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Mrs SI insists she's following the Tier 3 rules but I think she's wrong. Daughter goes to Mrs SI's parents three evenings a week for childcare which is fine.

But I didn't think Mrs SI was allowed to go into her folks' house when she picks her up. And just five mins ago her da came round to take son to the gym and just walked into ours and started fussing the dogs. :confused:
 
Anyone got any any idea about time stamping of PCR tests? We have some to return for testing that must be taken 72 hrs before our arrival in Tenerife at 14:30 on Friday 18th. If I do the kids at 7:30am, on Tuesday 15th, instead of after 14:30, will anyone know? The alternative is to do Wednesday morning, but that leaves us buggering around hoping the tests results are late back.....
 
Hoping someone knows about this delaying the second jab. My mam is due her second one in a week and has an appointment, is this likely to be cancelled? She's 85 and shielding so if it does happen we might club our cash together and see if we can get her second one private as it's stressing our family to bits trying to keep her safe.
 
krink said:
Hoping someone knows about this delaying the second jab. My mam is due her second one in a week and has an appointment, is this likely to be cancelled? She's 85 and shielding so if it does happen we might club our cash together and see if we can get her second one private as it's stressing our family to bits trying to keep her safe.
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Yes it's likely to be rescheduled and no you can't get it privately. The first jab will have had a strong protective effect itself, the second one is really to try and extend that long-term.
 
New study on mask wearing:

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Key Summary Points
Masks and face coverings, if widely worn, may substantially reduce the spread of COVID-19.

The benefits of mask wearing seem to outweigh the harms when COVID-19 is spreading in a population.

Randomized trials are sparse and have not addressed the question of source control.

Psychological effects of masks are culturally framed and shape acceptance and adherence.

Mandated masking involves a tradeoff with personal freedom.

www.acpjournals.org

Masks and Face Coverings for the Lay Public: A Narrative Update: Annals of Internal Medicine: Vol 174, No 4

Whether and when to mandate the wearing of facemasks in the community to prevent the spread of coronavirus disease 2019 remains controversial. Published literature across disciplines about the role of masks in mitigating severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) transmission...
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These fucking scammers. Wife who is shielding because of her diabetes and other conditions, received a text linking to the NHS site an hour ago. Inviting her to apply for a vaccine and to give card details to confirm who she is. Anyone less savvy could have fallen for it. Hope any cunt behind these scams fucking dies.
 
not a trot said:
These fucking scammers. Wife who is shielding because of her diabetes and other conditions, received a text linking to the NHS site an hour ago. Inviting her to apply for a vaccine and to give card details to confirm who she is. Anyone less savvy could have fallen for it. Hope any cunt behind these scams fucking dies.
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Yeah, I've had one of those - by email ...
 
www.theguardian.com

Recovering from Covid gives similar level of protection to vaccine

PHE found immunity from earlier infection provided 83% protection against reinfection for at least 20 weeks
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People who recover from coronavirus have a similar level of protection against future infection as those who receive a Covid vaccine – at least for the first five months, research suggests.

A Public Health England (PHE) study of more than 20,000 healthcare workers found that immunity acquired from an earlier Covid infection provided 83% protection against reinfection for at least 20 weeks.

The findings show that while people are unlikely to become reinfected soon after their first infection, it is possible to catch the virus again and potentially spread it to others.
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Over the five months the researchers monitored infection rates in the two groups. They spotted 44 potential reinfections, including 13 symptomatic, among the 6,614 believed to have had Covid before, and 318 cases among the 14,173 who had no evidence of past infection. A previous infection, they conclude, provides 94% protection against symptomatic reinfection, and 75% protection against asymptomatic reinfection.

The cases are referred to as “potential” reinfections because a detailed genetic analysis of both first and second viruses must be done to confirm a reinfection, but information for the first infections was often not available.

“The immunity gives you a similar effect to the Pfizer vaccine and a much better effect than the AstraZeneca vaccine and that is reassuring for people. But we still see people who could transmit and so we want to strike a note of caution,” Prof Hopkins said. In clinical trials, two doses of the Pfizer vaccinehad an efficacy of 95%, compared with 62% from two doses of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine.

While the study is encouraging, it is unclear whether the same protection applies to older people. The study participants were aged 35 to 54 and would be expected to have robust immune systems. Older people tend to have weaker immune responses that are more short-lived.

Another question mark hangs over the risk of reinfection from new Covid variants spotted in the UK, South Africa and Brazil, an issue PHE will investigate as the study continues this year.
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In what way zahir ? do you mean all the "sometimes" that are mentioned?

Fatigue does seem far more common than sometimes from most reporting...though "sometimes" is a very vague term
 
Hyperdark said:
In what way zahir ? do you mean all the "sometimes" that are mentioned?

Fatigue does seem far more common than sometimes from most reporting...though "sometimes" is a very vague term
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Partly that. Fatigue is definitely a common symptom. What jumped out at me though was describing a "runny/stuffy nose" as "rare". My initial symptoms were mild fatigue and nasal/sinus congestion - so I suppose that would be a stuffy but not runny nose. Again, as I understand it, this is a common symptom. I think the graphic risks encouraging people to self-diagnose inaccurately and not self-isolate or get a test when really they should do.
 
Can someone put my anxious mind at ease please? If you've got a husband and wife, and the wife is in a bubble with her mother, the husband can't make another bubble with his mother can he? I'm sure it's what the website says but I'm that stressed I just need someone to confirm please (I'm on my own). Thank you.
 
krink said:
Can someone put my anxious mind at ease please? If you've got a husband and wife, and the wife is in a bubble with her mother, the husband can't make another bubble with his mother can he? I'm sure it's what the website says but I'm that stressed I just need someone to confirm please (I'm on my own). Thank you.
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Assuming the husband and wife live together, they can only form a support bubble with one other household (usually the other household needs to be a single person living alone but there's a few exceptions).
 
Interesting info here about photographers working in a lockdown

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Taking photos during the covid-19 lockdown...

Interesting articles here providing guidance for photographers during the lockdown: Professional photography A ‘reasonable excuse’ includes for work purposes, where you are unable to work from home. Therefore, if you are a professional photographer, it is permissible for you to travel for...
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iona said:
Assuming the husband and wife live together, they can only form a support bubble with one other household (usually the other household needs to be a single person living alone but there's a few exceptions).
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Sounds unreasonable to me. I still visit with my brother’s and my sister’s families. Can’t see how it’s possible to do any different, though I guess this is about children rather than just adults
 
Orang Utan said:
Sounds unreasonable to me. I still visit with my brother’s and my sister’s families. Can’t see how it’s possible to do any different, though I guess this is about children rather than just adults
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You don't go and visit them? :confused:
 
Orang Utan said:
Sounds unreasonable to me. I still visit with my brother’s and my sister’s families. Can’t see how it’s possible to do any different, though I guess this is about children rather than just adults
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That's the rules for support bubbles (support bubbles being people you're allowed to visit, stay overnight with, generally act as if you're part of the same household). There's other rules for childcare bubbles that I've never looked up coz they're not relevant to me. Sure, a few people will have complicated situations that mean they can't stick exactly to those rules but "unreasonable" and "[not] possible to do any different [than breaking those rules]"??
 
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