So what do you suggest? If people have a negative PCR, they act like it was positive? In which case, what's the point of having a PCR test? Why not just rely on the positive LFT?
(Not really sure why it depresses you tbh.
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(Not really sure why it depresses you tbh.
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Recently I tested positive (2 very faint lines) on 2 x LFT the same day, but then negative on PCR the same day and subsequently negative on LFT - I may have been wrong but then assumed I was clear and went about and have continued to go about my business as usual.So what do you suggest? If people have a negative PCR, they act like it was positive? In which case, what's the point of having a PCR test? Why not just rely on the positive LFT?
(Not really sure why it depresses you tbh.
elbows
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People should indeed consider the possibility that they have it and could transmit it to others.So what do you suggest? If people have a negative PCR, they act like it was positive? In which case, what's the point of having a PCR test? Why not just rely on the positive LFT?
(Not really sure why it depresses you tbh.
I'm not being some extreme weirdo by saying this. Here is the article the last tweet I posted linked to:
It depresses me because its one of the holes in our defences and ability to reduce transmission. And because I'd hoped more people were aware of it.
What’s the value of a confirmatory PCR test? | David Spiegelhalter and Anthony Masters
A positive lateral flow test, followed by a negative PCR, still means a reasonable chance of Covid-19
People are doing what's been asked of them and have been told they're good to go after a negative PCR test so it's not surprising they're unaware of that ^.People should indeed consider the possibility that they have it and could transmit it to others.
I'm not being some extreme weirdo by saying this. Here is the article the last tweet I posted linked to:
It depresses me because its one of the holes in our defences and ability to reduce transmission. And because I'd hoped more people were aware of it.
What’s the value of a confirmatory PCR test? | David Spiegelhalter and Anthony Masters
A positive lateral flow test, followed by a negative PCR, still means a reasonable chance of Covid-19www.theguardian.com
And I imagine many employers would give you very short shrift if you didn't go into work as you had a positive LFT, followed by a negative PCR but tell them you think you might have it anyway...
elbows
Well-Known Member
I can only point to the sort of numbers given in that Guardian article. Your PCR test may have been a false negative. The LFT could have been a false positive. But there is a difference between the estimated chances of each of those. Taken together, there is estimated to be a greater chance that you had Covid than that you didnt, but its still possible you didnt.
Cloo
Banana for scale
Thanks, that's useful to knowPeople should indeed consider the possibility that they have it and could transmit it to others.
I'm not being some extreme weirdo by saying this. Here is the article the last tweet I posted linked to:
It depresses me because its one of the holes in our defences and ability to reduce transmission. And because I'd hoped more people were aware of it.
What’s the value of a confirmatory PCR test? | David Spiegelhalter and Anthony Masters
A positive lateral flow test, followed by a negative PCR, still means a reasonable chance of Covid-19
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
What's the latest on vaccines preventing long Covid or limiting it? I think that's both me and wife's biggest concern right now. Both triple jabbed and impatient to start actually doing things again.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
I think it's too early to tell - it certainly hasn't featured heavily on the forums I follow ...
I don't see being triple-jabbed as any reason to take my mask off or get close to people - even my own family any time soon.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
something on the MSM/TV news tonight about boosters waning by 15/25% after 10/12 weeks from UKHSA.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
It’s in the Your Health section
I don't see that section. Have I got the wrong app? I have: check into venue, check symptoms, testing, enter test result, settings, about this app, ,manage contact tracing.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
That’s the NHS Covid App, not the NHS App - that has your Covid Passport and vaccine record on it.
Ah. Yes, I did think I might have the wrong one. Thanks, will take a look as taking the youngest to see a play.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I think the NHS Covid app is just for tracking contacts. I’ve only just turned mine on since getting a new phone ages ago - no wonder I never get pinged
I didn't have mine on and couldn't understand why everyone was getting time off work except me before the summerI think the NHS Covid app is just for tracking contacts. I’ve only just turned mine on since getting a new phone ages ago - no wonder I never get pinged
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existentialist
Tired and unemotional
You can go to the government site and get a PDF of your vaccination status, which you can either print out, or carry on your phone.
Do you mean instantly? Which is this government site you speak of please?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Thinking about it, it's nhs.uk, not a .gov site. But then if your registration isn't validated on the app, it probably won't be on the site, either
Perhaps an Urbanite near you has a spare LFT?
I can probably get an LFT if I have to from our neighbourhood Whatsapp group. It's just all a bit of a hassle, especially as the event is outdoors.Thinking about it, it's nhs.uk, not a .gov site. But then if your registration isn't validated on the app, it probably won't be on the site, either
Perhaps an Urbanite near you has a spare LFT?
Cloo
Banana for scale
So I'm using an FFP2 mask when I'm going to be anywhere enclosed for more than 10-15 mins. Not going out for that long that often but I don't like the waste - I saw some advice online, but don't know how reputable it is, suggesting you can put one in a dated envelope and reuse one every 5 days (presumably to avoid risk of infectious particles being present inside). Anyobe know if there is any reason not to do this to save waste?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I used FFP2 exclusively now, and rotate 4 or 5. I don't do the envelope thing, though - just hang them in my "hall" (stairwell)
elbows
Well-Known Member
This is the website where people over 50 or with one of the listed medical conditions can sign up to get antivirals if they catch covid these days:
www.panoramictrial.org
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Cloo
Banana for scale
Thanks, have passed on to my parents and in-laws. I can imagine my folks might be interested in participating - also they're waiting to see if they catch it as their cleaner found out she had COVID a few days after visiting them this weekThis is the website where people over 50 or with one of the listed medical conditions can sign up to get antivirals if they catch covid these days:
Homepage — PANORAMIC
Mation
real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold
We've all been given CO² monitors for our classrooms, as only a couple have windows that can be opened. Ventilation comes from air conditioning units that draw from outside rather than recirculate.
The advice is that, if we see readings going up over 1500 parts per million (ppm), we should definitely open the door to purge the room, and should consider doing so between 800-1500 ppm. Below 800 ppm, an occupied room is considered to be well-ventilated (though not necessarily sufficiently so), assuming the monitor is placed correctly, at head height when seated, away from doors/windows/drafts/noses and mouths, and the room is of the right sort of size for readings to be meaningful (which our classrooms are).
I plan to keep the door open as much as possible, but forsee that there will be times when it would be useful to shut out distraction, given my exceedingly distractible learners. My worry is that purging the room won't be that protective if we're exposed to a repeated build-up of exhalations (that may contain the virus) in between purges.
Anyone know about using CO ² monitors as a control measure, rather than as a flag for improving ventilation more permanently?
The advice is that, if we see readings going up over 1500 parts per million (ppm), we should definitely open the door to purge the room, and should consider doing so between 800-1500 ppm. Below 800 ppm, an occupied room is considered to be well-ventilated (though not necessarily sufficiently so), assuming the monitor is placed correctly, at head height when seated, away from doors/windows/drafts/noses and mouths, and the room is of the right sort of size for readings to be meaningful (which our classrooms are).
I plan to keep the door open as much as possible, but forsee that there will be times when it would be useful to shut out distraction, given my exceedingly distractible learners. My worry is that purging the room won't be that protective if we're exposed to a repeated build-up of exhalations (that may contain the virus) in between purges.
Anyone know about using CO ² monitors as a control measure, rather than as a flag for improving ventilation more permanently?
