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Pensioner arrested on suspicion of murder after a suspected burglar was stabbed to death.

Billy Jeeves wanted in connection with Hither Green burglary in which Henry Vincent died (click for more)

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Billy Jeeves, 28, is being sought by police following the burglary in Hither Green

He can count himself lucky we are not in the US, as he would have probably been charged with the murder of the dead burglar, thanks to this law that I had not heard of until today:

In the US, you don't have to kill to be a murderer
 
I was reading that yesterday.

Fucking bananas.

A group of lads go to burgle a house, a copper kills one of them and the dead kid's mate gets done for murder. :D
Sort of shit is why I will never go to america. if they would let me in. which they probbly won't which is another reason I wont go there. fucking nutters americans are. fucking nutters.
 
What would they do if it was a group of, say, five burglars? Send all surviving four guys down for murder? Fucking bonkers country...
 
What would they do if it was a group of, say, five burglars? Send all surviving four guys down for murder? Fucking bonkers country...

Yes. In the article above four of the dead boy's accomplices have been convicted of murder because of the cop's shooting.
 
Billy Jeeves wanted in connection with Hither Green burglary in which Henry Vincent died (click for more)

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Billy Jeeves, 28, is being sought by police following the burglary in Hither Green
The fact they haven't yet spoken to him - the bloke who may well have been a witness to the stabbing - makes it odd that the police announced no further action against the pensioner last Friday. Not suggesting there would be any other outcome - and rightly - but the OB did seem keen to keep ahead of public opinion on this one and acted very quickly. I've not much sympathy for the bloke who got killed given the way he was preying on the elderly, but the OB have, essentially, interviewed one person on a fatal stabbing - the bloke who did it - and accepted his word. Again, to be clear, I've every sympathy with the old bloke and glad he's not had to go through it for a fortnight, but there seems to have been a willingness to at the very least truncate the whole thing to stop the police coming under media fire.
 
Yeah. I'm pretty sure coley meant anti social families involved in crime. Not seen any traveller connection mentioned at all on here. Red herring IMO.
Think ddraig has a long memory, I had a pop many years ago at 'low lifes' in my area who masqueraded as 'travellers'
But, a scumbag is a scumbag, irrespective of colour, ethnic background or whatever.
 
Sort of shit is why I will never go to america. if they would let me in. which they probbly won't which is another reason I wont go there. fucking nutters americans are. fucking nutters.
Narrow that down a bit, Trump supporting white evangical, Koch Bros/Mercer sponsored GOP voting Muricans tend to be "nutters"
Some of the others appear to be relatively normal
 
Sort of shit is why I will never go to america. if they would let me in. which they probbly won't which is another reason I wont go there. fucking nutters americans are. fucking nutters.

Some of them, aye. I know of some who won't go to the UK because of rampant socialism, no-go-areas and "muslim overlords". :rolleyes::facepalm:

America is a headtrip of a place. It's not all madness and injustice.
 
A group of lads go to burgle a house, a copper kills one of them and the dead kid's mate gets done for murder. :D
The reasoning being scrote enterprise. If there hadn't been attempted or actual crime, no police bullet would have been fired. All scrotes generated the crime, all scrotes supported the crime, thus all scrotes are responsible for any possible consequences, which are not difficult to predict.
 
The fact they haven't yet spoken to him - the bloke who may well have been a witness to the stabbing - makes it odd that the police announced no further action against the pensioner last Friday. Not suggesting there would be any other outcome - and rightly - but the OB did seem keen to keep ahead of public opinion on this one and acted very quickly. I've not much sympathy for the bloke who got killed given the way he was preying on the elderly, but the OB have, essentially, interviewed one person on a fatal stabbing - the bloke who did it - and accepted his word. Again, to be clear, I've every sympathy with the old bloke and glad he's not had to go through it for a fortnight, but there seems to have been a willingness to at the very least truncate the whole thing to stop the police coming under media fire.

There might have been other witnesses to some of it (well, we know there were to the part on the street). Besides, it's not like they can't change their minds later if new evidence emerges.
 
The fact they haven't yet spoken to him - the bloke who may well have been a witness to the stabbing - makes it odd that the police announced no further action against the pensioner last Friday. Not suggesting there would be any other outcome - and rightly - but the OB did seem keen to keep ahead of public opinion on this one and acted very quickly. I've not much sympathy for the bloke who got killed given the way he was preying on the elderly, but the OB have, essentially, interviewed one person on a fatal stabbing - the bloke who did it - and accepted his word. Again, to be clear, I've every sympathy with the old bloke and glad he's not had to go through it for a fortnight, but there seems to have been a willingness to at the very least truncate the whole thing to stop the police coming under media fire.

The guidelines are that following an arrest for murder and when someone is in custody, the police have to refer the case to the CPS within 24 hours 'wherever practicable' for 'early investigative advice', so the timescale is normal here.

It's the CPS that decides what charges, if any, will be made, it's the CPS that took the decision that no further action would be taken in this case.
 
Burglars really are absolute vermin. I live at home with my mum and nan and it has occurred to me that it's on my and my brother to protect the house. Can't imagine how terrifying it'd be for us to deal with some cunt in our home, never mind for older people with limited mobility and whatnot

well done the old boy
 
The fact they haven't yet spoken to him - the bloke who may well have been a witness to the stabbing - makes it odd that the police announced no further action against the pensioner last Friday. Not suggesting there would be any other outcome - and rightly - but the OB did seem keen to keep ahead of public opinion on this one and acted very quickly. I've not much sympathy for the bloke who got killed given the way he was preying on the elderly, but the OB have, essentially, interviewed one person on a fatal stabbing - the bloke who did it - and accepted his word. Again, to be clear, I've every sympathy with the old bloke and glad he's not had to go through it for a fortnight, but there seems to have been a willingness to at the very least truncate the whole thing to stop the police coming under media fire.
No that makes it more of an open and shut case. If the accomplice stayed with his mate and had a story that clashed with what the pensioner said then that would be one thing. But leaving your accomplice dying in the street, running off, burning your van out, and going into hiding is a big signal that the two of you weren't there innocently and you don't have anything to add that you care about more than saving your own back. Then forensics will have corroborated the pensioner's story, so they don't need a witness.
 
The reasoning being scrote enterprise. If there hadn't been attempted or actual crime, no police bullet would have been fired. All scrotes generated the crime, all scrotes supported the crime, thus all scrotes are responsible for any possible consequences, which are not difficult to predict.
No, this goes much further than joint enterprise. With JE they are all prosecuted equally for a crime that one or more of them committed. Here they are being prosecuted for the killing of one of their own number by a policeman.
 
Tony, the bigger worry is that there isn't a load of ordinary people giving them grief for doing so.


It's a wee bit twisted that they're leaving them outside the home of their scumbag relatives victim.

This veneration of the criminal, it's appalling. Me, I'm embarrassed to come from a family that commited similar criminal acts (and much worse). I cannot conceive of flaunting these connections with pride.

I'm glad to see locals have pulled down the tributes. I'm disappointed they didn't piss on them afterwards.
 
Not seen any traveller connection mentioned at all on here. Red herring IMO.

From that DM article :

A traveller friend of a burglar stabbed to death by his victim has warned his friends and family 'won't rest until they get revenge'.

The man, who once beat career criminal Henry Vincent, 37, in a bare knuckle fight, told MailOnline his relatives are seeking revenge after Richard Osborn-Brooks, 78, 'killed one of their own'.
 
The flowers were mainly from his children and partner apparently. He was clearly a fucking scumbag but even scumbags have people they love and who loved them so I’m not going to condemn his family for grieving for him.
Pretty fucking shit putting the flowers opposite the house though and does seem more like a warning than a tribute but who knows.
 
The flowers were mainly from his children and partner apparently. He was clearly a fucking scumbag but even scumbags have people they love and who loved them so I’m not going to condemn his family for grieving for him.
Pretty fucking shit putting the flowers opposite the house though and does seem more like a warning than a tribute but who knows.

That don't wash.

His children and partner (and othet assorted scumbag relatives) knew how he died, they can do their memorial and grieving elsewhere. It must be tough to lose somwons but all the same, they knew what he was and how he lived. This is on him and his family, it's their fault. If they want to mark where he truly died, they need leave their poxy tributes at home.

Leaving them outside the old boys house seems more like intimidation to me as well as being crass and insensitive.
 
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