discokermit
Well-Known Member
al murray is worse in real life than his stage persona. an aristo looking down on the lower middle class.
People like Louis CK and Norm Macdonald and Joe Rogan and Nick Mullen and so on and so on...
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Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
but that's ok cos he's a comedian!
Repulsive Joe Rogan Facing Criticism For Laughing About Sexual Assault - Jim Heath TV
Joe Rogan is facing backlash after a resurfaced video showed his laughing as fellow comedian Joey ‘Coco’ Diaz spoke about coercing women into performing oral sex to get stage time. The disturbing footage was shared to Twitter as part of a larger thread on sexual harassment in the Los Angeles...jimheath.tv
It will be interesting to hear what he has to say. I have no idea what the reality of that comedy scenes is, but bear in mind Joe has female comedian friends. Bottom line is I don't really listen to Joe Rogan for Joe Rogan - I listen because he has an interesting guest on and they might get to talk for 2 - 3 hours.
Tbh, I have watched the clip with JR and that big bloke who was retelling his story of exploiting a young woman into oral sex - and I physically recoiled in disgust.
I only saw the short clip via a Twitter link but it was horrific.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
'he must be ok, he has female friends'
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
I liked the Russell Brand one. Previously I'd always been turned off by him/thought he was a dick.
The point isn't that 100% of his content is objectionable; or even 20% or 10%. The point is that a small fraction of it is, but because he has such a massive audience (and a huge quantity of content) this might have a disproportionate influence on society. The ideas are getting smuggled in, disguised by a load of benign material. It is insidious. And he is making tons of money out of it so doesn't care.
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It was somewhat similar with Jordan Peterson. The majority of his stuff is fairly benign and hackneyed self-help material, so a load of young men started almost worshipping him (I guess because they hadnt heard this stuff done better a billion times before), but there was a consistent undercurrent of dodgy culture war material running simultaneously that you could not avoid if you consumed his content.
And again he made a ton of money out of it which was probably his main personal goal. Of course he was a fairly short-lived fad thank goodness.
And again he made a ton of money out of it which was probably his main personal goal. Of course he was a fairly short-lived fad thank goodness.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
This is absolutely, 100%, completely not the case. What produced Milo was that he was everywhere and every outlet promoted his every word. What stopped Milo was when people stopped paying attention and just didn't publish what he said.
Clair De Lune
Apocalypse cocktails
Hmm isn't that the nature of interviewers though? To have a diverse range of guests and to find out more about their take on the world I mean. We can't no platform everyone we disagree with and if someone becomes more right leaning after watching his show then they are pretty easily led and some Gary down the pub could have just as easily led them astray.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
A small amount of most things could be objectionable. In my friend circle, I've yet to see anyone been warped by Joe Rogan. Well, my veggie friend says he wants to go to the U.S. and hunt elk, but I'll be amazed if that actually happens... I find it more worrying that some folk set out looking for the worst to discredit people -trawling through hours of material to find 10 minutes from years ago that supposedly proves someone is a total monster. Can things only be broadcast if the material is 100% squeaky clean - and who decides what material is objectionable or what opinions are allowed to be heard? Yeah, some of his guests (and Joe himself) have voiced opinions that I really don't agree with. Some right-wing guests I've given a chance but have then had to switch off. But I'd rather make that decision of my own accord than have it made for me - either via official censorship or Joe being cancelled/de-platformed.
Reno
The In Kraut
I took that as the suggestion for Joe Rogan to deplatform right wing guests
They are not straight interviews, they are a lads club hang out.
The whole schtick is to make the listener feel like part of a club of mates. Anyone who appears becomes part of that club.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
It's very hard to sit through a 3 hour Joe Rogan podcast - he's very dull indeed, the toxic shit he and his guests broadcast aside. He just comes off as a despicable human being who like fighting and drugs.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Let's be fair, podcasts are dull. All of them.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
No, he's not and has little chance of being, but I'm sure some people would like to see it happen. I'm not against a certain amount of de-platforming in extreme circumstances - I never wept when Tommy Robinson was kicked off various social media platforms, but I think TR really does encourage violence against minorities.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
disagree strongly - they keep me sane. listen to a lot of them.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
That does not mean that they are not dull. Sometimes dull things can be rewarding.
maomao
普費斯
No-one's suggested banning him though. And no-one here has that power. We've been asked for our opinions and we've said he's boring, says dodgy things and regularly gives a platform to really really dodgy people. Actual fascists like Gavin MacKenzie. You're the one that's objecting to other people's opinions.
JimW
支那暗杀团
Occasionally listen to Doug Henwood's Left Business Observer, load of voices you (well, I at least) don't hear anywhere else. But definitely not my favourite format.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Not true. The recent Oliver Stone one was excellent, but mainly because OS has U.S. politics nailed. Michael Pollan, Paul Stamets, a climate change journalist (which many on the right would hate, can't remember his name off the top off my head), Tulsi Gabbard, Russell Brand, Eddie Izzard... Those are just a few that I've enjoyed right to the end.
Ok, well if it's not going to happen and I never suggested it happening then it's not really relevant!
I'm just trying to ruin his podcasts for you ha
maomao
普費斯
Gavin MacKenzie is a fascist who openly advocates violence and he's had him on twice. And you're upset people who have no power over him think he's boring and dangerous.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
I can't know the precise background of everyone he's had on. Never heard of GM and I have no idea what opinions were expressed during those particular episodes.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
how are they are dull if they're on something you're interested in? they're just radio programmes that you can choose when to listen to. they cover a vast range of subjects.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Rogan himself is dull
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
that's alright then
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
The vast majority of radio programmes were always super dull even before they were offered up as podcasts. Did you never listen to Radio 4?
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