way today:
Bollocks to that last sentence.
from https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-67451423?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=655c8c0b25a3f537282868b4&Managing Covid and lockdown a difficult balance&2023-11-21T11:11:30.978Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:a3d5e732-8a51-4b88-b6d1-7444eceeac5c&pinned_post_asset_id=655c8c0b25a3f537282868b4&pinned_post_type=share
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