RedDragon
"I am not one of your fans!"
what? don't blame me for their deliberate stitch-up.
Royal Mail sale around the corner?
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spliff
New Member
I don't think, at this late stage you're going to be able to stop it being privatised. Certainly not by the tactics you mentioned above.
TNT has sucked RM dry over the last few years, they won contracts to deliver mail for British Gas, BT even HMRC and most major banks but have no obligation (as RM does) to actually deliver the mail. TNT delivers the mail to sorting offices for proper postmen to deliver.
I would be really interested to see the contracts between the two parties seeing as TNT makes the money and RM does the final legwork.
spliff
New Member
The Post Office and Royal Mail are different companies.Who's going to be insane enough to spend £750 on Post Office shares.
magneze
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Fez909
toilet expert
I'm not blaming you.
It's just not too late.
Agreed.
Strike is going ahead, why can't customers do their bit too? Fuck up the share price to make the sale politically impossible.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Strike ballot hasn't even been carried out yet!
Fez909
toilet expert
Has it not? Shit, sorry. Didn't read the article properly earlier
It's surely going to happen, though?
spliff
New Member
Going back to TNT briefly ...This:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Abeles
and this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nugan_Hand_Bank
make me think they're shady as fuck and always have been.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Abeles
and this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nugan_Hand_Bank
make me think they're shady as fuck and always have been.
Fez909
toilet expert
TNT not happy about it, unsurprisingly
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/royal-mail/10303689/Royal-Mail-privatisation-Government-confirms-flotation-within-weeks.html said:
They're using it to try to negotiate a more favourable VAT rate.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The ballot or the result being a vote for a strike? The ballot is happening right now - hard to gauge the outcome though. I only know posties very opposed to the sell-off who will vote for a strike, but then i only know them through political stuff, they may not be representative. The posties forum i linked to earlier is a mixed bag.Has it not? Shit, sorry. Didn't read the article properly earlier
It's surely going to happen, though?
Fez909
toilet expert
Hmm, I've just read that the proposed strike is for the Christmas period. Fair enough, that's when it'll have the most effect in terms of disruption, but why wait? This is more urgent than that, surely? Plus posties aren't going to want to lose pay over Christmas of all times.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
they won't because people like you and me will make donations to their cause.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
very droll
Fez909
toilet expert
Yeah, fair enough. There has to be more we can do though. I don't believe it's a done deal and there's nothing can happen to change it.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
if you're going to send insulting letters to the government remember to use another carrier so it doesn't get stuck in the post
Fez909
toilet expert
And you called butchers droll?
No, I wasn't planning on insulting the government, btw. It's ineffectual. I was thinking of ways to cause disruption to the postal service; not relying on it for a protest.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
Is there any failsafe way to discern who has been bribing, lobbying, cadjoling for position and terms of this sell off?
chances are it's shot through with corruption and personal greed - but how would specifics be established?
chances are it's shot through with corruption and personal greed - but how would specifics be established?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
have you tried reading the financial times etc?
something wrong here, petition only gone up 500 all day, there is truly massive opposition to this, from all areas,
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
Can't say I have. Isn't the online version behind a paywall? I would expect some clues there rather than specifics. Private Eye might be the best for specifics, but even that's no guarantee. A lot of this stuff is deliberately opaque at best.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
The cunts in charge never have to deal with private couriers and all the bullshit that entails. They have staff to deal with such matters, and the au pair is always in to receive packages so no need to spend hours on a bus out to a sorting office* in fucking Dagenham or wherever.
They really haven't a fucking clue what living is like, have they? I bet not a single member of the cabinet has ever queued up in a sorting office.
*One acknowledged likely outcome is the closure of many sorting offices in 'prime locations' (e.g. cities) by the new owners to sell off the land, basic asset stripping, with fewer collection locations in the arse end of nowhere.
They really haven't a fucking clue what living is like, have they? I bet not a single member of the cabinet has ever queued up in a sorting office.
*One acknowledged likely outcome is the closure of many sorting offices in 'prime locations' (e.g. cities) by the new owners to sell off the land, basic asset stripping, with fewer collection locations in the arse end of nowhere.
Labour could kill this stone dead by saying they'd immediately renationalise it. Why haven't they?
That's so middle class; these people have nannies for their children. And personal assistants to shield them from we proles.
That's so middle class; these people have nannies for their children. And personal assistants to shield them from we proles.
I've signed, the figure's over 6000 now. But 38 Degrees doesn't exactly have high visibility.
Fez909
toilet expert
Because they don't need to. And they don't particular care either way.
They'll argue against it because they know it's unpopular, but it doesn't matter to them. Not nearly enough to risk the outcry they'd be on the receiving end of if they were to start nationalising profitable private businesses. They'll win the election without the risk, so why bother?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
They support it is why. They tried and failed when no much money was being made.
tony.c
Well-Known Member
From reading royalmailchat.co.uk it seems the ballot papers were due to go out soon (today?) but has been put back so CWU Branches can check membership lists for accuracy and avoid a legal challenge by Royal Mail, which has happened before. Originally strike action could have started from 10 October with a Yes vote, but looks like it's being pushed back towards November.
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