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Pubs we've lost 2014-2015: The Grosvenor, Stockwell and the Canterbury Arms, Brixton

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Is it worth trying to get them listed as Assets of Community Value?

As I understand it whilst this ultimately wont stop them being redeveloped it puts another hurdle in the way of property developers and gives local people a period of time to come forward with a better plan than closure - theres info on the Camra website http://www.camra.org.uk/listyourlocal

There's been talk of it wrt The Canterbury at least on other threads. I think the thing is that it requires a huge amount of commitment to raising money and then ultimately running the pub, and as far as I can tell (although I'd be pleased to be shown to be wrong) that doesn't appear to be there. Maybe the Grosvenor might be different?

I guess you could use it just to try and delay the sale. I'm not sure it's a great idea though - if it's regularly used purely as a stalling tactic I think they'd just repeal the law.
 
The Ivy House , Peckham Rye was a pretty unique set of circumstances unfortunately. What the Grovesnor needs is a new landlord who is in sympathy with the place and can make it work albeit with the owners approval.
 
What we need is pubs where you can go for a drink without quiz nights, jazz, gigs, comedy etc. Hard to find now in Brixton.

I guess people don't like to talk these days
 
I have, since posting that. It does seem more nuanced than I first thought.

I was surprised when I started reading some of the comments.

Seemed to me that the owner wanted to move on and also that some of these buildings in London are now worth big bucks. Which they didn’t years ago. So its must be tempting to sell to a developer. Blaming it on new people complaining about noise was not main issue.

Like Conway Taverns are doing with the Canterbury Arms. No one is forcing the owners to sell it to a property developer.
 
I was surprised when I started reading some of the comments.

Seemed to me that the owner wanted to move on and also that some of these buildings in London are now worth big bucks. Which they didn’t years ago. So its must be tempting to sell to a developer. Blaming it on new people complaining about noise was not main issue.

Like Conway Taverns are doing with the Canterbury Arms. No one is forcing the owners to sell it to a property developer.

It's (short-term) economics
 
What we need is pubs where you can go for a drink without quiz nights, jazz, gigs, comedy etc. Hard to find now in Brixton.

I guess people don't like to talk these days

The Grosvenor and The Canterbury both have areas you can do that in (although the Canterbury does show the football), as well as the music areas.
 
What we need is pubs where you can go for a drink without quiz nights, jazz, gigs, comedy etc. Hard to find now in Brixton.

I guess people don't like to talk these days

Trinity Arms?
Marquis Of Lorne?
Elm Park Tavern? (apart from on the quiz night, obviously...)
The pubs on New Park Road?
 
The pubs on New Park Rd are all still proper locals, a dying breed, though give it 10 years and they may be gastropubs :-(

I wish we had somewhere like the Ivy House in Brixton, owned and run by the community. It's exactly what we need. Anyone got a spare few million quid?
 
Trinity Arms?
Marquis Of Lorne?
Elm Park Tavern? (apart from on the quiz night, obviously...)
The pubs on New Park Road?

Trinity and EPT both had quiz nights on last night. Effra Social had a soul funk gig; Effra Tavern its usual jazz. Apparently Electric Social had something on too.

We ended up in the White Horse, which was standing room only (and barely that) with a DJ spinning the hard disks. Beer was average. Ended up in Mango Landing which was empty, had good music as ever, and where we could talk.

God I sound old and grumpy.

Next time we'll try the NPR pubs.
 
The pubs on New Park Rd are all still proper locals, a dying breed, though give it 10 years and they may be gastropubs :-(

I wish we had somewhere like the Ivy House in Brixton, owned and run by the community. It's exactly what we need. Anyone got a spare few million quid?

EPT is probably the closest but then goes and spoils it on a Thu with a quiz.
 
The pubs on New Park Rd are all still proper locals, a dying breed, though give it 10 years and they may be gastropubs :-(

I wish we had somewhere like the Ivy House in Brixton, owned and run by the community. It's exactly what we need. Anyone got a spare few million quid?

The Ivy House share offer actually had a relatively low ceiling for individual purchases to stop anyone like that taking over.
 
Thirty people are likely to lose their jobs because of those cowardly new arrival scum.

pretty scummy comment yourself there. I am moving out of the area, but reading these boards for 5 years and having to endure this holier than thou, I was here first, I hate gentrification nonsense is something I wont miss. Gentrification is unstoppable. Change is inevitable. Deal with it you desperate to be offended hippy that is actually making money off your websites, beers, blogs and the rest. The hippy doth protest too much.
 
Field Work said:
I've had some of the best nights of my life in the Grosvenor. No joke. Legendary place.

Me too.
Amazing.
My favourite time was after a really good (folk) session, when this Norwegian Klezmer band turned up at about 1am and we all played tunes together until the wee hours. People were literally dancing on the tables
 
Deal with it you desperate to be offended hippy that is actually making money off your websites, beers, blogs and the rest. The hippy doth protest too much.
The nasty poster doth talk ignorant shite.

FYI: every single penny of profit raised by the beer goes to the local soup kitchen, and profits from all future batches will continue to go the soup kitchen and other local deserving causes.
 
Me too.
Amazing.
My favourite time was after a really good (folk) session, when this Norwegian Klezmer band turned up at about 1am and we all played tunes together until the wee hours. People were literally dancing on the tables
we managed to get them to come back the next night around 3am with promises of blue cheese :D then sent them to the QH aroun 6ish
I really hope they come back
 
The Albert is usually OK for a chat and a drink in the week, There's barely ever any pub quizzes/bands/art performances or anything else going on from Sunday to Monday, although the music can be noticeably louder later in the evening.

I imagine the Trinity is the nearest thing to a quiet pub in Brixton, although some of the long term bar-leaning types can get rowdy there.
 
wemakeyousoundb said:
we managed to get them to come back the next night around 3am with promises of blue cheese :D then sent them to the QH aroun 6ish
I really hope they come back

Oh yes, ha, I heard about that! Party animals! :D
 
We were in The Canterbury yesterday and planning permission for the flats isn't granted or refused so they are still in limbo not knowing what's going to happen.

Also one of the regulars was saying The Beehive in Stockwell is going to be turned into flats. Not sure if that's certain but he was saying its a done deal.
 
We were in The Canterbury yesterday and planning permission for the flats isn't granted or refused so they are still in limbo not knowing what's going to happen.

Also one of the regulars was saying The Beehive in Stockwell is going to be turned into flats. Not sure if that's certain but he was saying its a done deal.
Oh no :(
 
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