Should Gareth Southgate stay on as England manager after the Euro 2024 final?

[Lord Camomile]

General scuttlebutt for the past couple of weeks seems to suggest he plans to step down whatever the result on Sunday.

However, according to the Guardian he "retains the support of key figures at the FA and there is a desire for him to lead England into the 2026 World Cup".

FA wants Gareth Southgate to stay with England regardless of final result

The Football Association will attempt to keep Gareth Southgate beyond his current contract even if England lose to Spain in the Euro 2024 final on Sunday

www.theguardian.com

I genuinely don't know, feel like there's quite a few arguments in either direction. Which is probably evident by the poll choices

Left it multiple choice to allow for more than one justification, but obviously couldn't cover 'em all.

 

[shifting gears]

Where is the comedy “I still use a potty and I don’t care who knows it” option?

 

[BristolEcho]

I'm pretty sure he is ready to leave and I think it will be the right time for him regardless of the result on Sunday. He's done a great job and although the football hasn't always been amazing he has clearly built a great togetherness. The set up at England that he has created should continue regardless of who the manager is. I really hope he can win on Sunday.

 

[ska invita]

What ever he wants
Obvs should stay if possible. He's done a long stint

 

[Lord Camomile]

I'm pretty sure he is ready to leave and I think it will be the right time for him regardless of the result on Sunday. He's done a great job and although the football hasn't always been amazing he has clearly built a great togetherness. The set up at England that he has created should continue regardless of who the manager is. I really hope he can win on Sunday.

Aye, beyond anything else, I certainly think his greatest achievement, and what I hope his legacy will be (both in terms of what he'll be remembered for and what will actually continue long after whenever he does leave) is changing the mood of the England players/camp.

It's not underselling it to say he's made it far easier to be a fan of the England team again, for me, at least (even if I have been frequently frustrated by the way that team plays...).

 

[Lord Camomile]

Where is the comedy “I still use a potty and I don’t care who knows it” option?

Surely we already have the stats on that by now?

 

[shifting gears]

Surely we already have the splats on that by now?

Speak for yourself

 

[QueenOfGoths]

I think he probably is the best person for the job and he has done it really, really well but I think he should go for his own mental health and well being.

There's only so much beer that can be thrown at you.

 

[AverageJoe]

Tournament football is a completely different game to league football.

Gareth has proved that he is a brilliant tournament manager. He's also proved at Middlesborough that he's a terrible League manager.

He should stay.

 

[two sheds]

I've been a consistent supporter of Southgate and his team's tactics from the start* I vote to stay






* aside from the lack of running around a lot by the forwards so the backs can make killer through passes to them to run on goal and SCORE

 

[ska invita]

As long as his replacement is also woke

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

As long as his replacement is also woke

Get Lineker in.

 

[Fez909]

give it giggsy til the end of the season

 

[ska invita]

Is Ally McCoist free? He'd get the subs on

 

[Petcha]

Considering what he inherited, yes, definitely

 

[Humberto]

Didn't Southgate come up from managing the England U21s? Might work again.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

As long as his replacement is also woke

Actually it's hard to imagine what 'un-woke' would look like in the context of an international manager isn't it. Who's going to come in and scream at a bunch of mediocre white players to get it in the mixer?

Not rating Joey Barton's chances tbh.

 

[Petcha]

Although having half drunk pints of cheap beer hiffed at him by pissed up northerners for the crime of topping the group at the Euros might take it out it of the FA's hands. I'd walk if I was him.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Whether we win or lose, I think there's an argument to keep Southgate on a little longer. This isn't a team/squad that's reached the natural end of an era - Kyle Walker is probably the only currently indispensable player who's maybe looking at this as being his final tournament, what with being 33 and pace being such an asset to him. Trippier as well is getting on a bit, but especially away from his best position I'd say he's less important to the big picture in the long run.

Kane is 30 but has plenty of miles left in him. Stones 29 and getting better and better as his career goes on. Pickford still relatively young in goalkeeping terms.

Bellingham, Saka, Foden, Rice, Mainoo, Guehi, Trent, Palmer, Gallagher, Konsa, Eze, Wharton, all 26 or younger. From a footballing perspective, continuity and allowing this team to grow together into the next world cup makes sense to me.

 

[ska invita]

This is so interesting, Rio talking about the culture in England under Sven vs now. Everything we know about Southgate underlined


Rio's great, love his energy....wish he did more punditry....ETA just seen he has his own podcast (Micah RIchards a bit too hyper for me)

 

[Riklet]

He's not the best manager in football terms but he's an excellent team leader let's say... the atmosphere he has created with England players. The way he has resisted the pressure from the gutter press. And the fact he hasn't given up when so many would have by now.

I honestly don't see who else could do any better currently. They would all be flawed just in different ways. We might even win a fucking final tomorrow... imagine Capello or Woy or Erikson being able to boast of that.

 

[Rebelda]

Want him to stay, he's the right person for the job, but I'm not sure he wants it any more. Which is fair.

 

[stavros]

I want him to work on the Pizza Hut advert sequel.

 

[nightowl]

I know I'm a technomuppet but what's up with the percentages on the poll? Adding up to way over 100.

 

[BigTom]

I know I'm a technomuppet but what's up with the percentages on the poll? Adding up to way over 100.

It's been setup as a multi-selection poll, so some people have selected more than one option.

 

[Gromit]

As a Welshman it’s been amusing watching the ‘he has to go’ transform into the ‘he might bring it home’ and back into the ‘is he the right man?’ journey.

There’s nought fickle as fans.

 

[marty21]

I think he'll go, but I'd prefer him to have one last go - get 10 years in the gig - get to the World Cup, this squad is young (mostly) and this team will improve .

 

[ska invita]

I think he'll go, but I'd prefer him to have one last go - get 10 years in the gig - get to the World Cup, this squad is young (mostly) and this team will improve .

I agree one more WC, though I can well imagine England flopping out hard!!

 

[two sheds]

I just wish they'd played throughout like they did in the final - they could have got used to each other in the team and would likely have won that.

 

[Riklet]

There is really only one reason he should stay - there is no one masochistic and brave enough to replace him.

You have to give him credit... he took us to another final. He gets good results overall. But how anyone can watch that final yesterday and think Southgate is a brilliant manager is beyond me. Brilliant with people. Brilliant compared to the dross we had before. But he had the best players in the whole tournament and that was the best he could do. Slow and ponderous and unambitious and lacking in creativity otherwise.

They were outclassed not because Spains players are per say any better but because their team is a lot better. And team game plan. Their style of play is more engaging and likely to get the crowd going. And what they try and be good at they actually are good at... unlike England with their tactical passing and setting up set pieces and controlling the midfield and not panicking when defending. Not to bash them because they still played well but they basically failed on all of these fronts. When IMO with a better game plan they could have won the game. Ah well!