*The Archers thread

[danny la rouge]

Cripes. They're doing it again. The Archers in fact and fiction: Academic analyses of life in rural Borsetshire

Carenza Lewis? She used to be on Time Team. 8)

 

[two sheds]

Papers might include but are by no means limited to:

· Clicktivism and crowd-sourcing philanthropy

· Archers tribes – ethnographic accounts of a fandom differentiated by online activity

· The housing crisis in South Borsetshire

· Route B as “local democracy as usual”

· Are all educated older women permanently stoned?

· Rural and village economics, from the village store to agribusiness

· Divisions of labour on a family farm

· The implications of coercive control for the legal and penal system

They clearly need a paper on "The housing crisis in South Borsetshire" from an anarchist and revolutionary socialist perspective.

Working class Grundies (characatured by the state broadcaster as criminals and layabouts who vandalize the house and grounds to put off prospective buyers) being driven out of their home for an investment home for the middle class. The BBC also vilifying the womanas the greedy one with the philanthropic male coming to the rescue and showing his sympathy for the lower orders by joining in the cider club.

 

[dolly's gal]

Rob's obvs going to try and kidnap Jack (and possibly Henry). or at least he is in my mind. i'm finding it all a bit dull after the drama of the - ooo - last 2 years

 

[TikkiB]

They clearly need a paper on "The housing crisis in South Borsetshire" from an anarchist and revolutionary socialist perspective.

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Do it! I'm thinking of doing one about the tyranny of the church flower arranging rota.

 

[kalmatthew]

Rob's obvs going to try and kidnap Jack (and possibly Henry). or at least he is in my mind. i'm finding it all a bit dull after the drama of the - ooo - last 2 years

Listening to last night I'm half expecting Jazza to lie in wait for Rob and give him a kicking.

 

[dolly's gal]

well last night's was pretty dramatic

 

[wiskey]

Rob's obvs going to try and kidnap Jack (and possibly Henry). or at least he is in my mind. i'm finding it all a bit dull after the drama of the - ooo - last 2 years

I think so too.

 

[Shirl]

I'm with Jill. If one of my family had invited someone that they knew I didn't like to my birthday party I'd have been pissed off too. I'd have said they couldn't come.

 

[trashpony]

I'm with Jill. If one of my family had invited someone that they knew I didn't like to my birthday party I'd have been pissed off too. I'd have said they couldn't come.

Pip's vile. She's taken up with a feckless chicken killer and expects her whole family to capitulate. I hope he turns out to be married and breaks her stupid cocky heart.

 

[Guineveretoo]

I'm with Jill. If one of my family had invited someone that they knew I didn't like to my birthday party I'd have been pissed off too. I'd have said they couldn't come.

Me too (it is my birthday next weekend, and I hope it doesn't happen!), but I don't think I would have been quite as nasty about it as Jill was.

 

[Guineveretoo]

Pip's vile. She's taken up with a feckless chicken killer and expects her whole family to capitulate. I hope he turns out to be married and breaks her stupid cocky heart.

he's definitely going to break her heart (love the description of "stupid cocky heart"!) because he has been shown to be a wanker throughout. I speculate that Rex will be around to pick up the pieces and help Pip to mend them. Although why he would want to, I don't know. Sloppy seconds and all that.

 

[TikkiB]

Pip's vile. She's taken up with a feckless chicken killer and expects her whole family to capitulate. I hope he turns out to be married and breaks her stupid cocky heart.

He does keep having to go down to Brighton - I think there might be a child which he has fecklessly fathered. I am with the anti Fairbrethen/Pip people, but wasn't it heartening to hear Emma tear strips off Rob, and the slow clapping cricket team.

 

[Guineveretoo]

He does keep having to go down to Brighton - I think there might be a child which he has fecklessly fathered. I am with the anti Fairbrethen/Pip people, but wasn't it heartening to hear Emma tear strips off Rob, and the slow clapping cricket team.

I hadn't noticed the Brighton stuff.

But yes, it was great to hear Emma standing up to Rob. Not sure why it took her so long, though - he is really not that good at being charming.

 

[TikkiB]

I hadn't noticed the Brighton stuff.

But yes, it was great to hear Emma standing up to Rob. Not sure why it took her so long, though - he is really not that good at being charming.

She was conflicted by being paid to look after Henry while Helen was on remand, and previously he's been too slippery/intimidating/charming for people to get a handle on why he's a wrong 'un

 

[Guineveretoo]

She was conflicted by being paid to look after Henry while Helen was on remand, and previously he's been too slippery/intimidating/charming for people to get a handle on why he's a wrong 'un

I know, but it made me feel uncomfortable at the time that she was looking after Henry, because of the things that Rob was saying and the way that he treated her and treated Henry. I guess she didn't think it was her place or something, but I felt like she should have said something to someone.

 

[weltweit]

Wonder how long Rob will keep his job with Justin Elliot?

 

[TikkiB]

I know, but it made me feel uncomfortable at the time that she was looking after Henry, because of the things that Rob was saying and the way that he treated her and treated Henry. I guess she didn't think it was her place or something, but I felt like she should have said something to someone.

She had less to go on than bloody Shula who lied about Rob's attacl on the sab last year

 

[Ms T]

Pip's vile. She's taken up with a feckless chicken killer and expects her whole family to capitulate. I hope he turns out to be married and breaks her stupid cocky heart.

 

[RubyToogood]

Me too (it is my birthday next weekend, and I hope it doesn't happen!), but I don't think I would have been quite as nasty about it as Jill was.

I had to do some research on this because I wasn't sure why she was so vitriolic about it. The Fairbrothers are relations of Grace Fairbrother, who was Phil Archer's first wife and presumably hovered over Jill a lot in a ghostly way in that marriage, and their father broke Elizabeth's heart also.

The jam incident was just another black mark against the Fairbrother name.

I missed all this at the time, I thought they had just wandered in from nowhere in particular.

Who are the Fairbrothers?

 

[Guineveretoo]

She had less to go on than bloody Shula who lied about Rob's attacl on the sab last year

That's true, although we did hear Shula being told by Rob why she needed to lie. She didn't fall for his charms as such - she just believed his evil bullshit, which is not the same thing.

 

[Guineveretoo]

I had to do some research on this because I wasn't sure why she was so vitriolic about it. The Fairbrothers are relations of Grace Fairbrother, who was Phil Archer's first wife and presumably hovered over Jill a lot in a ghostly way in that marriage, and their father broke Elizabeth's heart also.

The jam incident was just another black mark against the Fairbrother name.

I missed all this at the time, I thought they had just wandered in from nowhere in particular.

Who are the Fairbrothers?

This keeps being referred to as if we all already understand the background!

Today/last night they did spell it out a bit better by saying something like "you can't blame Toby for what Robin did to Elizabeth" and, I think, they said something about him breaking her heart as well.

I hate to show my ignorance but who is Phil Archer?

 

[TikkiB]

Phil Archer was the husband of Jill, and father of Shula, Kenton, David and Elizabeth. His first wife Grace was killed in a fire (on the night that ITV was first transmitted!) Some of Jill and Phil's backstory was about Jill feeling like she could never live up to the memory of Grace (which probably explains the overcompensation through baking).


Phil's brother Jack was Peggy Archer's first husband, and brother to Christine (who lives with Peggy).

 

[Guineveretoo]

Phil Archer was the husband of Jill, and father of Shula, Kenton, David and Elizabeth. His first wife Grace was killed in a fire (on the night that ITV was first transmitted!) Some of Jill and Phil's backstory was about Jill feeling like she could never live up to the memory of Grace (which probably explains the overcompensation through baking).


Phil's brother Jack was Peggy Archer's first husband, and brother to Christine (who lives with Peggy).

Ah, okay.

I need to look out that family tree thing that I once saw explaining who everyone is

 

[TikkiB]

Ta Da!
List of The Archers characters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[wiskey]

Phil's brother Jack was Peggy Archer's first husband, and brother to Christine (who lives with Peggy).

Ahhh I have never understood where Christine fitted in!

 

[wiskey]

Anyway Rob will kidnap at least one of the boys I reckon.

 

[a_chap]

Kidnap and eat, surely.

 

[TikkiB]

I've started actively enjoying the Archers again -it's a strange and novel feeling.

 

[wiskey]

But Adam is such a wet blanket ... this was your chance to do better Iain!

 

[Shirl]

I was made up for Adam and Iain. I like Adam, he's weak but there's something gentle about him that appeals. Iain's sound too, I think they make a great couple.
And stick that up your bum Rob. Being a shit that time didn't work did it!

edited because of my rubbish spelling