RIP Sarah Everard, who went missing from Brixton in March 2021

[SheilaNaGig]

Weird how they’ve chosen a cheerful smiley picture for the front page.

ETA
I suppose it serves to remind us that you can’t fucking trust anyone.

 

[Espresso]

Weird how they’ve chosen a cheerful smiley picture for the front page.

ETA
I suppose it serves to remind us that you can’t fucking trust anyone.

You're right. When I saw that photo I thought what an ordinary sort of man he looked. That's exactly the point that's being made. How depressing is that.

 

[Pickman's model]

Weird how they’ve chosen a cheerful smiley picture for the front page.

ETA
I suppose it serves to remind us that you can’t fucking trust anyone.

You're right. When I saw that photo I thought what an ordinary sort of man he looked. That's exactly the point that's being made. How depressing is that.

a quick search for pictures of him doesn't turn up a great range so it may just be they've decided to run with what they've got

 

[SheilaNaGig]

a quick search for pictures of him doesn't turn up a great range so it may just be they've decided to run with what they've got

Sky News didn’t need to put a picture of him on there at all.

 

[Pickman's model]

Sky News didn’t need to put a picture of him on there at all.

there was some discussion of naming him earlier in the thread, where it was said that by naming him other women might come forwards. so by that rationale showing his picture might reach women he had attacked. however, there's much to be said for the new zealand precedent, where they refused to name or show pictures of the mosque gunman. what i found particularly abhorrent when i searched for pictures just now was the way some images had him and sarah everard side by side.

 

[Gramsci]

thought some of you might be interested by this free e-book from verson Verso, feminist city: claiming space in a man-made world

Thanks for letting me know. Just downloaded it.

 

[vanya]

Here's a charity which runs refuges for women fleeing to escape domestic violence. Just donated to it.

Home - Women's Aid

Women's Aid is a grassroots federation working together to provide life-saving services and build a future where domestic violence is not tolerated.

www.womensaid.org.uk

 

[Treacle Toes]

Plain clothed or undercover, it doesn’t make a lot of difference to me. I don’t and won’t trust them and won’t feel safer with them lurking around clubs and bars.

It's a stupid idea all around and I dare say some pathetic 'rebranding' of the use of more undercovers in bars and clubs anyway for other reasons.

Also...I mean, it's a fucking great idea isn't it?

Met Police ‘let hundreds of officers accused of sex attacks escape sanction’

Exclusive: Figures obtained by The Independent show only one in every 18 members of the Met accused of sexual assault are subject to formal action

www.independent.co.uk

 

[The39thStep]

there was some discussion of naming him earlier in the thread, where it was said that by naming him other women might come forwards. so by that rationale showing his picture might reach women he had attacked. however, there's much to be said for the new zealand precedent, where they refused to name or show pictures of the mosque gunman. what i found particularly abhorrent when i searched for pictures just now was the way some images had him and sarah everard side by side.

Do you mean separate pictures adjacent to each other ?

 

[Pickman's model]

Do you mean separate pictures adjacent to each other ?

Yes in one image

 

[bimble]

It's a stupid idea all around and I dare say some pathetic 'rebranding' of the use of more undercovers in bars and clubs anyway for other reasons.

Also...I mean, it's a fucking great idea isn't it?

Met Police ‘let hundreds of officers accused of sex attacks escape sanction’

Exclusive: Figures obtained by The Independent show only one in every 18 members of the Met accused of sexual assault are subject to formal action

www.independent.co.uk

bloody hell the stats in that. "the vast majority (of police accused of sexual violence) "faced no action". Not even paper action, or a talking to, how can that even be ?

 

[ddraig]

bloody hell the stats in that. "the vast majority (of police accused of sexual violence) "faced no action". Not even paper action, or a talking to, how can that even be ?

Because they don't have to, because the general public believe the "few rotten apples" crap, because what are you going to do about it?? eh? eh?

e2a - and they look after their own

 

[editor]

Council news Lambeth to hold one minute’s silence to remember Sarah Everard and other women affected by violence from men

 

[Pickman's model]

so sir stephen house is something of a wanker Met deputy says he 'can't apologise' for officers over Sarah Everard vigil

says he can't apologise for officers' conduct at the vigil - they were it seems doing their duty as they saw it. it's my firm belief that they were doing their 'duty,' if that's what attacking women is, at someone else's behest, someone up the way at nsy. and that's why he won't apologise for it.

 

[teqniq]

Apparently he's also unhappy with Sisters Uncut for sharing this:



so.......

 

[existentialist]

Apparently he's also unhappy with Sisters Uncut for sharing this:



so.......

It's always interesting when people get cross about other people sharing information.

 

[Raheem]

He was trying to make out that sharing arrest advice proved that the vigil was actually a demonstration and not a vigil, I think.

 

[Pickman's model]

He was trying to make out that sharing arrest advice proved that the vigil was actually a demonstration and not a vigil, I think.

Given the cops' attitude beforehand (and indeed on the day) it was good advice

 

[bimble]

This total refusal to admit fault (let alone resign) seems to be endemic now with powerful public life people, I don’t think it used to be like that.

 

[Mr paulee]

Surge in downloads of women’s safety apps following Sarah Everard death

App WalkSafe is No 1 in Apple app store and Hollie Guard has had more than 200,000 downloads

www.theguardian.com

 

[existentialist]

Surge in downloads of women’s safety apps following Sarah Everard death

App WalkSafe is No 1 in Apple app store and Hollie Guard has had more than 200,000 downloads

www.theguardian.com

And what do you think about this?

 

[Mr paulee]

And what do you think about this?

It's a very sad state of affairs that it's needed.

What do you think ?

 

[Gramsci]

so sir stephen house is something of a wanker Met deputy says he 'can't apologise' for officers over Sarah Everard vigil

says he can't apologise for officers' conduct at the vigil - they were it seems doing their duty as they saw it. it's my firm belief that they were doing their 'duty,' if that's what attacking women is, at someone else's behest, someone up the way at nsy. and that's why he won't apologise for it.

The justification the Met is using is that its intervening to protect people's health. That is that its actions on that night are for the public good

Read this few days ago. Argues that putting police in position of protecting peoples health is a worrying use of state power.

No medical ethics committee would greenlight such tactics for use in a medical setting to force compliance with infectious diseases guidance

Police Violence Does Not Protect Public Health

This weekend's crackdown on the Clapham vigil was justified on the basis it was defending public health – but police violence doesn't protect us from Covid-19, it undermines the whole pandemic response.

tribunemag.co.uk

Its interesting article by a psychiatrist.

The defence by Met of their actions by using the protecting health line should be questioned.

The article argues that actions like this undermine confidence in public health strategies.

 

[existentialist]

He was trying to make out that sharing arrest advice proved that the vigil was actually a demonstration and not a vigil, I think.

That's cuntitude, then.

 

[Gramsci]

Met deputy says he 'can't apologise' for officers over Sarah Everard vigil

Sir Stephen House says officers were ‘doing their duty as they saw it’ and he will not second-guess them

www.theguardian.com

Cressida Dick was invited to speak to London Assembly members of the Police and Crime committee but sent her deputy instead. She shows a real contempt those elected to represent us Londoners.

She is quite happy talking to Priti Patel.

 

[Gramsci]

Looking at career of Cressida Dick OBE. Her main interest in "security". She went into anti terrorism and even the short period when she was not in the police she worked in Foreign Office on security issues. She has no interest in community policing.

Hence the line coming out from Met accusing Sister Uncut of making it a demo.

In the mind of Cop like Cressida Dick (and Priti Patel who she works closely with) groups like Sisters Uncut are possible threat to "order" Or in other words of Priti Patel out to destabilise society.

 

[teqniq]

The person who presided over the murder of Jean Charles de Menezes is not to be trusted at all by ordinary people imo. She has however amply demonstrated her usefulness to the establishment.

 

[Little Piranha]

Sisters Uncut have organised a public online meeting tonight to discuss the fact the police do not protect women, increasing their powers will not help us and to strategise on how to organise and resist. I thought some of you might be interested.

 

[Gramsci]

Latest from Sisters Uncut:

At the moment there is a huge amount of discourse swirling around whether Metropolitan Police Commissioner Cressida Dick should resign over the police violence against women attending the Clapham vigil. This narrative is a distraction. Cressida Dick represents a particular type of authoritarian policing – which we can see most recently in the actions of the police under her orders this weekend and as far back as 2005, when she headed the operation which led to the fatal point-blank shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes – but if she steps down, someone else just like her will simply step in. Although her resignation is essential, we also have to challenge the police's violence which is deeply, institutionally entrenched.

Extending Police Powers Cannot & Will Not End Male Violence

In the wake of Sarah Everard's death, women are asking for change. The government isn't listening.

www.refinery29.com

I agree with this.

 

[bimble]

"The family of Sarah Everard have heard that an initial postmortem examination has not established how she died, and further inquiries into the cause of her death are ongoing."
what on earth did he do.
It's not going to make the blindest bit of difference to anything but i'm going to not watch any entertainments based around the gruesome killing of women for the rest of this year. I like a bit of noir / detective stuff but had enough, not entertained anymore.