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Right I’ve got an annual pass ticket for 3 adults to the tank museum at Bovingdon. It’s valid until May 2023 I think.

Anyone want this? Can post when I get home in a week or so
 
Right I’ve got an annual pass ticket for 3 adults to the tank museum at Bovingdon. It’s valid until May 2023 I think.

Anyone want this? Can post when I get home in a week or so

I did a stint in the MRS at Bovington once. (A place for sick soldiers who are not sick enough for hospital) TE Lawrence died there after a motorcycle accident.
 
Right I’ve got an annual pass ticket for 3 adults to the tank museum at Bovingdon. It’s valid until May 2023 I think.

Anyone want this? Can post when I get home in a week or so
How does it work. can it be passed around? I'd like to go, but am fortunate in not needing a freebie as much as others. Thanks
 
How does it work. can it be passed around? I'd like to go, but am fortunate in not needing a freebie as much as others. Thanks
I’ve just realised I forgot to respond to this. It’s in my new house, somewhere :hmm: and when I’ve located it again I can drop you a PM :)
 
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After the embarrassing performance of Russian tanks in Ukraine, I kind of wonder how modern Western tanks might have fared in similar circumstances. I’m not talking about the bad tactical decisions and inadequate support that made them sitting targets in the same place, but a like-for-like comparison of survivability against the anti-tank weapons that have been fired on the Russian tanks.

In other words, would a single NLAW or Javelin missile destroy or at least permanently disable a Challenger II or Leopard?
 
After the embarrassing performance of Russian tanks in Ukraine, I kind of wonder how modern Western tanks might have fared in similar circumstances. I’m not talking about the bad tactical decisions and inadequate support that made them sitting targets in the same place, but a like-for-like comparison of survivability against the anti-tank weapons that have been fired on the Russian tanks.

In other words, would a single NLAW or Javelin missile destroy or at least permanently disable a Challenger II or Leopard?
Oh most probably, so good thing the Russians don't have many of those!
 
Oh most probably, so good thing the Russians don't have many of those!
I guess the game is really about about prevention and battlefield superiority… Still, IIRC some of the older Russian models actually have ammunition stored in the turret, which is why entire turrets have been seen flying high into the sky like a NYE firework? Doesn’t bode well for crew survivability :(
 
After the embarrassing performance of Russian tanks in Ukraine, I kind of wonder how modern Western tanks might have fared in similar circumstances. I’m not talking about the bad tactical decisions and inadequate support that made them sitting targets in the same place, but a like-for-like comparison of survivability against the anti-tank weapons that have been fired on the Russian tanks.

In other words, would a single NLAW or Javelin missile destroy or at least permanently disable a Challenger II or Leopard?

all the tech but none of the operational knowledge is the problem with Russia

how many of the original army died in the we can do this within 2 days nonsense at the start of the war
 
After the embarrassing performance of Russian tanks in Ukraine, I kind of wonder how modern Western tanks might have fared in similar circumstances. I’m not talking about the bad tactical decisions and inadequate support that made them sitting targets in the same place, but a like-for-like comparison of survivability against the anti-tank weapons that have been fired on the Russian tanks.

In other words, would a single NLAW or Javelin missile destroy or at least permanently disable a Challenger II or Leopard?

Particularly with Javelin, if it hits a tank, it kills it. It pops up and then dives down onto the top of the tank where the armour is thinnest. No tank would, I think, survive a javelin hit.

Now, where it gets more complicated is the actual hitting bit - western tanks are fitted with active defensive systems like Trophy, which makes it much more difficult for the missile to actually hit the tank.

The Russians do have similar systems, but only a small percentage of their tanks are fitted with them - mostly it's just bits of steel welded on, logs tried on, or bits of rubber glued on.

None of which have the slightest effect. You may as well put some sellotape across your front bumper and then drive into a block of flats at 90mph...
 
Got me and Mrs Voltz's tickets for next month's Tank Fest

Really looking forward to seeing a Tiger tank in the metal
I so wish my boy showed even the slightest hint of interest in that sort of thing. He does not contain the Engineer gene in any way, and I don't really want to go on my own. :(
He did get some enjoyment out of Belfast, but that's a couple hours in London. I don't think he'd put up with a full day out in nowheres-ville.
 
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