Terror Plot

[pk]

yes

"PK - not funny any more"

Depends on the sense of humour.

I for one laughed out loud when you suggested once that the MMR vaccines actually contained microchips enabling the government to keep tabs on each and every citizen recieving a jab...



Maybe you are the king of comedy, or maybe you're just used to people laughing at you... either way, keep it up!

 

[Loki]

"Huntley Is Innocent!"

"Vaccines Cause More Harm That The Diseases They Are Meant To Prevent!"



Any other groundbreaking reports, Jazzz?

You forgot "AA flights did not exist!"

That one was fun.

 

[Jazzz]

Well perhaps you should shut the fuck up and get the facts first.

He posted up a total of three *huge* FAQ-busting cut and pastes, two of which were from that biased author who censors comments off his website that make him look bad, but allows ones that agree with him - even if they're anonymous!

okay, well let's move on. I didn't dispute that, and I know Nafeez Ahmed is not your flavour of the month! But I think this is a perfectly good article, I'm sure everyone sees that.

 

[Wilf]

Azrael repeatedly fucks about with the faq-s - in this case carrying on cut and pasting straight after being warned. He can't complain - its entirely reasonable as he's fucking things up for the Mods. Suspect also he causes genuine annoyance for a lot of posters - esp. London based ones - when he gets onto his 7/7 theories. If he getsa permanent ban, well, he had been warned.

Have to say though its a bit synthetic when other postersseem to suggest he's really offending them or whatever. His radically different (to say the least) view on reality is actually a source of great amusement and has launched a thousand owl jokes. As somebody also said, he does usually mange to remain polite, even when he's being called a fuckspud. Dunno what i'm saying really, just that we shouldn't suggest, as users of u75 that our quality of (posting) life is reduced by azrael's presence.

 

[Psychonaut]

Do you not agree he was breaking the FAQ though?

I hope you don't imagine he was 'unfairly censored for speaking the truth' or something.

Eh? What gives you that idea - all ive said is ill miss the guy, and listed what i consider to be his outstanding attributes. I have NOT commented or speculated on the reasons for his being banned.

Well, i cant comment on the C+P issues, as its been snipped but ill agree it seems likely that he broke the FAQ in this case. However, a fair bit of the FAQ is pure nonsense anyway - one one of the main lines ('sheeple accusing gun nuts...') about 1/2 of that sentance is composed of cliquey made-up words like 'conspiraloon' - with no clarification of what EXACTLY they might means.

I know its Editors site and hes entitled to his rules etc - im pointing out that you cant reasonably expect other people (ie me) to interpret what all of those 'rules' actually are.

Your post reads like that of a fellow-conspiracist -- what's 'hypocritical' about finding bonkers made up nonsense from well dodgy sources tedious?......

lets take a look in the bin;

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=177899

ill admit the thread title could be more explicit - thats in the FAQ iirc, yet how many similarly poor-titled threads do you see outside the bin, by popular posters?

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=177902

what is the problem here exactly? I seriously doubt it'd be in the bin if id have posted the same thread/replies.

Whilst some people here may feel a genuine heart-felt need to express themselves strongly on certain Azrael23-related issues, i dont think anyone (if being honest with themselves) could disagree that theres often a playground bullying/lynch-mob mentality at work here - and im not the first to say i find that quite sickening.

And as for 'closedmindedness' ... people should mind that their 'minds' are not so 'open' that their brains fall out, in a much repeated but entirely valid axiom .... in this context.

Lets take reptilians/UFOs as a favourite example - such imagery is widely documented across the ancient world, references appear across cultures, continents and millenia.
Yet any mention, even the openminded 'maybe' position is automatically ridiculed and arrogantly filed under the 'fruitloop' label.
The 'fruitloopery' of such (IMMENSELY well-sourced) speculation is apparently deemed so obvious, as to dispense completely with the need to examine the source material - and launch straight to the ad hominem abuse.

 

[editor]

You forgot "AA flights did not exist!"

That one was fun.

Surely the 'holographic planes' from the sci-fi fantasy 2025 'army manual' have got to be near the top too?

 

[editor]

I know its Editors site and hes entitled to his rules etc - im pointing out that you cant reasonably expect other people (ie me) to interpret what all of those 'rules' actually are.

Problem is that Azrael has a long, long, history of breaking the FAQ with endless cut and paste threads and he has been warned repeatedly, so to suggest that he didn't know exactly what he was doing is disingenuous in the extreme.

 

[Wilf]

Fuck! I just clicked back onto this thread and a kind of bar-code type image flashed briefly (but definitely) on my screen. I take it all back, I'm a believer

 

[Psychonaut]

He's a gullible paranoid whining woe-is-me cunt and a permaban might wake him up to some semblance of reality.

And he can take that twat Prole with him.

Plenty of other websites for his anti-semitic theories.

I dont know which theories you refer to, but you have frequently made the laughable claim that David Icke is an anti-semite.

I must have missed that bit in all the hours hes spent discussing 'infinite love' and 'one conciousness'

 

[editor]

I dont know which theories you refer to, but you have frequently made the laughable claim that David Icke is an anti-semite.

I can't be arsed with the nutter myself, but there's certainly enough people who have their suspicions:
http://www.varsity.utoronto.ca/archives/120/oct12/news/anti.html
http://www.nndb.com/people/455/000022389/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke
http://books.guardian.co.uk/extracts/story/0,,457988,00.html

 

[pk]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5508287703311663318&q=label:ufo

Now that's a conspiracy theory I can get my teeth into, none of this holograms and vaccines load of old bollocks...

 

[fogbat]

He may have remained polite in terms of not directly insulting anyone, but there's been no end to his condescending, patronising comments.

 

[Wilf]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5508287703311663318&q=label:ufo

Now that's a conspiracy theory I can get my teeth into, none of this holograms and vaccines load of old bollocks...

I didn't realise that so many life improving inventions had been stopped by the CIA! Its amazing how Dr Emmet Brown managed to get away with that time machine he built

 

[Psychonaut]

I can't be arsed with the nutter myself, but there's certainly enough people who have their suspicions:
http://www.varsity.utoronto.ca/archives/120/oct12/news/anti.html
http://www.nndb.com/people/455/000022389/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke
http://books.guardian.co.uk/extracts/story/0,,457988,00.html

have you seen the Jon Ronson documentary youve linked (4th)
That group came across as a right bunch of hysterical clowns - towards the end they do eventually admit that 'reptile' does indeed mean 'reptile' & not 'jew' IIRC.

 

[Teepee]

A very clever guy I know has done a very in-depth debunk of a lot of the conspiranoid theories out there, I reccomend people check it out

http://internetdetectives.biz/case/loose-change

 

[detective-boy]

Now that I've spotted the third massive cut and paste today, I'm thinking that too.

Sounds like "suicide by Mod", U75s very own version of suicide by cop!

 

[Dubversion]

I dont know which theories you refer to, but you have frequently made the laughable claim that David Icke is an anti-semite.

I must have missed that bit in all the hours hes spent discussing 'infinite love' and 'one conciousness'

whilst i don't know whether Icke is an anti-semite or not, the latter comment does not refute the former. Any number of belief systems or cults or ideologies will espouse fraternal love on the one hand and bigotry on the other and it's naive not to appreciate this

 

[William of Walworth]

You might want to re-read my reasons for being generally anti-conspiracist Psychonaut. The bit you didn't quote!

The way most of them, and especially Azrael23, operate, offends my principles of sound historical methodology. He lacked any ability properly to assess the credibility of sources, or ever be sceptical towards (some) 'unofficial' sources/websites, which he tended to automatically and gullibly swallow up, as well as towards 'official' ones, which he tended to automatically disbelieve on principle.

So yes, call me biased. In favour of genuine, credible research and proper use of evidence and primary sources.

 

[Crispy]

He lacked any ability properly to assess the credibility of sources

Your avoidance of a split infinitive, I admire.

 

[Blagsta]

I dont know which theories you refer to, but you have frequently made the laughable claim that David Icke is an anti-semite.

I must have missed that bit in all the hours hes spent discussing 'infinite love' and 'one conciousness'

Errrrmmm...his use of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion perhaps? Or his claim that a clique of Jews engineered the world wars?

Seems like you missed 'em.

 

[kyser_soze]

Jazz - when you posted the same stuff, you provided a link and a edited c&p from it. A23 dumped the whole article up in a FAQ buster...can you not see ANY difference there?

Psychonaut - Azreal23 like many conspiracy types has the exact opposite of an open mind - anything that doesn't conform to his Rothchilds-are-lizards view is deemed as 'fake' and anyone who thinks differently, even if they can argue their point (endlessly) with evidence rather than association and extrapolation, is derided as 'sheeple' and 'blind to the world as it is'.

As for your examples of threads that were dumped...fucks sake, defending a thread supporting a cynical moneymaker liek Tsarion? Jesus, you buy snake-oil on a regular basis as well or something?

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Psychonaut - Azreal23 like many conspiracy types has the exact opposite of an open mind - anything that doesn't conform to his Rothchilds-are-lizards view is deemed as 'fake' and anyone who thinks differently, even if they can argue their point (endlessly) with evidence rather than association and extrapolation, is derided as 'sheeple' and 'blind to the world as it is'.

I think the number of people I've heard talking about 'open minds' who actually mean 'you should believe without question whatever I'm talking about' is still hovering around the 100% mark.

 

[Psychonaut]

Errrrmmm...his use of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion perhaps? Or his claim that a clique of Jews engineered the world wars?

Seems like you missed 'em.

A clique of people including but not limited to jews iirc.

Even if he did claim 'a clique of Jews engineered..' that would not be racist - Hes talking about a tiny group of people, not an entire race. And hes repeatedly stated that the obvious fact that the jewish race, overall were overwhelmingly the victims of that era.

Anyway, that protocols stuff was years ago - i think hes dumped that now, along with Sitchen and other things...

 

[In Bloom]

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=177902

I`m trying not to pity the black and white worldview many have...whatever makes life easier for you I guess.

Aye, polite as fuck, for a pious, patronising nutter

 

[Blagsta]

A clique of people including but not limited to jews iirc.

Even if he did claim 'a clique of Jews engineered..' that would not be racist - Hes talking about a tiny group of people, not an entire race. And hes repeatedly stated that the obvious fact that the jewish race, overall were overwhelmingly the victims of that era.

Anyway, that protocols stuff was years ago - i think hes dumped that now, along with Sitchen and other things...

Yeah, whatever you say mate.

 

[kyser_soze]

I love the 'black and white' worldview that we have, as opposed to the 'It's the government against everyone and that's as far as it goes!! And anyone who doesn't believe in Tarot cards, crystals and the age of aquarius is a closed-minded, black and white person'

 

[kyser_soze]

Psychonaut, it bothers me that your tagline refers to you as a 'state funded philosopher' and yet you seem to give credence to ideas and theories, and those who espouse them. Clearly your state funded philosophy hasn't taught you much critical thinking - I want my money back please.

 

[pk]

that protocols stuff was years ago - i think hes dumped that now, along with Sitchen and other things...

Oh, that's OK then.

So can we start taking his Queen Mum reptilian shapeshifter ideas seriously now then?

Oh goody!

She really is you know. And when the Queens blinks, the eyelashes work from the sides, not from the top as all norman non-lizard people.

 

[Psychonaut]

...
As for your examples of threads that were dumped...fucks sake, defending a thread supporting a cynical moneymaker liek Tsarion? Jesus, you buy snake-oil on a regular basis as well or something?

He wasnt 'defending' Tsarion as far as i could see. hes opening him up for discussion whilst taking the open-minded 'maybe' position.

I`m open to suggestions of alien intervention, its a large cosmos is it not? Not to mention the inconsistencies that arise when we look at our "evolutional" past. I`m not saying anything is "truth", however I do not ignore information upon societal programming. I will hold this information under a "maybe" kind of label. It causes me no problems. It is food for thought thats all.

 

[frogwoman]

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