Rape, sexual assault and harassment in the entertainment industry

[Sue]

He really doesn't know when to stop digging.

“Apparently now, I’m reading in the paper, there’s been 13 complaints in that time. I can see the complaints coming from a handful of middle-class women of a certain age, just from Celebrity MasterChef. This isn’t right.

“In 20 years, over 20 years of television, can you imagine how many women, female contestants on MasterChef, have made sexual remarks, or sexual innuendo? Can you imagine?”

Gregg Wallace says complaints came from ‘middle-class women of a certain age’

Wallace stepped back from role on MasterChef last week while allegations of sexual misconduct are investigated

www.theguardian.com

 

[tim]

He really doesn't know when to stop digging.

“Apparently now, I’m reading in the paper, there’s been 13 complaints in that time. I can see the complaints coming from a handful of middle-class women of a certain age, just from Celebrity MasterChef. This isn’t right.

“In 20 years, over 20 years of television, can you imagine how many women, female contestants on MasterChef, have made sexual remarks, or sexual innuendo? Can you imagine?”

Gregg Wallace says complaints came from ‘middle-class women of a certain age’

Wallace stepped back from role on MasterChef last week while allegations of sexual misconduct are investigated

www.theguardian.com

Can you imagine that anyone can be this stupid; can you imagine?



He doesn't like "middleclass women of a certain age" and their hurty words. This is designed to portray himself as a working-class victim of a woke witch- hunt; despite being broadcast from his middle-class spare room.

A lot of complaints were from those in low level assistant roles so notin the category of women he accuses of trying to destroy him.

Someone with a giant ladle of sickly-sweet boiling custard should bonk him on the dome of his egg and pour the contents into the resulting lesion. That's the only language his sort undestands!

 

[Sue]

Can you imagine that anyone can be this stupid; can you imagine?



He doesn't like "middleclass women of a certain age" and their hurty words. This is designed to portray himself as a working-class victim of a woke witch- hunt; despite being broadcast from his middle-class spare room.

A lot of complaints were from those in low level assistant roles so notin the category of women he accuses of trying to destroy him.

I'm guessing he thinks everyone hates middle class, middle-aged women as much as he does so this'll have people rallying to his side.

And of course no understanding there at all about power dynamics and that middle class, middle-aged women established in their careers are likely in a much better position to call out his behaviour than younger women who feel they can't 'make a fuss' or they'll be putting their livelihoods at risk. (Though some did anyway.)

I'm also pretty sure that this will encourage more women to come forward.

 

[tim]

I'm guessing he thinks everyone hates middle class, middle-aged women as much as he does so this'll have people rallying to his side.

And of course no understanding there at all about power dynamics and that middle class, middle-aged women established in their careers are likely in a much better position to call out his behaviour than younger women who feel they can't 'make a fuss' or they'll be putting their livelihoods at risk. (Though some did anyway.)

I'm also pretty sure that this will encourage more women to come forward.

It's an attitude that Trump successfully appealed to, so maybe he thinks he's onto a winner.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Another vote for 'he always seemed dodgy to me'.

One of those people who I'm forever mystified why they're so ubiquitous on TV given how irritating and/or creepy they are.

Obviously that doesn't mean he's guilty but nothing he's said seems like an actual denial of what he's being accused of so...

 

[Elpenor]

The Matt Hampson foundation (a charity set up by a rugby player who is now paralysed and does great work) are not thrilled that he’s worn their t shirt while doing that video

We are aware of imagery in recent news coverage showing Gregg Wallace wearing a Matt Hampson Foundation shirt. Gregg has been a supporter of the Foundation’s work with people after life-changing injury but, as an inclusive charity based on values of community and family, we would like to make clear that we do not condone the kind of behaviour and comments contained in these allegations.

The Foundation will make no further comment.

https://matthampsonfoundation.org/statement-from-the-matt-hampson-foundation/

 

[Happy Tree]

Obviously I have no idea what the truth is, but that Coronation Street actor accused of groping a woman under her skirt comes across as genuinely mystified. But then why would someone just make it up?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

From archived PopBitch emails


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If this is true and this was a pattern of behaviour, the production company is badly at fault. A producer of some kind needed to step in and tell him right there and then to cut it out. Another egregious example, it appears, of someone not being dealt with properly because they're 'the talent'.

That's a culture that badly needs to change. You'd have thought they would have got that by now, tbh, given, you know, everything that's happened.

 

[Lotte]

He can fuck off playing the class card. I'm sure working-class women don't like being creeped on either. Unless he thinks they're all like Barbara Windsor in Carry On. If a man gropes me or makes disgusting creepy remarks, am I supposed to check his class background before I decide whether or not I should be upset?

Older women are more likely to speak up because they have less to lose than younger women who are only just starting out. He's blatantly pandering to the anti-woke crowd and will no doubt get a show on GB News.

 

[DaveCinzano]

The food writer MiMi Aye has described being on the receiving end of his ‘bants’ back in 2010 - with added racism, Torode being there and threatening her, her reporting it to his PR, and nothing meaningful being done about it



Her original write-up of it alludes to what she later described in more detail:

An Afternoon with John and Gregg - More MasterChef Fun

Asking me if I love MasterChef is a bit like asking if a bear sh*ts in the woods. I decided to write a blog because I'm working on a Burmes...

www.meemalee.com

 

[pbsmooth]

Making fun of someone’s name isn’t exactly crime of the century but I think highlights how out of touch he became realising expectations of behaviour have rightly changed.
As someone said above, the more you read the more you think someone should have had a word with him much earlier to say these sorts of jokes are not ok and need to stop. And then that would have hopefully been the end of it.

 

[TopCat]

Making fun of someone’s name isn’t exactly crime of the century but I think highlights how out of touch he became realising expectations of behaviour have rightly changed.
As someone said above, the more you read the more you think someone should have had a word with him much earlier to say these sorts of jokes are not ok and need to stop. And then that would have hopefully been the end of it.

I think making fun of someone’s name instead of learning to reasonably pronounce it is pretty shit.

 

[andysays]

I think making fun of someone’s name instead of learning to reasonably pronounce it is pretty shit.

Especially when the name (and the person whose name it is) is from a non-english culture.

I sometimes find it difficult to remember names I'm not familiar with, but making a "joke" out of it rather than acknowledging your own inadequacies is, as you say, pretty shit.

 

[PR1Berske]

I think making fun of someone’s name instead of learning to reasonably pronounce it is pretty shit.

It is and says a lot about him. I can understand that, with his attitude, he's attempted an ice breaker that should have been apologised for. Instead he's continued with it, in that way men often do because they think the recipient hasn't "got it".

 

[Kaka Tim]

Jesus - hes despreately trying to climb on the rickery "ive been cancelled by the wokerati" badnwagon in order to save his career. As suggested above - hes hoping GB news will come calling. Things is - most people would be instantly dissmissed for behaving like that at work. And the utter lack of self awareness - the ordinary women (and men) who appear on masterchef and the film crews are very unlikely to call him out becasue he is - sorry WAS - the big cheese on the show. So well well done Kirsty Wark and the other middle class women of a certain age who did - and well done too to the er ... easily offended woke warriror Rod Stewart. Rod Stewart hits out at Gregg Wallace for ‘humiliating’ his wife on MasterChef
I dont get why his bosses allowed this carry on for so long - hes hardly a unique talent.

I hope they make Kirsty Wark his replacement.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

I think making fun of someone’s name instead of learning to reasonably pronounce it is pretty shit.

 

[meurig]

Making fun of someone’s name isn’t exactly crime of the century but I think highlights how out of touch he became realising expectations of behaviour have rightly changed.
As someone said above, the more you read the more you think someone should have had a word with him much earlier to say these sorts of jokes are not ok and need to stop. And then that would have hopefully been the end of it.

According to The Guardian

It was also reported that a BBC executive warned Wallace in 2017 that his behaviour was “unacceptable and cannot continue” after complaints were made by the broadcaster Aasmah Mir, who appeared on the 12th series of Celebrity MasterChef.

 

[pbsmooth]

I think making fun of someone’s name instead of learning to reasonably pronounce it is pretty shit.

Yes I agree but I wouldn’t have it leading the BBC News if that was all he’d done. But everyone piles on with any story they have when someone is in the news of course.

He just seems stuck in the 80s. Clearly stuck in the 80s is not ok and he’s made people feel uncomfortable but the headlines starting to seem slightly out of proportion for the crimes imho.

 

[Sue]

It is and says a lot about him. I can understand that, with his attitude, he's attempted an ice breaker that should have been apologised for. Instead he's continued with it, in that way men often do because they think the recipient hasn't "got it".

But if you're not sure of someone's name or how to pronounce it, surely you just say that, apologise and ask them. It's not hard.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

It’s just epic bantz pussys.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Yes I agree but I wouldn’t have it leading the BBC News if that was all he’d done. But everyone piles on with any story they have when someone is in the news of course.

He just seems stuck in the 80s. Clearly stuck in the 80s is not ok and he’s made people feel uncomfortable but the headlines starting to seem slightly out of proportion for the crimes imho.

Fucking hell. I started working in the 90s and it was as cuntish then as the 80s.
In fact, maybe change the title of the thread to rape and exploitation in industry.
I’ve worked many verticles. I don’t think show business is on its own with regards to abuse.
Banking has it.
Pharma has it.
Logistics has it in spades.
There is nothing exceptionally noncey about show business, I’ve seen it everywhere else.

 

[Wilf]

Yes I agree but I wouldn’t have it leading the BBC News if that was all he’d done. But everyone piles on with any story they have when someone is in the news of course.

He just seems stuck in the 80s. Clearly stuck in the 80s is not ok and he’s made people feel uncomfortable but the headlines starting to seem slightly out of proportion for the crimes imho.

I think that really underplays it to the point of being wrong. There's a clear pattern of sexualised language and humiliation, aimed almost entirely at women it seems. Almost certainly about power, amid a toxic working environment. It's not just 'saying the wrong stuff/about being trapped in an earlier decade'. And when people said this stuff to women in the 80s, that was also about power.

 

[Elpenor]

Yeah it was shit behaviour in the 80s too

 

[Wilf]

Can you imagine that anyone can be this stupid; can you imagine?



He doesn't like "middleclass women of a certain age" and their hurty words. This is designed to portray himself as a working-class victim of a woke witch- hunt; despite being broadcast from his middle-class spare room.

A lot of complaints were from those in low level assistant roles so notin the category of women he accuses of trying to destroy him.

Someone with a giant ladle of sickly-sweet boiling custard should bonk him on the dome of his egg and pour the contents into the resulting lesion. That's the only language his sort undestands!

I just managed to listen to that. It's strange that yesterday or whenever it broke he was saying it hadn't happened, zilch, nada. Now it seems to be just 'middle class women' getting uppity. Hmmm, not sure both of those things can be true Greggy. Then he ends the clip by asking, over 20 years of filming, how many women have made sexual comments, implying it dwarfs his own 'bantz'. Well Greggo, I'd have thought the answer to that question is very few.

 

[Nylock]

He really doesn't know when to stop digging.

“Apparently now, I’m reading in the paper, there’s been 13 complaints in that time. I can see the complaints coming from a handful of middle-class women of a certain age, just from Celebrity MasterChef. This isn’t right.

“In 20 years, over 20 years of television, can you imagine how many women, female contestants on MasterChef, have made sexual remarks, or sexual innuendo? Can you imagine?”

Gregg Wallace says complaints came from ‘middle-class women of a certain age’

Wallace stepped back from role on MasterChef last week while allegations of sexual misconduct are investigated

www.theguardian.com

He'll be presenting on geebeebies before the ink's fully dried on his P45...

I think making fun of someone’s name instead of learning to reasonably pronounce it is pretty shit.

Definitely. And making fun of someone's name when it's from a non-british background could be reasonably construed as racist as well.

 

[Wilf]

Anyway, we are currently at stage 1:


Stage 2, within the week, when a mass of evidence emerges, moves on to what used to be the 'bantz defence'. Now updated to: apologies for any offence caused///

Just about there now, though he's only apologising about the 'middle class women' thing:

BBC rejects call to cut MasterChef episodes as Gregg Wallace apologises

Presenter says he felt ‘under siege’ when he dismissed his accusers as ‘middle-class women of a certain age’

www.theguardian.com

 

[HeAthen]

Just about there now, though he's only apologising about the 'middle class women' thing:

BBC rejects call to cut MasterChef episodes as Gregg Wallace apologises

Presenter says he felt ‘under siege’ when he dismissed his accusers as ‘middle-class women of a certain age’

www.theguardian.com

Indeed, not quite the apology it's being portrayed as.

Wallace apologised for “any offence caused”

^^ taken from the BBC story. So, only sorry people are offended, not that sorry for him being a twat.

 

[Wilf]

The BBC have just pulled Christmas specials of his show. Whether they air those programmes isn't the central issue, but what a fucking bunch of geniuses they are waiting this long. Has there ever been a story where a mass of allegations emerge and the broadcasters stick with broadcasting the programmes and everything works out fine? You've clearly been allowing his scumbag to operate for years, so get ahead of the story, FFS!

BBC pulls two MasterChef Christmas specials amid Gregg Wallace scandal

Change in festive schedule comes after Wallace stepped away from hosting cookery show amid allegations about his behaviour

www.theguardian.com