"Refurbishment" of Streatham Hill station.

[Minnie_the_Minx]

it does have ramps - well, it will have ramps once it has finished. The new walkway has been put in so that there is also lift access to both platforms.

It is terribly ugly though: every time I walk along the walkway, I feel like I am in a concentration camp - the mesh on either side gives off the 'prison' vibe.

There's going to be a lift?

 

[kyser_soze]

It looks like the 1970s with 1950s colours.

 

[teuchter]

There's going to be a lift?

Two.
You can see the shaft for one of them in the photo in my OP.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Two.
You can see the shaft for one of them in the photo in my OP.

Excellent news. Those stairs were a nightmare if you had heavy luggage/shopping

 

[dogmatique]

Even if the original station buildings aren't listed... there must have had to be a planning application? Well done Lambeth planning department...

If I remember correctly - the railways don't have to seek any planning permission for buildings on their land - hence the uproar when Southern built that train cleaning facility a bit further down the tracks literally feet away from people's bedrooms, with 24 hour strip lighting and sewage removal. Nice.

Lambeth had to take them to court and spend a shitload on legal fees, so I think they specifically have to challenge inappropriate buildings without any guarantee they'll win.

 

[teuchter]

If I remember correctly - the railways don't have to seek any planning permission for buildings on their land - hence the uproar when Southern built that train cleaning facility a bit further down the tracks literally feet away from people's bedrooms, with 24 hour strip lighting and sewage removal. Nice.

Lambeth had to take them to court and spend a shitload on legal fees, so I think they specifically have to challenge inappropriate buildings without any guarantee they'll win.

It looks like some railway related stuff is considered as "permitted development" (ie doesn't need planning permission) but it seems that stations and footbridges aren't included in this:

Class A Railway or light railway undertakings

• Permitted development
  A. Development by railway undertakers on their operational land, required in connection with the movement of traffic by rail.

• Development not permitted
  A.1 Development is not permitted by Class A if it consists of or includes—
  
  
  • (a) the construction of a railway,
  
  
  • (b) the construction or erection of a hotel, railway station or bridge, or
  
  
  • (c) the construction or erection otherwise than wholly within a railway station of—
    
    
    • (i) an office, residential or educational building, or a building used for an industrial process, or
    
    
    • (ii) a car park, shop, restaurant, garage, petrol filling station or other building or structure provided under transport legislation.

• Interpretation of Class A
  A.2 For the purposes of Class A, references to the construction or erection of any building or structure include references to the reconstruction or alteration of a building or structure where its design or external appearance would be materially affected.

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1995/Uksi_19950418_en_4.htm#IDAA4F3D

 

[dogmatique]

Well researched!

 

[lang rabbie]

If I remember correctly - the railways don't have to seek any planning permission for buildings on their land - hence the uproar when Southern built that train cleaning facility a bit further down the tracks literally feet away from people's bedrooms, with 24 hour strip lighting and sewage removal. Nice.

Lambeth had to take them to court and spend a shitload on legal fees, so I think they specifically have to challenge inappropriate buildings without any guarantee they'll win.

That battle is still ongoing - Southern have appealed and the full dress public enquiry starts in Lambeth Town Hall later this month.

 

[dogmatique]

No great surprise there. Another particularly shabby chapter in Southern's book. And at huge expense to Lambeth already.

 

[lang rabbie]

It's not; you can see the previous arrangement of stairs etc in the background here:

Probably one for the Transport forum rather than here... but I'm sure there are some transport spods lurking around this thread

I was once told that the "old" bridge at Streatham Hill actually only dated back to the Edwardian era. Apparently, it had to be raised to accommodate the original overhead electrification that was undertaken by the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway. This lasted little more than 20 years as the Southern Railway then adopted cheaper 3rd rail electrification as run by the London and South Western.

Any information gratefully received...

 

[teuchter]

Didn't know that part of the SR once had overhead lines.

It seems slightly surprising that it was cheaper to dismantle it all and add a third rail, than to continue to maintain the OHLE.

 

[RushcroftRoader]

I know peeps are going to shout at me for saying this, but its a fookin walkway at a railway station - not an extention to Tate Modern!!

 

[zzande]

I was there yesterday and thought to myself "oh I wonder what they are going to do with the walkway and platforms", not realising they had already been done!!!! Also, I had no idea which platform went in which direction as there doesnt seem to be many information signs. So if you were at the station yesterday, I was the idiot wandering around aimlessly with the confused expression!! Haha

 

[19sixtysix]

Probably one for the Transport forum rather than here... but I'm sure there are some transport spods lurking around this thread

I was once told that the "old" bridge at Streatham Hill actually only dated back to the Edwardian era. Apparently, it had to be raised to accommodate the original overhead electrification that was undertaken by the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway. This lasted little more than 20 years as the Southern Railway then adopted cheaper 3rd rail electrification as run by the London and South Western.

Any information gratefully received...

Didn't know that part of the SR once had overhead lines.

It seems slightly surprising that it was cheaper to dismantle it all and add a third rail, than to continue to maintain the OHLE.

It was the LBSCR. They used overhead electric lines 6.5 kV. The plan was to go all the way to brighton but was stopped by the short sighted use of the cheaper 3rd rail system when the SR was formed in 1922. The line was over head from about 1911 to 1929. At the side of those lines you can still see the chopped off overhead gantries. I read

London's Elevated Electric Railway: The LBSCR Suburban Overhead Electrification 1909-1929 (Paperback)
by Geoff Goslin (Author)