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RIP Sarah Everard, who went missing from Brixton in March 2021

Watching the stream and looks like as usual ending up in Westminster is a bad idea for protests. You are on their home turf and they are past masters at (mis)directing the crowd.
 
The protest outside Brighton police station moved down to the site of the original vigil. This time the police kept out of it and everything went off without incident. It would seem that the Sussex force did at least a little of the learning that their Met counterparts seem incapable of.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

p.s. hugely proud of my 20 year old daughter who took part in the original vigil and today's response.
 
Peaceful though angry when I was there too, we left when they announced the meeting ended though which was pretty early. I would have stayed but i was with my mum and she was worried about getting a fpn as she really can't afford it ATM.

I went to the bandstand afterwards, was extremely emotional. The messages and atmosphere was very powerful. Lots of people quietly reading and crying. There were two fuckuing plod standing there, made me absolutely raging. There was zero reason for them to be there and it's the last thing anyone wants to see. There was a woman having a go at them for the way she was treated by them after an assault, but nothing gets through to those cunts.
 
Imagine if every woman in the land did, this for a while at least.





I spoke with a man friend today. He phoned specifically because he was outraged about the way everything was handled and especially the police response last night, and he knew I’d have been there. He wanted to offer solidarity. He said “Of course it would cause defiance” and I said “It’s not defiance. It’s a response. Why is it “defiant” for women to respond to violence with refusal to shut up and go away? Saying it was defiant women is like saying it was uppity women .” He agreed and apologised.

Point being, here’s an ally, a good man, displaying - at the very least - patriarchal habits of speech.
 
bimble said:
As a rule i always prefer the fuckup explanation to a more sinister one but this, these pictures, women physically attacked pushed to the ground by policemen for mourning the murder committed by one of them, its just so beyond idiotic i cant do it, can't believe it was just stupidity at play.
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They were there to stick up for their colleague.
 
mx wcfc said:
No, I don't think it was that. I don't think they were sticking up for the murderer.

I think cops are just bastards who just love steaming in and battering/nicking people and fucking their victims lives up. Been on enough demos (and football stuff) to know that.

Met - Biggest gang in town.
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I don't suppose they're all like that, but enough are that I am sure the prevailing organisational culture is quite heavily dominated by their views. You probably have to be a brave copper to be seen not to be falling into line. And when shit like that happens in corporations and the like, you start looking at the management chain rather closely...
 
Idris2002 said:
They were there to stick up for their colleague.
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No they weren't. They were following orders. And they are authoritarian, reactionary, misogynistic bullies. At least enough of them are. They'll stick up for current colleagues, team mates etc. But even that lot wouldn't try and defend the reputation of a rapist murderer. And yet they couldn't care less about how other people see them. They're so used to being despised and distrusted that they get used to it. It becomes normal. They also know that lefties, feminists, gay people, ethnic minorities etc hold them in very low esteem. They've already chosen their side in the class war/race war/culture war. So they weren't sticking up for some police killer, just behaving normally.
 
Kevbad the Bad said:
No they weren't. They were following orders. And they are authoritarian, reactionary, misogynistic bullies. At least enough of them are. They'll stick up for current colleagues, team mates etc. But even that lot wouldn't try and defend the reputation of a rapist murderer. And yet they couldn't care less about how other people see them. They're so used to being despised and distrusted that they get used to it. It becomes normal. They also know that lefties, feminists, gay people, ethnic minorities etc hold them in very low esteem. They've already chosen their side in the class war/race war/culture war. So they weren't sticking up for some police killer, just behaving normally.
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They clearly regarded the women at the vigil as enemies to be crushed. That's more than just following orders in the culture wars.
 
Little Piranha said:
I think they hate him for embarrassing them, but the shame of it has made them double down even more to brazen it out. If they acted more sensitively they think it would be admitting some kind of culpability.
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Yes, and that's what I mean by "they were there to stick up for their colleague".
 
Idris2002 said:
Yes, and that's what I mean by "they were there to stick up for their colleague".
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I don't think it's really the same thing. I don't think they want to stand up for him personally. If anything they want to distance themselves as much as they can from him, and their fucked up way to do that is to try to show that they're not taking it in to consideration at all because he's a crazy anomaly. So they have to be extra shit in case someone thinks that the reason they're being hands off is because they're ashamed and they have a responsibility for it.
 
mx wcfc said:
No, I don't think it was that. I don't think they were sticking up for the murderer.

I think cops are just bastards who just love steaming in and battering/nicking people and fucking their victims lives up. Been on enough demos (and football stuff) to know that.

Met - Biggest gang in town.
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Yep.

I reckon that in the absence of anything else to do (because they are morally bankrupt) they just do the Big Boy playground bully thing by force of habit.


I said to a pal a few days ago, they’ll either rally round him or throw him to the wolves. He doesn’t appear to be enough in the gang to draw the rally-round thing, so he’s mince meat. He knows this, hence beating his head against the wall.
 
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