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Mates daughter, 6 went off school earlier this week with covid (caught via her brother).

Now in hospital on a covid ward and being given antibiotics, told it may be a severe case and potential long covid.
A follow up message

“(My mates daughter) has been in the children Covid ward since Thursday, not in ICU though. she has PIMS Paediatric Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome. Took a while but they’ve got her on some strong roids yesterday for three days to fight the infection. On antibiotics as a precaution. Her breathing, heart rare and temp were all high but coming down now. Cardiologist and doctor was quite positive that it will clear up. Will be in for at least another week and they won’t say more than that until infection comes down.”

Him and his wife have been at the hospital throughout. It seems like she’s going to be pull through but what a worry, I really hope the government crack on and continue the vaccination programme for schoolchildren.
 
Sincerely hope the little one makes a full recovery but the way you worded this implies her parents sent to school knowing she had Covid??
 
It’s probably my wording, all I know is that my mate followed the guidelines laid out by the school - (whatever they are - I don’t actually know them as I don’t have any kids to be responsible for).
 
Guidelines is one thing, common sense and consideration for others is often something entirely different
 
Guidelines is one thing, common sense and consideration for others is often something entirely different
My mate is someone who has both of those qualities in abundance, I am certainly not going to ask him in forensic detail to explain his actions in chronological order to satisfy you chum
 
Not being open about which schools have outbreaks seems to be a feature of this phase.

eg in my local news:


CoventryLive understands three of these schools hit by positive cases during the first week of the new term are in the Nuneaton area, two primary and one secondary.

But unlike previously, Public Health Warwickshire will not confirm the identity of any of the schools, but a spokesman has said it is working with a number of schools in the county.

There is the potential for this sort of withholding of information to be counterproductive to the authorities aims, if people fill the void with rumour, fear and suspicion.
 
There are no close contacts any more. They've been abolished by fiat.

It will drive people crazy.

On paper the concept of close contacts still exists, even for children, but the implications have all been changed.

Self-isolation is no longer a part of it if you are double-vaccinated or under 18 and a half years of age.

If contacted by NHS Test & Trace then things like taking a PCR test even without symptoms is still part of the response. But I expect they have also shifted the definition of close contact and so the extent to which this will happen with children at school remains to be seen. They explicitly mention that children aged 4 and under wont usually be asked to take a test, so that implies older children may still find themselves being asked to take one.

NHS Test and Trace will contact you to let you know that you have been identified as a contact and check whether you are legally required to self-isolate. If you are not legally required to self-isolate you will be provided with advice on testing and given guidance on preventing the spread of COVID-19. Even if you do not have symptoms, you will be advised to have a PCR test as soon as possible. Children aged 4 and under will not be advised to take a test unless the positive case was someone in their own household.


I expect other official page(s) exist that deal more explicitly with schools, but they will be so hideous that I cannot bring myself to look for them right now. Instead here is another quote from the aforementioned page. As per its wording, a child can still in theory be identified as a close contact, but they will still be expected to go to school.

Children and young people aged under 18 years 6 months who usually attend an education or childcare setting and who have been identified as a close contact should continue to attend the setting as normal. They do not need to wear a face covering within the setting, but it is expected and recommended that these are worn when travelling on public or dedicated transport.

More ammunition for my view that this country has suffered under an absurd and ridiculous establishment for many lifetimes, and the pandemic simply illuminates the shit that was always there.
 
All my office colleagues went out Friday night. Meal, two pubs and two nightclubs for most of them, the last apparently packed. All but one of them hadn't taken an LFT when returning to college today. I've asked them individually to do one as a favour to me tonight. Slightly astonished I had to ask.
 
We started back at college today, and I've ordered another pack of LFTs in celebration.

I was rather dismayed at the proportion of students in the common areas masking their chins, or doing the nose-over. I may order another pack of LFTs and start testing more regularly.
 
We started back at college today, and I've ordered another pack of LFTs in celebration.

I was rather dismayed at the proportion of students in the common areas masking their chins, or doing the nose-over. I may order another pack of LFTs and start testing more regularly.
I think I'd guess I've seen three students total sporting masks in the week they've been back (out of literally hundreds). Maybe half a dozen staff. We have one of the highest if not THE highest number of cases per 100k in the land and mask wearing is completely up to individuals.
 
I think I'd guess I've seen three students total sporting masks in the week they've been back (out of literally hundreds). Maybe half a dozen staff. We have one of the highest if not THE highest number of cases per 100k in the land and mask wearing is completely up to individuals.
The Estates people at this college are proper Gestapo*, and they've been enforcing mask-wearing pretty rigorously. But I think the student response has been to chin their masks, so they can flick them up quickly when they spot the "fuzz" prowling :hmm: :(

* A kinder comparison might be the bledlows of Unseen University - bulky, steady chaps (almost exclusively chaps) with a dogged aim of enforcing the many and various College rules and regulations. Without fear or favour - tutors are not exempt from their attentions :eek:
 
In all seriousness, those who know/think they will be fine but also know/think that they could give it to someone that could end up dead yet dont care disgusts me. (and lets face it most university students not masking up fit this description) Im not tolerant of selfish cunts and dont hold youth as an excuse at that age they know what they are doing
 
In all seriousness, those who know/think they will be fine but also know/think that they could give it to someone that could end up dead yet dont care disgusts me. (and lets face it most university students not masking up fit this description) Im not tolerant of selfish cunts and dont hold youth as an excuse at that age they know what they are doing
But, like my step-daughter once pointed out to me, you have to choose which hill you want to die on. My getting outraged, or weighing in on these students would achieve nothing, so to my mind, there's little point winding myself up about it. These behaviours are the emergent properties of a society, not individual acts of evil, and, like so many less-desirable aspects of human behaviour, are somewhat baked in by the society they grew up in. Getting outraged about it is futile.
 
The good news at my place is that we haven't had any more positives beyond the original infections I've mentioned.

The bad news is that one of those continues to suffer badly. She's 55 and asthmatic. Managed to avoid hospital so far and hopefully that continues. Word is she isn't improving much, if at all. I hope long Covid doesn't become a thing for her, fingers crossed.
 
At my current school teachers are responsible for ensuring they cannot be considered 'close contacts' of any student who tests positive. So that's that sorted. As long as we don't need to use a corridor. Or a classroom. Or breathe air.

I'm also working on a day-to-day basis via an agency. So if (when) I do get sick, no paid sick leave :thumbs:
 
Had 'the letter' yesterday, someone in BB2's class has Covid, BB2 is considered a close-contact. But we must do nothing unless she becomes ill. This time last year her whole year had to take 2 weeks off when the same happened...
 
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