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hibee said:
I'm very envious of Chuck, my branch in the 90s was basically orientated around the local university and the strongest thing being drunk at any meeting was hot water with a slice of lemon. Except by me.

However, I was given a dressing down by a full timer who found out I'd shagged half the female students in the branch. Bad for morale apparantly (wasn't bad for mine).
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One out two, its still a result(sorry im listening to the macc lads at the momment- what would the cc say!, don't mention the romper stomper vid)
 
bad spelling and other impedements to revolution

MC5 said:
Workers power is the 'polotical' party for you girl. Let us know how you get on forming those 'workers malitias' you talk about?

Oh, I blame those terrible comprihensive schools. They just don't teach kids how to get on do they.
Well im sending Giles and Tiggy to a nice public school, hopefully when they get to university they will join the Socialist Workers Party and help liberate those poor proleterians.
You know some of them cant even spell political party never mind form one of their own. Thats why they need petit bourgeois drop outs to show them the way to liberation. It's such a burden, pass the wine dear.
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I can remember at one Marxism in the late 80s or early 90s where I'd turned up early with a mate to a meeting Hallas was giving. Hallas had turned up early too. There were very few people in the hall, hallas finished off one bottle of Newcie Brown, carried it into the wings where he thought he couldn't be seen, lobbed his dick out and had a lag in it..... :D

My current partner lived in the flat above Hallas for years - numerous tales of him going out to do the gardemn when pissed, falling over in the rose beds and having to be dragged back indoors.....
 
Patty said:
MC5 said:
Workers power is the 'polotical' party for you girl. Let us know how you get on forming those 'workers malitias' you talk about?

Oh, I blame those terrible comprihensive schools. They just don't teach kids how to get on do they.
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I wouldn't know, I went to a shit hole called a secondary modern. Now why don't you do the world a favour and go top yourself.
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Groucho said:
He also felt that the alcoholism of cc member for years Duncan Hallas to have had a dreadful affect on the man and to have seriously weakened his contribution and health. Both fare points.
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Can't agree there Groucho. Cliff was right on many things but if he'd managed to rob the world of the genius that was a drunken Ducan Hallas he would have been gravely at fault. My best memories of time spent with other swpers is listening to Duncan in a house after a night on the lash. Profound doesn't get close. Mind you that might have been the political version of beer goggles at work :)
 
bolshiebhoy said:
Can't agree there Groucho. Cliff was right on many things but if he'd managed to rob the world of the genius that was a drunken Ducan Hallas he would have been gravely at fault. My best memories of time spent with other swpers is listening to Duncan in a house after a night on the lash. Profound doesn't get close. Mind you that might have been the political version of beer goggles at work :)
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Tales of Duncan's drinking are many and quite a few of them are very funny. But in fairness to the man he was troubled. He was also a revolutionary socialist unlike most of the ****ing **** currently inhabiting the SWP leading circles these days. I'd suggest a read of the obituary Nigel Harris wrote in Revolutionary History. Sadly drink cannot mend a broken heart.
 
I spent at least three years looking at various IS/SWP posters that had a picture of Marx on advertising talks by Duncan Hallas. You can imagine my surprise when I went to see said talk he looked nothing like the bloke with the beard on the posters.

I once had to meet Hallas off the train for a branch meeting.As he opened the carriage door an empty beer can bounced onto the platform and ignoring my offer of tea time /early evening snack we made our way to the pub. He was billed to talk about why the Labour left wouldn't fight but after arguing with a local priest who was in the pub changed it to a talk on religion twenty minutes before the meeting was to start. He made some illegible notes on the back of his packet of twenty fags (which were those old flat packs) and was sensational.
 
bolshiebhoy said:
Can't agree there Groucho. Cliff was right on many things but if he'd managed to rob the world of the genius that was a drunken Ducan Hallas he would have been gravely at fault. My best memories of time spent with other swpers is listening to Duncan in a house after a night on the lash. Profound doesn't get close. Mind you that might have been the political version of beer goggles at work :)
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It is certainly true that Hallas could deliver a fantastic public meeting after drinking to the point where many of us would be slurring incomprehensively.
 
Chuck Wilson said:
He made some illegible notes on the back of his packet of twenty fags (which were those old flat packs) and was sensational.
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That's just it. He was one of those great working class marxists who has made the ideas so much a part of themselves that they slip effortlessly between a chat at the bar into a public meeting and then back to the chat at the bar without missing a heartbeat. A very human bloke who was very aware of people and where they were coming from. The first time I met him, I'd seen him months before, speaking at Marxism '86. I can't remember now what it was on but I know it was one of the bigger rooms but when I met him he said "ah yes comrade, you didn't agree with what I had to say on X at Marxism did you, shaking your head all the way through!" Then spent an hour or so patiently winning me over.
 
bolshiebhoy said:
You're kidding? The same Bambi who used to sit through caucuses doodling Gunners shite on his notepad.
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I heard Bambery make the same comment about Brazil never having had a black captain at Marxism in what must have been 1998 - as it was a world cup year. He was laying into the idea of supporting Brazil as some sort of progressive thing.

The guy in front of me had a 'Brasil' shirt on, and he didn't know where to look, as a fine drizzle of Bambery's spittle rained down on us.
 
roger rosewall said:
Tales of Duncan's drinking are many and quite a few of them are very funny. But in fairness to the man he was troubled. He was also a revolutionary socialist unlike most of the ****ing **** currently inhabiting the SWP leading circles these days. I'd suggest a read of the obituary Nigel Harris wrote in Revolutionary History. Sadly drink cannot mend a broken heart.
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This isn't online so is there any chance of someone scanning or typing it in for those who don't have access to back copies of Revolutionary History?
 
cogg said:
This isn't online so is there any chance of someone scanning or typing it in for those who don't have access to back copies of Revolutionary History?
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RH is placed on line when issues go out of print. The issue concerned is still in print contact Barry Buitekant via the web site. it's quite cheap and has bags of good stuff.

New issue just out on 1905 btw.
 
Barry posts on here as it goes.

I'll type it up if Barry doesn't have a copy.

And yes, the best trotskyist journal going. By some distance.
 
Nigel Irritable said:
The don't support England line always makes me laugh out loud. Can Bolshie or Flypanam tell us if the Irish SWP have a similar don't support Ireland policy?
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there is no line on it. Most don't though. internationalism and all that.
 
Pickman's model said:
so who do you support in the football? eh? :mad:
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fuck me all these :mad: not sucking enuff shite out of a dogs arse or summat?

who do i support, west ham international football is bollix imo. but if i'm gonna support a team it will be anyone who's playing england.
 
bolshiebhoy said:
except for the misnamed Norn Iron of course :p

Course there's no line on this, be daft if there was.
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Thats the monaghan connection champ even if they are ompaa lumpaas ulster is ulster.
 
Indeed matey. Not forgetting 'Dun na nGall'. It always seemed perverse how on visting my ex's home in Donegal which was further north than much of the six counties we had to cross a border into 'Northern Ireland' and back out again to get there :rolleyes:
 
flypanam said:
why?
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It had never occurred to me before this thread that the Irish SWP shared that particularly "quirk" of the British SWP. Are the Irish lot planning on abolishing competitive sport under socialism too?
 
well first of there is no rule about it, some are a bit nuts about the national taem, others like myself could not give a flying fuck about it and some don't cos they are internationalists.

i'd be surprised it it was not the same in the SP.

unless you lot all have to support shelbourne. in which case id gouge my eyes out.

and i don't believe anyone has ever said getting rid of competitive sports or boozers.
 
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