shit MANarchists say

[frogwoman]

being confused with paediatricians and the dominant symbol of your identity being shit gary glitter records

 

[frogwoman]

ridiculed in episodes of south park

 

[Balbi]

Dirty macs and nhs specs

 

[frogwoman]

you can't even get your computer fixed

 

[Balbi]

PC World gone mad

 

[frogwoman]

Stabbed in the back by organisers of gay pride parades

 

[frogwoman]

removing memorial plaques to jimmy saville in an attempt to wipe out history and distance the privileged from a persecuted minority

 

[Balbi]

Insisting John Peel day be simply a celebration of musical diversity

 

[frogwoman]

they're even banned from wikipedia now, in the ultimate display of age-appropriate attraction privilege

 

[SpookyFrank]

People can be disatisfied with the gender roles society allocates people with their genitals. I'm not the most "manly" man in the world, for example.

But I would not insist that this puts me on a par with "farm workers" as a victim of oppression.

There will be people who feel forced in the closet about this stuff, who feel their oppression more keenly than I do. Perhaps as an objective fact, perhaps not. It is tempting to say that at least some of these people are over-egging it.

All of this.

Not fitting into an artificial dichotomy does not make you an oppressed minority, it just makes you human. Of course some people are genuinely made to suffer because of these things, but you can't just choose to be a victim of oppression because you want to use it as a stick to beat others with.

Unfortunately my views on these issues have been warped by a small handful of utterly dreadful people. I don't think their position on the gender spectrum or their views on gender politics were what made them so dreadful, I think they were just arrogant spoilt tossers who had chosen gender politics as a device for making themselves out to be superior to other people and for generally making trouble for everyone else. But with any contentious issue you will get people who will use it to advance their own agenda, I guess it's wrong to single out gender in that respect.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Bottom line is that my politics starts from what I have in common with people, not what makes me different from them.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Bottom line is that my politics starts from what I have in common with people, not what makes me different from them.

Mine too. Which is why I get wound up by people who deliberately set themselves apart from others.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Mine too. Which is why I get wound up by people who deliberately set themselves apart from others.

I think there's probably a whole host reasons why people do that - a culture of individualism, genuine feelings of alienation, etc.

So getting annoyed is understandable, but unproductive.

Also it seems to be more of an internet thing? Not something I have had to expend much energy on in real life.

 

[Das Uberdog]

just seen this shit on a facebook 'friend's' wall...

Scab bullying is where unionised workers on strike, were justified in attacking, ostracising, the workers who went in their place. Scab labour. What the proud radical left who fetishise this brutal bullying fail to remember is that the nature of inequality was always that 'scabs' would be workers to whom union membership probably wouldnt have been open anyway, or people disadvantaged by race/gender/immigration status. Mens wives, families, and children would be targetted, Many of us will remember the scab bullying of children quite well from the industrial climate of the seventies and eighties. Its been used as a mask for gender violence, racist violence since the Union movements started, THere is quite the left wing mythology about the need to do this now, our elite radical left, mainly white, posh shouty boys, believe that hatred of scabs is an expression of class solidarity and something to be pursued. Most notably with Goldsmiths outing lecturers who they thought were scabbing, during the last strike, I was subjected to weeks of abuse for saying that public sector strikes would not be welcoming of that nonsense. Because actually nurses, teachers, especially social workers, have another priority which is their service users. Just another way for a white male political tribe to express their need to abuse women adopted eagerly by our newly radicalised left in the UK.

October 10 at 7:50pm · Like · 2

 

[Das Uberdog]

shit 'manarchists' say

 

[Citizen66]

That guy is a liberal.

 

[Delroy Booth]

just seen this shit on a facebook 'friend's' wall...

cab bullying is where unionised workers on strike, were justified in attacking, ostracising, the workers who went in their place. Scab labour. What the proud radical left who fetishise this brutal bullying fail to remember is that the nature of inequality was always that 'scabs' would be workers to whom union membership probably wouldnt have been open anyway, or people disadvantaged by race/gender/immigration status. Mens wives, families, and children would be targetted, Many of us will remember the scab bullying of children quite well from the industrial climate of the seventies and eighties. Its been used as a mask for gender violence, racist violence since the Union movements started, THere is quite the left wing mythology about the need to do this now, our elite radical left, mainly white, posh shouty boys, believe that hatred of scabs is an expression of class solidarity and something to be pursued. Most notably with Goldsmiths outing lecturers who they thought were scabbing, during the last strike, I was subjected to weeks of abuse for saying that public sector strikes would not be welcoming of that nonsense. Because actually nurses, teachers, especially social workers, have another priority which is their service users. Just another way for a white male political tribe to express their need to abuse women adopted eagerly by our newly radicalised left in the UK.

Oh god I recognise that awful writing style, please tell me it's not her still going on about that...

 

[Das Uberdog]

and now she's backed up by a new generation of identity politics whackos

 

[butchersapron]

What the proud radical left who fetishise this brutal bullying fail to remember is that the nature of inequality was always that 'scabs' would be workers to whom union membership probably wouldnt have been open anyway

Why would they want to remember something that's so manifestly untrue?

 

[Balbi]

What they fail to remember is that if we go back long enough in time the were no unions, and so their structure is a hegemonic imprint onto the freedoms of individuals, crushing class, gender, race and all others beneath its subs payment, tea and biscuits meeting heel.

 

[Das Uberdog]

i think you're brashly overlooking the tremendous oppression meted out by patriarchal white male union members down the centuries against black, queer-anarchist vegans in the history of the European Trade Union movement.

 

[butchersapron]

First they came for the scabs and i did nothing.

 

[rekil]

I was wondering what that weird stuff was doing on the twitter machine feed. PD should definitely take a firm pro-scab position.

 

[Delroy Booth]

After all, it's not like the bosses have ever been racist, or cynically used racism to divide the workers during times of struggle. Oh no, never, only the workers are racist, after all.

 

[cesare]

Look at that lunatic fuckwit writing that stuff! Look! Proof that nothing they say is worth looking at! There! Right there!

 

[frogwoman]

I was wondering what that weird stuff was doing on the twitter machine feed. PD should definitely take a firm pro-scab position.

I feel another split coming on. A firm pro-scab position? I don't think so. Scabs must be the human guinea pigs on which we test the workers' bomb

 

[Das Uberdog]

Look at that lunatic fuckwit writing that stuff! Look! Proof that nothing they say is worth looking at! There! Right there!

she's not on the margins when it comes to these groups

ETA - to push this point, she posted this on a thread on the wall of the former UCLAN SU president, without a single comment challenging this position from the 7 or so others posting (infact they were in agreement, as was the former SU President).

 

[butchersapron]

Are you still a student then hooverbag?

 

[Das Uberdog]

no, this is all a social hangover

ETA - here's the same SU president noted above refusing to send delegations to NCAFC's demonstrations against fees and the repeal of EMA last year because they weren't seen as safe spaces for disabled students

 

[cesare]

no, this is all a social hangover

ETA - here's the same SU president noted above refusing to send delegations to NCAFC's demonstrations against fees and the repeal of EMA last year because they weren't seen as safe spaces for disabled students

That article doesn't sound as if was just a "safe space" issue, more like an organisational one.

Two weeks before the demonstration we had absolutely no idea about where the demonstration was actually going, where the coaches should drop students off. We were told a vague area and now they’re telling us something different.”