Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Ok - that gives an excuse from 2013.....but before then?
Pop Brixton (formerly Grow Brixton) Pope's Road development
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Ok - that gives an excuse from 2013.....but before then?
snowy_again
Slush
But if you're only there for a short period of time to promote a particular charitable message as loudly as possible (and to snaffle a whole new set of young direct debit supporters), you wouldn't want the risk of exposing yourself to spending a week of unplanned and reactive PR fire fighting on an issue you're not really involved in would you? You'd even risk be accused of jumping in their graves.
Security - as in opening and closing a shop each night / PII / other insurance; the stuff a charity doing a demonstration on personal safety will be keen to comply with.
editor
hiraethified
What is this relentless campaign of "unplanned and reactive PR fire fighting" you're fantasising about here? Did Brixton Pound - which took over the much loved deli - face any of it?
Amazingly, loads of small businesses manage to accomplish this task every night without much of a fanfare, or the need to bang on about security, personal safety and insurance issues. You make closing a small, pop up unit sound like a remarkably complex task. It's not.
editor
hiraethified
It was a strip of generally not very well off businesses struggling to survive. They looked OK to me, but then I'm not bothered if a shop exterior is all shiny and groovy.
Perhaps if Lambeth had fluffed £50,000 their way back then they could have made them look pretty.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Just to show that:
There were alternatives to demolishing a car park and importing shipping containers as supposedly ecological alternative
As time goes on commercial Brixton gets up my nose, whereas I fell spiritually closer to Peckham.
What a pity that after my working life has ended I am now locked into hipster vibrancy!
There were alternatives to demolishing a car park and importing shipping containers as supposedly ecological alternative
As time goes on commercial Brixton gets up my nose, whereas I fell spiritually closer to Peckham.
What a pity that after my working life has ended I am now locked into hipster vibrancy!
Rushy
basically a scrotum
I went to a classical concert there last year. It was fun although I would have enjoyed it far more if I'd actually enjoyed the particular music, which unusually had me heading for the exit before the end. The audience was, I'm afraid to tell you, rather hipstery. And of course, the entire site is now run by the team behind Pop.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Did you find your "experience" enhanced by trains going past on that steep curve making sounds like heavy duty angle-grinders?
I feel that Steve Reich is sort of light avant-guarde so it didn't put me out too much this Saturday. It would be fatal in something like "The Lark Ascending" though.
I reckon Lib Peck and the Lambeth Councillors might benefit from a visit to "Derek Jarman's Garden" (as the toilets are so charmingly called). Could be a useful idea for Windrush Square perhaps?
teuchter
je suis teuchter
As it happens I met one of the musicians involved in that, a few weeks ago in the Scottish Highlands.
He was quite into bringing classical music to the people, as it were, outside of concert halls etc. He was telling me about a thing they do in a pub in Sheffield if I remember correctly.
He wasn't far into his description of the slightly exotic place they were going to play in south London before I recognised it as the car park. I decided not to dampen his enthusiasm by telling him they'd be likely be playing to an entirely hipsterfied audience.
He was quite into bringing classical music to the people, as it were, outside of concert halls etc. He was telling me about a thing they do in a pub in Sheffield if I remember correctly.
He wasn't far into his description of the slightly exotic place they were going to play in south London before I recognised it as the car park. I decided not to dampen his enthusiasm by telling him they'd be likely be playing to an entirely hipsterfied audience.
Rushy
basically a scrotum
All said, I would recommend it if you like a bit of classical and are not precious about acoustics. A friend chose the show we went to and the music itself was way too out there for me. But there is lots of other stuff on and it was nevertheless fun and nicely informal.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
This looks alright...
snowy_again
Slush
^^ Dorchester Court residents too
editor
hiraethified
They occasionally put on some decent events at Pop but I would have rather seen them hosted at the Canterbury Arms, where the beer was affordable and the vibes a zillion times better.This looks alright...
A little bird tells me that the noise issues from Pop are nowhere near resolved too. Some neighbours are well pissed off by the racket coming out of the green oasis, surrounded by, yet separate, from the hustle and bustle of city.
Lead Belly
Active Member
I get that pig rhymes with rig and also by no means do you have to be rastafarian to listen to reggae but......
as it is forbidden to eat pork and there is a very heavy link between ratsafari and reggae is it not a slightly unfortunate choice to twin your hog roast business to a reggae sound system? (not to mention being very nu-Brixton)
as it is forbidden to eat pork and there is a very heavy link between ratsafari and reggae is it not a slightly unfortunate choice to twin your hog roast business to a reggae sound system? (not to mention being very nu-Brixton)
Lead Belly
Active Member
presume they don't drop this very often
editor
hiraethified
You'd think so, yes.
Of if they hadn't twigged on to that obvious fact, you might have thought that someone at Pop would have pointed out the crass insensitivity of their offering.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I hereby confess that I have frequently imbibed in alcohol whilst listening to reggae, sometimes in venues whose business revolves around the sale of that substance. I'm not sure whether this is more or less "unfortunate" than the pork scenario.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
I hadn't noticed the hog roast tie in, but I'm not that fussed by it.
If they were flogging jerk chicken and curried goat they'd be criticised for cultural appropriation....
Both of which wouldn't be acceptable to any rasta following a strict ital diet.
If they were flogging jerk chicken and curried goat they'd be criticised for cultural appropriation....
Both of which wouldn't be acceptable to any rasta following a strict ital diet.
T & P
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editor
hiraethified
They already seem to be doing mighty fine on that score already. They're perfect for Pop Brixton.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
If I nip along I shall deliver a full report...
Lead Belly
Active Member
Touché! A huge pig on a spit though at a reggae do?
The bigger point to me though is this is Pop at it's worst, the so-called community project's reggae night isn't one involving one of the many local sound systems that have been present in the area for years and years but a new trendy reggae hog roast that some in the local reggae listening community could take offense to.
snowy_again
Slush
People like Keith Lawrence?
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Full event details:
Pig&Rig presents ‘Reggae n That’ – an all day summer showcase celebrating the rich history & diversity of reggae. From Studio 1 originals to current producers & releases, ska & rocksteady to heavy roots & hypnotic dub they’ll be no corner untouched! With an exceptional line up this is event is not to be missed.
Line Up:
Mr Faso Rootikal
Born and bred in Apulia, the part of Italy defined as “The Italian Jamaica” , Growing up listening to a variety of black music, with reggae music founding his principal passion. Moving to London where the legendary Earl Gateshead (Trojan Sound System selector) involved him in a monthly night called ROOTIKAL, where David Rodigan has been a regular guest for 2 years. In the last 2 years he has shared the stage with reggae icons like Alborosie, Chronixx & Protoje as well as mashing up the sound with Aba Shanti & Channel One. A regular on reggae-dub circuit.
Dub Organiser Sound system
Feat: Keith Lawrence & Stu
Playing the finest Jamaican Revival Music ,from the last 5 decades, straight from the 45! Rockstone selections from Dub Organiser's 'Rankin' General' Keith Lawrence (Mi-Soul Radio/ Muzik-Ed records) and 'Ital' Stu Tolhurst
100% Authentic roots and culture guaranteed brought to you in fine style on Dub Organiser Hi-Fi. Step in style all the while!
Additional Selectas:
Reuben Vibes (Kwaku)
Mr.Gibbon (Pig&Rig)
Melton John (Wizard Sleeve)
Froding Blageez (Pig&Rig)
Princess Jobe
Pig&Rig presents ‘Reggae n That’ – an all day summer showcase celebrating the rich history & diversity of reggae. From Studio 1 originals to current producers & releases, ska & rocksteady to heavy roots & hypnotic dub they’ll be no corner untouched! With an exceptional line up this is event is not to be missed.
Line Up:
Mr Faso Rootikal
Born and bred in Apulia, the part of Italy defined as “The Italian Jamaica” , Growing up listening to a variety of black music, with reggae music founding his principal passion. Moving to London where the legendary Earl Gateshead (Trojan Sound System selector) involved him in a monthly night called ROOTIKAL, where David Rodigan has been a regular guest for 2 years. In the last 2 years he has shared the stage with reggae icons like Alborosie, Chronixx & Protoje as well as mashing up the sound with Aba Shanti & Channel One. A regular on reggae-dub circuit.
Dub Organiser Sound system
Feat: Keith Lawrence & Stu
Playing the finest Jamaican Revival Music ,from the last 5 decades, straight from the 45! Rockstone selections from Dub Organiser's 'Rankin' General' Keith Lawrence (Mi-Soul Radio/ Muzik-Ed records) and 'Ital' Stu Tolhurst
100% Authentic roots and culture guaranteed brought to you in fine style on Dub Organiser Hi-Fi. Step in style all the while!
Additional Selectas:
Reuben Vibes (Kwaku)
Mr.Gibbon (Pig&Rig)
Melton John (Wizard Sleeve)
Froding Blageez (Pig&Rig)
Princess Jobe
editor
hiraethified
And there you have it in a nutshell. There's no shortage of - shall we say - more credible reggae soundsystems in the area who have been crafting their talent for years - but instead Pop puts on some jolly nice young chaps from Norfolk with a trendy pig roast.Touché! A huge pig on a spit though at a reggae do?
The bigger point to me though is this is Pop at it's worst, the so-called community project's reggae night isn't one involving one of the many local sound systems that have been present in the area for years and years but a new trendy reggae hog roast that some in the local reggae listening community could take offense to.
Rushy
basically a scrotum
Maybe Pop just took a look at the 414's experience of authentic and credible reggae nights. Didn't 414's decide to avoid them because too much trouble usually followed? And when someone convinced them that they should give it another go, someone got shot, they almost lost their licence and got lumbered with scanners? About three years ago, iirc. To be honest if it's too tricky for an experienced club like 414, Pop would have no chance.
T & P
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Are Pop the only venue in Brixton "overlooking" local talent and booking artists from outside the area? Are they supposed to use people from the local community at 100% of events hosted at the place? And if not, is it such a terrible offence that they have on this occasion? Or just another go at trying to have a go at them at every single possible opportunity, not matter how straw-clutching it can be (notice the finger of blame swiftly being pointed elsewhere as soon as the 'insensitive food' argument was countered)?
