Pickman's model said:better than being one, eh, fanta?
Well you would know! But chin up, maybe* one day you'll only sound like one rather than actually being one.
*Note that word 'maybe'
Pickman's model said:better than being one, eh, fanta?
knopf said:Surely the core question is, is this rioting an instance of the working class in struggle in France?
ClassWar said:Youth in cities as far as Brussels and Berlin have shown their support - it is time we did the same.
the last time i was on a 73, i saw no one eating italian bread or drinking wine. and it only ran from stokey to victoria.revol68 said:Of course the Class War hypothesis magically overlooks the fact that working class people eat italian breads, drink wine and ride the 73 bus.
revol68 said:ride the 73 bus.
tobyjug said:Anyone trying burn my car is liable to get beaten to death with a crowbar.
I suggest your analysis of the problems in France is very flawed.
and more are joining them every day since it became free!sihhi said:
Lots of working-class people ride the 73 bus every day??
so who are you going to get to join you?revol68 said:no i think what the UK really needs is a bunch of gobshites pretending they suffer the same marginalisation and discrimination as the youth in French suburbs smashing up their neighbours cars and trying to set the local corner shop alight.
knopf said:Surely the core question is, is this rioting an instance of the working class in struggle in France?
You mean its not all meat pies and beer? perhaps you should stop using middle class like its an alternative word for 'twat' on these boards then.revol68 said:Of course the Class War hypothesis magically overlooks the fact that working class people eat italian breads, drink wine and ride the 73 bus.
montevideo said:your shooter in for repairs?
i didn't know you had a car - i thought you were a biker through & through.tobyjug said:I have not had any firearms for years now. (In any case I used to carry out my own repairs)
Pickman's model said:i didn't know you had a car - i thought you were a biker through & through.
tobyjug said:Anyhow back to the thread exactly who are these idiots inciting people into criminal behaviour by copycating French rioters?
tobyjug said:Anyhow back to the thread exactly who are these idiots inciting people into criminal behaviour by copycating French rioters?
tobyjug said:who are these idiots inciting people into criminal behaviour by copycating French rioters?
rednblack said:please provide evidence for your allegations of incitement
tobyjug said:From the first message in this thread:- "Over 300 French towns and cities have now seen riots against the police and the government. More will follow.
Youth in cities as far as Brussels and Berlin have shown their support - it is time we did the same."
Incitement to riot is a criminal offence.
icepick said:While the concerns are legitimate - lots of the rioters are burning their fellow workers' cars, destroying public resources and attacking their fellow workers. You can't give that "unconditional" support, and you can't present the whole thing as "class war" on the streets. It's fucking ridiculous.
newbie said:Are the rioters really 'fellow workers'? That's not the impression I've gained.
Taxamo Welf said:*TBH unless the wombles go i doubt there will be a banner but.
I'm using the socialist/anarchist definition: worker meaning working class - has to sell their labour power, doesn't live off property income.newbie said:Are the rioters really 'fellow workers'? That's not the impression I've gained.
I didn't think you were that into banners...?Paul Marsh said:What is that supposed to mean?
Really? I thought that was the classical marxist view and things had gone beyond that. That would make teachers working class. Are they?icepick said:I'm using the socialist/anarchist definition: worker meaning working class - has to sell their labour power, doesn't live off property income.
yeah i totally support their case,chegrimandi said:because they are protesting against the shite conditions they are forced to live in - they are protesting against poverty and discrimination and years of crap immigration policy.
Abuse from ministers in the press, foced to live in poverty stricken conditions, police hounding their kids to death.....thats why they should be supported.