Pro-Islamist Left Exposed

[ViolentPanda]

I know sod all about Oswald bleeding Mosley. It was sub-ironic which you all whinged about so I changed it.

I love the Jews like I love everyone else as long as they're good individuals.

"The Jews"?
What sort of arrant fuckwit uses that form of words unless they're a two-bob cunt?

 

[ViolentPanda]

You are EDL or BNP or NF. Fuck off.

None of them would have him. Even Tommy Robinson asked "who the fuck is this cunt?".

 

[ViolentPanda]

I'm not a fan of the British custom of letting your favourite 70s DJ sleep with your kid either

You was a Noel Edmonds fan, innit?

 

[Pickman's model]

I know sod all about Oswald bleeding Mosley. It was sub-ironic which you all whinged about so I changed it.

I love the Jews like I love everyone else as long as they're good individuals.

sub-ironic = not ironic

 

[Pickman's model]

None of them would have him. Even Tommy Robinson asked "who the fuck is this cunt?".

bpp then

 

[ViolentPanda]

bpp then

AKA "the last resort before Rampton".

 

[Pickman's model]

AKA "the last resort before Rampton".

quite

 

[Shakey]

You was a Noel Edmonds fan, innit?

Bruno Brookes

 

[Pickman's model]

Bruno Brookes

i had you down for more of a follower of dave lee travis

 

[frogwoman]

I love the Jews

weirdo

 

[Shakey]

i had you down for more of a follower of dave lee travis

Just goes to show, you can know someone for years and years and still there is a whole other side of them that you had no idea about

 

[Pickman's model]

Just goes to show, you can know someone for years and years and still there is a whole other side of them that you had no idea about

you must have been shocked when all that came out about dlt

 

[Shakey]

I like the debate about the niqab, I still haven't really made my mind up

To me it looks awful, but if they really aren't hurting anyone then fair play. Mind you, everyone used to say that about Saville

 

[xslavearcx]

niqab is only something that is recommended as an act of piety within the hanbali school of jurisprudence in sunni islam (one of 4 schools of law), not something obligatorary. This would suggest to me that there is plenty of scope within the existing paramaters of mainstream islamic religious thought for a half decent debate to take place and thats not even taking into consideration muslim feminist inputs...

 

[Shakey]

niqab is only something that is recommended as an act of piety within the hanbali school of jurisprudence in sunni islam (one of 4 schools of law), not something obligatorary. This would suggest to me that there is plenty of scope within the existing paramaters of mainstream islamic religious thought for a half decent debate to take place and thats not even taking into consideration muslim feminist inputs...

Well that's why I said it's not Islamophobia per se. Whatever school of Islam they are practising is far more offensive to people's sensibilities than headscarves. It seems to me a bit like how some Catholics still have those torture rituals. As well as not judging people based on their beliefs you should also not excuse people based on their beliefs

 

[xslavearcx]

for sure, if bad shit is going on in a particular situation i think one should be able to say what they see. The 'pro-islamist left' are well dodgy in how they denounce everything any criticisms of injustices within muslim societies as islamaphobic. I think it is only when one starts to say that people cannot be progressive because of being confessional muslims then the question of islamphobia comes into being.. i.e when islam is seen in some kind of essentialist light, rather than it being merely a human cultural phenomena that has multiple interpretations and debates and so on...The definition of islamaphobia by the runnymede trust i think is a good standard to judge such matters.. Sadly, the pro-islamist left don't really seem to be guided by such considerations when spewing out accusations of islamaphobia..

 

[Shakey]

The 'pro-islamist left' are well dodgy in how they denounce everything any criticisms of injustices within muslim societies as islamaphobic.

luckily there are only about 3 of them

 

[xslavearcx]

luckily there are only about 3 of them

is that what the swp membership is down to now??

 

[rosecore]

The definition of islamaphobia by the runnymede trust i think is a good standard to judge such matters.. Sadly, the pro-islamist left don't really seem to be guided by such considerations when spewing out accusations of islamaphobia..

Where are they misguided in their accusations of Islamophobia?

 

[treelover]

luckily there are only about 3 of them

I think you will find there are many more than that, go to any mass anti-war/palestine demo and listen to some of the chants and responses to them.

 

[CharlieChaplin]

You are EDL or BNP or NF. Fuck off.

The only three letter acronym I embrace is TLC.

Come here and give me a hug you big old angry goose.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

I know sod all about Oswald bleeding Mosley. It was sub-ironic which you all whinged about so I changed it.

I love the Jews like I love everyone else as long as they're good individuals.

Try getting your story straight; what did you know about Mosley that made you think it would be a 'sub-ironic' choice of user name?

Louis MacNeice

 

[editor]

People find Muslims scary because they walk around with masks over their faces, it's not racism, it's like how children cover their faces up on Halloween to look scary whatever race they are. I suppose you want to ban Halloween now? This country is going to the dogs

Just to clear this up. It's "going to do the dogs" because a tiny proportion of Muslims wear veils over their faces? Have I got that right?

 

[Pickman's model]

The only three letter acronym I embrace is TLC.

Come here and give me a hug you big old angry goose.

not ipa then

 

[CharlieChaplin]

not ipa then

International Phonetic Alphabet? International Psychoanalytical Association?

You are going to have to help me out here pal.

 

[ontheupandup]

Just to clear this up. It's "going to do the dogs" because a tiny proportion of Muslims wear veils over their faces? Have I got that right?

Just to clear this up, you banned me, and then quoted a post I made that was clearly a joke and that I said was a joke afterwards just to make sure that ignorant people realised that it was a joke, and now you are 'pulling me up on this' after kicking me off

Jog on

 

[Pickman's model]

International Phonetic Alphabet? International Psychoanalytical Association?

You are going to have to help me out here pal.

No, I don't have to *pal*

 

[xslavearcx]

Where are they misguided in their accusations of Islamophobia?

Not in all cases obviously, but i think its fairly well known phenomena of a tendency of over-zealousness towards accusations of islamaphobia by segments within the left, ususally when confronted by criticisms of alliances forged with reactionary tendencies within political islam. Somewhat ironic when one considers that islamaphobia (as defined by the runnymeide trust) happens when one caracitures islamic discourse as being 'closed', inherantly conservative, and not open to different progressive interpretations, the irony being of course that the kind of alliances made by the 'pro islamist left' has been with tendencies within political islam that promotes a closed, anti-progressive agenda within islamic discourse.. (e.g swp, respect, stop the war coalition, muslim association of britain and of course, muslim brotherhood.)

 

[Nylock]

If you must fight a war. Fight it as brutally and violently as you can. Letting the enemy get away with human shields just encourages them to do it again.

I hope you are not in any sort of command position above squad level.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

I hope you are not in any sort of command position above squad level.

Dylan, reviewing his troops