Yes they do.
Reporter and cameraman shot dead during live TV interview in Virginia
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Yes they do.
The Octagon
Stop...Hammertime
He doesn't believe anything he's saying, can people stop rising to it? You could have all the facts in the world and nothing will stop the derail. It's professional contrarian bollocks.
Unless you're enjoying arguing for the sake of it, in which case carry on.
Unless you're enjoying arguing for the sake of it, in which case carry on.
gosub
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Homicides by gun per 100,000 people
Mexico9.97
Brazil 18.1
South Africa 17.03
Venezula 38.97
Columbia 27.09
Guatamala 34.81
Paraguay 7.35
Panama 16.18
Honduras 68.43
Dominican Republic 16.3
Costa Rica 4.59
El Salvador 39.9
Zimbabwe 4.78
Nicaragua 5.92
Jamaica 39.4
Ecuador 12.73
Guyana 11.46
Belize 21.82
Trinidad 27.31
Bahamas 15.37
Anguilla 7.14
Porto Rico 18.3
Saint Kitts 32.44
Saint Vincent 5.49
US 3.2
gosub
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I wouldn't have looked up those stats if he hadn't. They surprised me
Exactly. Because they have the highest rate of legal gun ownership in the world, their gun crime rate is relatively low. And as we've seen, the same correlation is found among individual American states.
gosub
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I am not typing out ALL the countries where gun crime is lower you cunt.
It may also surprise you to learn that whenever the people have actually been allowed to vote on the issue, they have overwhelmingly decided that gun ownership should be legal.
Brazilian firearms and ammunition referendum, 2005 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That won't be necessary, any single example will suffice.
Take Honduras for instance. Gun crime has sky-rocketed since controls on legal ownership were introduced in 2007:
Gun politics in Honduras - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I know many people find this hard to understand, but the correlations are practically invariant.
The USA is admittedly an anomaly. Taken as a whole that is--as I've shown, the individual states reflect the international trend.
But the high gun crime rate in the USA must be be explained by other factors than widespread legal gun ownership. For one thing, crimes are rarely committed with legally-owned guns.
Prohibition is not the answer.
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
Depends really...here we see the indestructible merkava on the plains of southern Lebanon
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
Citizens militias can be right wing fucknuts, but even they have rights . Even though that Bundy ranch guy was a prize prick I for one was pretty happy to see the Feds being faced down . They were running about like they wre in Iraq just over one old farmer and a few horses . Rights were definitely being trampled on there , that was actual tyranny . Even if it was directed against a racist wanker . Placards and posters would just have been laughed at . Hundreds of rifles weren't .
Previously too the legal approach taken by the original black panther movement asserted some fundamentals too . And if I was a black man in certain parts of the united states gun ownership would be a definite priority for me . Whether for defence against racists or criminals from my own community . In fact if I lived in the states at all I'd have a gun by my bed frankly .
I was also reading a bit a while back about the aftermath of hurricane katrina , were white racists were basically out hunting blacks . The black community had been demonised in the racist media as looters, while whites in the same predicament were " foraging for essential supplies " . And so bands were basically out hunting them . A white anarchist got in touch with some black community leaders , they all got tooled up and gave the message to them and plod . The shooting stops or they shoot back . It worked . In their neighbourhood at least .
Personally I think firearms are so embedded in American culture there's no more chance of banning them than there is banning burgers . There'll always be a populist demand for them, and that equals votes . If a laws passed it'll just be overturned later . Also if I was a yank the likes of piers Morgan lecturing me on gun control would just make me go out and buy a massive fuck off gun to spite him .
likesfish
You can't park here sir
Tbf phil america only looks good if you put it in a table withhttps://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/0B...orus_asset/file/3808398/gunsper-capita1.0.jpg
Poor countries add 1st world countrys and it looks bad
Poor countries add 1st world countrys and it looks bad
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
correlation as anyone with an ounce of nous will tell you does not equal causation.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
tbh it's pretty amateur contrarian bollocks
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
How would a few ak47's stop America deciding to liberate the shit out of cuba if it wanted to? militias just get workers dead.
As you're well aware, tankies always leave their vehicles to have a piss, if there are nearby infantry to piss on, so you just wait, shoot them, then nick their tank.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Depends really...here we see the indestructible merkava on the plains of southern Lebanon
That is what happens when your general staff is arrogant enough to assume that their enemy won't have ranged-in their artillery to blanket your route with shells.
What fucked the IDF over even more, was that Hezbollah had dug their artillery into revetments and/or sited it in caves, or used mobile artillery, making it much harder for the IDF to locate and destroy.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
As you're well aware, tankies always leave their vehicles to have a piss, if there are nearby infantry to piss on, so you just wait, shoot them, then nick their tank.
Unfortunatly real war doesnt work like call of duty
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Unfortunatly real war doesnt work like call of duty
I love that you're rolling your eyes at someone who was soldiering when you were still in short trousers, and with a decent rifle.
BTW, I've never played Call of Duty or any other 1st person military shooter game. No point.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
no, the crashes in real war really kill people.Unfortunatly real war doesnt work like call of duty
likesfish
You can't park here sir
how dare the SA80 was the finest engineered rifle ever made honest *I love that you're rolling your eyes at someone who was soldiering when you were still in short trousers, and with a decent rifle.
BTW, I've never played Call of Duty or any other 1st person military shooter game. No point.
*. Can I stop doing press ups now?
Must be early onset dementia if he thought stealing a tank was a viable idea its probably broken down anyway
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
how dare the SA80 was the finest engineered rifle ever made honest *
*. Can I stop doing press ups now?
The prototypes were finely engineered. Unfortunately, the production rifles suffered the usual MoD money-saving "ideas", including switching from milled to stamped components, and changing the type of polycarbonate used from a more rigid hard-wearing one to something more flexible that would start cracking if you took the rifle off of the rack.
Must be early onset dementia if he thought stealing a tank was a viable idea its probably broken down anyway
So you nick the (inevitable) tank-transporter instead!
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i thought SA80 was short for SA80TAGED
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
I can remember a teenaged casually red and his chums the afternoon we first noticed the trusty old SLR withdrawn , and that new fangled plastic thing being toted by a patrol of marines around our village in its stead .
" hi boy..what the fucks that ? "
" is that thing a gun ???...hahaha..."
One angry marine with his back to us spun round really quickly , obviously to fire off a barbed retort or give us a stern lecture on the capabilities of this fearsome cutting edge killing machine that was the envy of infantrymen everywhere . And the magazine fell out of the fucking thing with a clatter .
And we rolled about on the ground laughing .
Teeth were gritted on the return to base...I have little doubt of that . Possibly even buttocks clenched . But not a word was said .
" hi boy..what the fucks that ? "
" is that thing a gun ???...hahaha..."
One angry marine with his back to us spun round really quickly , obviously to fire off a barbed retort or give us a stern lecture on the capabilities of this fearsome cutting edge killing machine that was the envy of infantrymen everywhere . And the magazine fell out of the fucking thing with a clatter .
And we rolled about on the ground laughing .
Teeth were gritted on the return to base...I have little doubt of that . Possibly even buttocks clenched . But not a word was said .
not-bono-ever
meh
You are a tease Philip.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
We had an officer while he was who was picking the susat scope that had fallen off approached by a local IRA man who claimed to have nicked a load of the UDR but as they were shit do you want them back?
Should have made a massive effort to sell them to the third world so helping world peace cant really fight a vicious civil war with a pile of junk and even the bayonets toss its doesnt even make a decent club
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
We had an officer while he was who was picking the susat scope that had fallen off approached by a local IRA man who claimed to have nicked a load of the UDR but as they were shit do you want them back?
Should have made a massive effort to sell them to the third world so helping world peace cant really fight a vicious civil war with a pile of junk and even the bayonets toss its doesnt even make a decent club
It's like somebody gave Andy from little Britain some Lego , and half an hour later asked him what he'd made
It's a gun !!
Yes, but are you sure ?
It's a gun !!....I don't like it
likesfish
You can't park here sir
The A2 works it should as its weight in gold was handed over to the rhine dwarfs of hk to fix the wretched thing.
1st designed in 4.85mm to win the nato new ammo comp as the yanks used 5.56 never going to happen.
2nd a quick redesign didnt work so ROC stole the ar18 design off sterling and bodged it into a bullpup.
3rd Maggie sold off roc to bae who looked at the sites and decided hmm nice place for yuppie flats oh my the way workers once this gats built sling yer hooks, strangely that didnt produce a quality product not that bae gave a shit
Michel klashnikov got shown one when he visted the uk god only knows why you'd that bloke builds a legendary assualt rifle and you show him a piece of crap, his comment was "you must have very clever soldiers"
Only the indians have managed to create a worse weapon the inas all the faults of the sa80 plus a tendacy to spit hot oil into the unfortunate firers face
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One excuse given is the indian rifle is ideal for making sure india doesnt start something with china or pakistan
Mind you america has set aside 1/2 billion dollars for a new pistol, which should be a simple thing but they want a modular combat system of enhanced lethality and accuracy. Last time they tried that they got the MK23 of splinter cell fame very accurate very powerful but the size and weight of a small car not exactly a plus in a handgun HECKEL and KOCH built the handgun to special forces spec unfortunatly US special forces cant write sane specs
1st designed in 4.85mm to win the nato new ammo comp as the yanks used 5.56 never going to happen.
2nd a quick redesign didnt work so ROC stole the ar18 design off sterling and bodged it into a bullpup.
3rd Maggie sold off roc to bae who looked at the sites and decided hmm nice place for yuppie flats oh my the way workers once this gats built sling yer hooks, strangely that didnt produce a quality product not that bae gave a shit
Michel klashnikov got shown one when he visted the uk god only knows why you'd that bloke builds a legendary assualt rifle and you show him a piece of crap, his comment was "you must have very clever soldiers"
Only the indians have managed to create a worse weapon the inas all the faults of the sa80 plus a tendacy to spit hot oil into the unfortunate firers face
.One excuse given is the indian rifle is ideal for making sure india doesnt start something with china or pakistan
Mind you america has set aside 1/2 billion dollars for a new pistol, which should be a simple thing but they want a modular combat system of enhanced lethality and accuracy. Last time they tried that they got the MK23 of splinter cell fame very accurate very powerful but the size and weight of a small car not exactly a plus in a handgun
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