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That 'expectation' could be handy in persuading Tory voters not to make the effort. Kind of hope it stays high. Maybe the YouTube crap will frighten them into turning out. (Got to be said, what sort of demographic do they think uses YouTube?)
What is the YouTube crap?

Is it social media advertising that I've read about?
 
My kids (9 & 7) are complaining about the scary ad on YouTube. Fuck knows why you'd have it autoplaying before some Minecraft game review, but there it is.
 
My kids (9 & 7) are complaining about the scary ad on YouTube. Fuck knows why you'd have it autoplaying before some Minecraft game review, but there it is.

Vid aimed at young people in (I assume) a marginal constituency
 
I wonder whether repeatedly seeing "this man could be Prime Minister" and just Corbyn's face then not watching the rest, which is how a lot of people will experience these adverts, might actually be good for Labour...
The current tory tactic has a number of weaknesses along these lines - the constant Who do you want negotiating brexit, Corbyn or May line only works in their favour as long as May retains an air of competence and reliability - which she is rapidly losing.
 
I've had a green councillor round, Bennett is standing here (sheffield central). Nothing otherwise... I know my CLP has been up Halifax, where the labour vote is marginal and UKIP were at 12% in 2015. Also Penistone & Stocksbridge, where it's a lot less marginal, but where UKIP got 22% in 2015.
 
I've had a green councillor round, Bennett is standing here (sheffield central). Nothing otherwise... I know my CLP has been up Halifax, where the labour vote is marginal and UKIP were at 12% in 2015. Also Penistone & Stocksbridge, where it's a lot less marginal, but where UKIP got 22% in 2015.

Makes sense, there is no way that Labour can lose Sheffield Central especially now that the Greens are splitting the middle-class but not Tory vote.
 
Just watched that.

When it auto plays, can it be skipped? I just automatically skip ads whenever I'm faced with them. And if they can't be skipped I do something else while waiting (or give up on whatever it was I was trying to do when the ad interrupted). Am I unusual in that?

If that's playing to primary aged children, I think they're wasting their money. Jezza won't be Labour leader when they get round to voting.

Is it just YouTube it's on? (And what is the age demographic that uses YouTube?)
 
Not at all marginal. Solid Labour round here.

Same here (more than 50% in last election). If targeted by location surely this will come under constituency expenses, which there is a cap on, so maybe they're targeting by some other method (age/gender/interests). They've had huge amounts in donations from scared rich people so maybe they're spending that throwing this crap about as much as they can.
 
One thing that YouGov tool does confirm is that you're a fucking idiot if you're going to vote LD to keep the Tories out.

Twickenham. My seat :(

It looks likely to be the only lib dem gain of the evening. A progressive alliance with errr....... Vince Cable. Oh bright new day!
 
Have we done this Ipsos MORI poll for STV?



Scotland:
SNP 43%
Cons 25%
Lab 25%
Lib Dems 5%
Greens 1%
UKIP 1%

Labour were on 13% and Tories 30% in a (YouGov?) poll a couple of weeks ago
 
No, they'll suddenly become available for Cabinet positions once more and demand their 'experience' is called upon

Which all begs a question which doesn't seem to be asked yet. Should JC actually squeak it somehow would he be able to get much of the manifesto through parliament? The PLP is still stacked with Blairites and the short notice for the election has prevented much manipulating of the other candidates so they'll be the usual rag tag Blairites that have been hanging around for a while.

All of this is cloud cuckoo land mind.
 
Have we done this Ipsos MORI poll for STV?



Scotland:
SNP 43%
Cons 25%
Lab 25%
Lib Dems 5%
Greens 1%
UKIP 1%

Labour were on 13% and Tories 30% in a (YouGov?) poll a couple of weeks ago

It means the Tory gains in Scotland we were talking about then may not happen. But Labour's recovery, unless clumped, won't recover it any seats. So if this is right, the SNP would be the beneficiary.

I'd be delighted if the Tories in Scotland went back to third place. They've been smug as fuck. About being a poor second.
 
It means the Tory gains in Scotland we were talking about then may not happen. But Labour's recovery, unless clumped, won't recover it any seats. So if this is right, the SNP would be the beneficiary.
Yes, suspect Labour haven't done enough there to recover - 25% is only marginally up on two years ago. Could hold on to Edinburgh South I guess, suppose there could be some churn - SNP got 50% in 2015 so a drop to 43-45 may see a couple of seats go elsewhere.

LD down again, from 7.5% in 2015. However, if 2015 couldn't shift Carmichael from the islands then I doubt he'll go now either. Orkney & Shetland Liberal since 1950 & only 17 years without a Liberal/Whig MP in 200 years :eek:
 
Really? And yet the Tories seem to have decimated* their lead. Doesn't seem to have worked.


(*I know).

Anti-Clinton attack ads, customised and targetted using crafty algorithms, are credited by many with helping trump to victory. The tories' version seems much more ham-fisted. The way their ad is edited makes it obvious that it's a selective-quoting hatchet job, and as others have pointed out the still image of Corbyn with the phrase 'this man could be prime minister' could just as easily have the opposite effect to the one they're after.

There doesn't seem to be any targetting going on. There's no positive message from the tories to counterbalance the negative anti-Corbyn stuff. Remember Cameron's 2010 billboards? He was everywhere, telling people he was gonna do this that and the other. All bullshit of course, but he was at least looking like a man who wanted the job rather than a man who just didn't want someone else to have it.
 
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