Stockwell Skate Park, Network Homes and the BRX/SO BRX development
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Twattor
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Did the skate park get scheduled as a community asset?
Twattor
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Could "active elderly" simply mean over 50s housing? (although I know a few over fifties who may be a bit unhappy about this generic description). Irrespective of the specifics, older people and the noise of skateboards crashing around rarely mix well.
Manter
Lunch Mob
I think you do them a disservice tbh. For a start a modern triple glazed flat will keep that noise out almost completely, but I also don't think it's fair to say 'older' people are less tolerant of noise than, say, someone studying, or parents of your children.
Twattor
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Acknowledged, but you'll only get triple glazing where the pre-planning noise reports have identified a noise nuisance and the planning department specify performance as a condition, which basically is only if you live over a dual carriageway. A 24 hour adjusted survey will show no discernable noise from the skatepark. It will come down to complaints over intimidation, drug use etc.; things difficult to pin down but which will require police response and which in turn will discourage use.
FOSS
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Our shop is here: http://friendsofstockwellskatepark.bigcartel.com/
Hope it's alright posting that here.
Our shop is here: http://friendsofstockwellskatepark.bigcartel.com/
Hope it's alright posting that here.
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hiraethified
If you manage to finish that piece for Buzz, we can add a plug for the t-shirts at the bottom.
Tricky Skills
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Genuine question: who currently lives at Thrayle House, and where will they live once the new development is built? Council tenants?
FOSS
Active Member
Nobody lives there now they all got moved on. I've really no idea what's to become if the ex-residents. I've not seen any promises of rehousing here like they keep mentioning regards Cressingham. There are 70 odd flats in Thrayle now. Pretty sure some were in private ownership at least at some point, I saw titles mentioning the sale of one of them. I get the impression they moved most of the longer term tenants a while ago and that it was mostly short term tenants left t the end of it but I could be wrong. There were a couple if not more squats right at the end too If I'm not mistaken, I saw someone on twitter mentioning accompanying police to an eviction there. It was that CoE guy that writes in the Guardian... I'm seeing someone later who'll know much better about this. They're questions we raised but never got answered.
FOSS
Active Member
Planning is back on the table, validated Nov 17th, notices posted Dec 3rd, objection due just a week today.
Basically the plans are the same but with bigger buildings now.
We're currently getting mugged off at every turn.
Details here, more to follow:
15/04500/FUL | Redevelopment of Thrayle House for residential-led mixed use development up to 20 storeys, comprising 177 homes (Class C3), and 1,358 sq m of flexible retail (Class A1 and A2) and community space (Class D1). | Thrayle House Benedict Road London SW9 0XU
Please comment and keep any objections relevant to your position... thanks
Basically the plans are the same but with bigger buildings now.
We're currently getting mugged off at every turn.
Details here, more to follow:
15/04500/FUL | Redevelopment of Thrayle House for residential-led mixed use development up to 20 storeys, comprising 177 homes (Class C3), and 1,358 sq m of flexible retail (Class A1 and A2) and community space (Class D1). | Thrayle House Benedict Road London SW9 0XU
Please comment and keep any objections relevant to your position... thanks
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
Some key facts:
affordable units: 81, total ~5,500m²
private units: 96, total 6,000m²
tenures break down like this:
Social: 16x1bed, 17x2bed, 2x3bed, 6x4bed = 41 units
Active Elderly (1 or 2 bed): 40 units (I don't know what this means)
Market: 58x1bed, 29x2bed = 87 units
affordable units: 81, total ~5,500m²
private units: 96, total 6,000m²
tenures break down like this:
Social: 16x1bed, 17x2bed, 2x3bed, 6x4bed = 41 units
Active Elderly (1 or 2 bed): 40 units (I don't know what this means)
Market: 58x1bed, 29x2bed = 87 units
DietCokeGirl
Fishing in the rivers of life
Objection added.
FOSS
Active Member
Active elderly - old folks without nurses basically. Whether that counts as social or not I don't know. It would be interesting to know as the Community Interest Levy payment that the developers have to pay Lambeth is based of the floor area of residential buildings but we don't know what that is. That CiL money is promised to the skatepark. Thanks for all the objections so far.
editor
hiraethified
Bit confused here. Is this actual social - as in council tenancy rates - or the permanently vague 'affordable'?
Angellic
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Page 19 i think
http://planning-docs.lambeth.gov.uk/AnitePublicDocs/00578040.pdf
listing as affordable, private and active elderly
editor
hiraethified
So more of the same unaffordable bollocks then.
Angellic
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It would seem so.
Crispy
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The developer is a HA, and all ex-residents are eligible to return on the same council tenancy. The planning statement expllicitly says the intention is to provide social housing for Lambeth's list. Pitchforks on standby, but this one looks much better than most.
Crispy
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Planning statement, page 10 (11 of the PDF)
That accounts for all 41 Affordable units as listed on page 19 (23 of the PDF) of the Design Statement. 16x 1bed, 17x2bed, 4 houses and 4 duplexes.
The Active Elderly Affordable units are ambiguous to me. Quite what they're for I don't understand - Council or HA or subsidised market rent? I don't know. Someone with more experience of the HA sector needs to weigh in here.
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Angellic
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I wonder what happens if the original residents don't return.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Older people are not subject to the benefit caps. So basically you can charge a lot knowing it will be paid through benefits if needed.
Social rent is not the same as Council target rent. If existing households keep there right to social rent the effect could be same as at Guiness Trust. With new tenants paying the higher "affordable" rent.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
sorry, got to ask, what's JB?
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