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I think the tweeting thing was just a device to close this 15 minutes with a little added drama, it is still possible that Friday's episode may continue as this one left off, the case may just continue as is ..
 
weltweit said:
How would your preferred ending have sounded?
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There is a mass of content in the trial. It has been built up over in excess of a year.

The sole content of the final twenty seconds of today is "drama."

The sole point, afaict, is so that listeners say "OMFG DRAMA," and "OMFG the scriptwriters are SO clever."

There is literally fuck all else there. That is the sum content of the ending. Which "everyone" is talking about. Instead of the actual contents of the trial. Or the issues the trial (and Jess' testimony, and Rob's shit dad) raises.

As I argued earlier, it's implausible, context free, entirely without any form of development, and centred on non-characters. It's vapid. It's melodramatic.

And in the context of what else is going on, to have something that is - literally - beyond pointless dropped in for no purpose other than shock / "aren't we clever" value in the final 20s is a fucking disgrace. It's vacuous, sensationalist bullshit, and an insult to all that's gone before.

And that is all that I've seen on archers discussions - comments about how clever the scriptwriters were, "omfg totes didn't see that!", and pretty much fuck all about the actual content or implications of the trial.

I seriously wonder if they've received advice from someone in some professional role who suggested that the actual trial content is far too hard for fluffy listeners to bear, and so it's best to take their minds off it with some total content-free bullshit at the end.
 
They could have just not included the bit about Twitter and the juror and nobody would have thought anything was missing... As it was it felt forced.
 
mrs quoad said:
And that is all that I've seen on archers discussions - comments about how clever the scriptwriters were, "omfg totes didn't see that!", and pretty much fuck all about the actual content or implications of the trial.
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What sites do you go on??!! Pretty much everything I've seen has been "that was a shit bit, there's an hour long episode on Sunday so we know the trial goes ahead. Anyway, back to the episode..."
 
What about poor Ian. He now knows about the fruit picker too. I wonder how that's going to pan out. Post trial big story?
 
The prosecution brought up the fact that Ian didn't like Rob because Rob told him about the affairs with the picker and the farm manager but I don't think he did tell him about the picker. He knows now though
 
wiskey said:
Can we just have a Pat free episode!! Ffs
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I came to a realisation about this which is that it's the acting that is so grating more than the writing, although that's bad enough. It's the loud hysteria - it's totally uncharacteristic of Pat. I can imagine her beating herself up about the whole thing but the loud wailing, no.
 
RubyToogood said:
I came to a realisation about this which is that it's the acting that is so grating more than the writing, although that's bad enough. It's the loud hysteria - it's totally uncharacteristic of Pat. I can imagine her beating herself up about the whole thing but the loud wailing, no.
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Hmm, although it is mindnumbingly annoying, I think it's all too plausible too. I had (have) an issue with her suddenly stopping disliking Rob, but her current breakdown does flow from that. Consumed by guilt, thinks she can't cope. Again. What kind of mother...etc etc.

It does bloody grate tho
 
mrs quoad hope you are happy, the twitter juror did not waylay proceedings much.

What are the options for the jury, guilty or not guilty I am sure but what about attempted manslaughter etc ?
 
wiskey said:
Yeah but that's not exactly Pat of old though is it? She's become a proper wet blanket.

Even Tony crying was believe able.
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Absolutely not. But that change was made well over a year ago. It is now just about in character, she's crushed too, Helen isn't the only one affected. That's quite plausible I think
 
weltweit said:
mrs quoad hope you are happy, the twitter juror did not waylay proceedings much.

What are the options for the jury, guilty or not guilty I am sure but what about attempted manslaughter etc ?
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I think they can only say yes or no to murder.

When I was foreman of the jury at a rape/kidnap case at the Old Bailey we had to acquit him because you have to convict on the evidence in front of you and it just wasn't there... We all knew he did it though :mad:
 
wiskey said:
I think they can only say yes or no to murder.

When I was foreman of the jury at a rape/kidnap case at the Old Bailey we had to acquit him because you have to convict on the evidence in front of you and it just wasn't there... We all knew he did it though :mad:
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There's two charges, iirc. Don't quote me on this, but I think attempted murder and gbh s.18 / with intent (as the lesser option, if they want to acquit on the attempted murder but are well up for sanctioning stabby behaviour).
 
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