Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
I wouldn't go as far as say he's dull, but I would never listen to a show of just him talking. It is all about the guest - and where else are you going to hear the people I mentioned talking for up to 3 hours?
People like Louis CK and Norm Macdonald and Joe Rogan and Nick Mullen and so on and so on...
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I wouldn't go as far as say he's dull, but I would never listen to a show of just him talking. It is all about the guest - and where else are you going to hear the people I mentioned talking for up to 3 hours?
maomao
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And that's a professional outfit. Imagine how boring radio would be if there were fourteen million radio stations and no quality control. Cause that's what podcasts are.
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Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Nope, but do listen to a couple of their shows on podcast apps. It's just another medium like telly or film or literature - 99% of it is shite
I first heard of him because there were some protests against him doing a speaking tour and I think that he was abandoned by who was promoting because he said some very weird stuff about paedophilia.
I do know that he was famous on social media quite a while before I knew about him.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
So, okay, no offence, you know basically nothing about him or his influence or position or history. I mean that's fine, but just so you know, your initial take was completely wrong.
Nah that's true, I just can't get interested in Twitter world. I was more using him as an example of the 'sunlight is a good disinfectant' idea
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
And that was what I was saying was completely the wrong way round. Lack of sunlight was the best disinfectant.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
I'm sure there is loads of material out there which is better than supposedly professional outfits. I'm not sure everything benefits from being filtered through the BBC (much as I'll defend the BBC at times).
Elon Musk podcast was good.
There is an advantage to this as well.
Whatever you think of the Joe Rogan show, having famous people do 2 or 3 hour long unstructured interviews is something that could not exist on BBC or corporate radio
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Do we ever need to hear 3 hours worth of opinions from some dickhead who thinks Sandy Hook was a hoax or that DMT connects you to alien intelligence?
So you've watched some JR podcasts?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
i've listened to a few. never watched them cos why bother, it's an audio medium
Which ones?
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
There are all kinds of different podcasts.
I agree with this 1000%. But with DIY comes responsibility, that is the hard work that gets missed very often.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
the Elon Musk one was the last one I sampled, but can't remember the others as I subscribed to his podcast a few years ago after hearing Scroobius Pip talking about him - soon unsubscribed as he was a crashing unfunny macho bore
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Okay, I've vaguely heard of the proud boys. Having a quick sample now...
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Definitely comes across as a bit of a twat and that's just from some random snippets.
Clair De Lune
Apocalypse cocktails
Fair enough...I only watched about 10 minutes of one while I ran a bath. I'm kinda intrigued now though so perhaps this convo is counterproductive
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
There are a few repeat guests (and "hang out" type episodes) but it doesn't characterise his podcast overall. There are plenty of people who appear that aren't "lads", or "bros" in American terms, and even some women! Was just reminded after watching Louis Theroux on the box tonight that he's been on a couple of times. There's also a recent one with Miley Cyrus.
This is something that this conversation hasn't really gone into much. The Joe Rogan podcast is a crazy phenomenon, it seems to have almost turned into a cult.
I think that this thread has been a bit of a car crash and I'm to blame for a lot of it by setting it up in a clumsy way and arguing very badly on very sensitive topics, but I do think that even taking the position that he is bigoted and boring, there is still a fascinating topic as to how and why he has become so influential, and also what will happen. I get the impression that he doesn't get it either, I know that he is so rich and famous that his 'regular guy' thing is a bit of a put on, but his show does seem to me to be a thing that has never happened before and not in some fake way. When I first heard it, except comedians he was talking to people who were studying stuff like aliens and pyramids
Ok, I am coming from a place of ignorance, but wasn't he a big deal because of Breitbart and Twitter and had managed to get a huge following before he was mainstream?
I know that there is a lot of shadiness with the way that these people are promoted by these organisations to espouse certain ideas and agendas, but he did seem to be a person who gained a following and then getting on these mainstream things like Bill Maher and Joe Rogan was what did for him
maomao
普費斯
So conclusions on the names in the title.
1) Louis CK - sex case
2) Joe Rogan - boring, history of racist and homophobic language, regularly gives platforms to the absolute worst kind of people
3) Norm MacDonald - Jobbing comedian, very funny, stuck up for CK and Roseanne Barr but has kept his mouth shut since.
4) Nick Mullen - Who the fuck is Nick Mullen? Surely it's his turn now.
1) Louis CK - sex case
2) Joe Rogan - boring, history of racist and homophobic language, regularly gives platforms to the absolute worst kind of people
3) Norm MacDonald - Jobbing comedian, very funny, stuck up for CK and Roseanne Barr but has kept his mouth shut since.
4) Nick Mullen - Who the fuck is Nick Mullen? Surely it's his turn now.
I tried listening to one on Saturday. Opened with 7 full minutes of ads. Then he was waffling on, getting donkies and muels mixed up, with a comedian I've never heard of. Not so bad the last bit there are loads of course but not many lols in the bit I heard. And it was 2 hours long.
I might check out some of the more noteable ones.
Does he present DIY SOS on BBC1?
maomao
普費斯
No.
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