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Palestine solidarity demos in the UK

The Met argument is that the demo route today would cause "disruption" due to it being in their view near a synagogue.

Even though march route didn't pass synagogue

They also said there was a "cumulative" impact of these marches.

What's that supposed to mean? They haven't caused any trouble. Ie no synagogues have been attacked.
Invidious and a slur on the protestors to suggest that they are antisemitic. Hell, there may well have been members of that synagogue on the march, given the sizeable Jewish presence on them.

It's that explicit or all-too-often implicit 'anti-Zionism = anti-Semtism' trope yet again. Benjamin Netanyahu would approve.
 
Invidious and a slur on the protestors to suggest that they are antisemitic. Hell, there may well have been members of that synagogue on the march, given the sizeable Jewish presence on them.

It's that explicit or all-too-often implicit 'anti-Zionism = anti-Semtism' trope yet again. Benjamin Netanyahu would approve.

I will see if I can upload photos tomorrow.

At Whitehall the Jewish Bloc had big presence.

Including anti Zionist Jewish groups.

Anti Zionist Jews don't get taken seriously.

For example people like Chief Rabbi Zionism is central to Judaism. Thus negating Jews who do not hold his views. In effect saying they aren't properly Jewish
 
Heddlu where very handsy and rough yesterday

What a petty revenge to nick so many people for just being in trafalgar square. Colossal waste of everyone's time. The CPS must be so pissed off at the extent of nonsense cases caused by law changes and petty policing decisions about protest
 
From what I saw some of the cops looked bewildered. Did not understand when I saw some people asking why are you stopping us marching.

I did see a couple of incidents. People weren't happy. Saw the so called community liaison officer doing the show of being helpful.

The stock answer was I don't make the rules.

The cops I saw didn't appear to be aware of the fact that the march had been banned and people were understandably annoyed.

A lot of them did not have London accents. So brought in for the weekend.
 
I've sent this to my MP


I'm emailing you my concerns of the policing of the demo on Saturday about Gaza.

Over last year I've been to many of these demos. They have been well organised and stewarded by Palestine Solidarity Campaign and the other groups working with them.

The demo on Saturday route had been agreed to be from Portland Place to Whitehall.

I have attended previous demo going from Portland Place. At which there was no trouble.

Over last few weeks extra conditions brought in by Police led to people like me not knowing what was going to happen until last minute.

There was imo no valid reason to alter the route and bring in extra conditions.

The original starting point was not near the Synagogue. Nor did the march route go by it. It from that point moves away from it.

At the demo on Saturday there were as usual a lot of people with families and a play area had been set up for children.

As usual the atmosphere was good natured at the demo with a cross section on people there.

The large presence of police was in my opinion intimidating.

There have been a series of marches over last months which had a large number of people with children and had been peaceful. There has not been a breakdown in public order at previous marches.

So the extra conditions put on this demo were not justified.

It was difficult to get into and out of Whitehall. I had to advise some of how to get in and out as early on Police were blocking main ways to gain access to the demo

This caused more tension not less. If the previously agreed march route had been allowed there would have been no serious trouble on that day. Given the record of previous marches.

I'm concerned that the Met are using the Public Order Act to effectively curtail demonstrations on spurious grounds.

The Met in this instance over stepped the mark. As my MP will you ask questions directed to the Met what was the evidence basis for these extra conditions on the demo. As I don't see them anywhere.

Also ask the Met why after meetings with march organisers were extra conditions brought in late in the day. As my understanding is that the march organisers had planned ahead and thought it was all agreed with Met.



On a secondary note I'm concerned that the Labour Government are continuing the appeal started by the previous Tory government about public order rules.

Government ‘showing disregard for the law’, Liberty warns in anti-protest legal challenge - Liberty

As my MP do you agree that the new Labour government should continue this appeal? As if successful it would could be used to limit legitimate peaceful protest. Which is a cornerstone of a democratic society.

From the Liberty article.
The legislation, which significantly reduced the threshold at which the police could impose almost-unlimited conditions on protests to anything that they deemed caused ‘more than minor disruption’, had been brought in by then Home Secretary Suella Braverman in June 2023. Previously the threshold had been set at anything that caused ‘serious disruption’.
Liberty challenged the legislation in court, arguing that it was unlawful since it had already been democratically rejected by Parliament just a few months earlier, and was subsequently brought in “via the back door” through ‘secondary legislation’, which required less Parliamentary scrutiny and debate.
In May 2024, the High Court agreed with Liberty’s arguments, ruling that “more than minor cannot mean serious”. The Court also found that the Government had failed to undertake a fair consultation period, instead only inviting thoughts from those it knew would be supportive of its proposals, such as the police but not protest groups.
 
I've sent this to my MP


I'm emailing you my concerns of the policing of the demo on Saturday about Gaza.

Over last year I've been to many of these demos. They have been well organised and stewarded by Palestine Solidarity Campaign and the other groups working with them.

The demo on Saturday route had been agreed to be from Portland Place to Whitehall.

I have attended previous demo going from Portland Place. At which there was no trouble.

Over last few weeks extra conditions brought in by Police led to people like me not knowing what was going to happen until last minute.

There was imo no valid reason to alter the route and bring in extra conditions.

The original starting point was not near the Synagogue. Nor did the march route go by it. It from that point moves away from it.

At the demo on Saturday there were as usual a lot of people with families and a play area had been set up for children.

As usual the atmosphere was good natured at the demo with a cross section on people there.

The large presence of police was in my opinion intimidating.

There have been a series of marches over last months which had a large number of people with children and had been peaceful. There has not been a breakdown in public order at previous marches.

So the extra conditions put on this demo were not justified.

It was difficult to get into and out of Whitehall. I had to advise some of how to get in and out as early on Police were blocking main ways to gain access to the demo

This caused more tension not less. If the previously agreed march route had been allowed there would have been no serious trouble on that day. Given the record of previous marches.

I'm concerned that the Met are using the Public Order Act to effectively curtail demonstrations on spurious grounds.

The Met in this instance over stepped the mark. As my MP will you ask questions directed to the Met what was the evidence basis for these extra conditions on the demo. As I don't see them anywhere.

Also ask the Met why after meetings with march organisers were extra conditions brought in late in the day. As my understanding is that the march organisers had planned ahead and thought it was all agreed with Met.



On a secondary note I'm concerned that the Labour Government are continuing the appeal started by the previous Tory government about public order rules.

Government ‘showing disregard for the law’, Liberty warns in anti-protest legal challenge - Liberty

As my MP do you agree that the new Labour government should continue this appeal? As if successful it would could be used to limit legitimate peaceful protest. Which is a cornerstone of a democratic society.

From the Liberty article.
The legislation, which significantly reduced the threshold at which the police could impose almost-unlimited conditions on protests to anything that they deemed caused ‘more than minor disruption’, had been brought in by then Home Secretary Suella Braverman in June 2023. Previously the threshold had been set at anything that caused ‘serious disruption’.
Liberty challenged the legislation in court, arguing that it was unlawful since it had already been democratically rejected by Parliament just a few months earlier, and was subsequently brought in “via the back door” through ‘secondary legislation’, which required less Parliamentary scrutiny and debate.
In May 2024, the High Court agreed with Liberty’s arguments, ruling that “more than minor cannot mean serious”. The Court also found that the Government had failed to undertake a fair consultation period, instead only inviting thoughts from those it knew would be supportive of its proposals, such as the police but not protest groups.
Well said.
 
I recollect being on one of the EMA student protests sixteen or so years ago when thousands broke through a massive police cordon on Whitewall.

Many were swept along with the charging crowd and all were accused in the media of assaulting police.
 
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I recollect being on one of the EMA student protests sixteen or so years ago when thousands broke through a massive police cordon on Whitewall.

Many were swept along with the charging crowd and all were accused in the media of assaulting police.
I no longer know the ins and outs of public order legislation/policing, but the bit below is astonishingly tenuous, bordering on bullshit.

The Met said in a statement: “Conditions were put in place after taking into account the cumulative impact of the prolonged period of protest on Jewish Londoners, particularly when protests are in the vicinity of synagogues often on Saturdays, the Jewish holy day.”
 
Are you saying to email her?

As I can adapt my email to MP and send it on.
yes - it's useful to establish the narrative from attendee's perspective capturing both the timeline of events and what you witnessed as well as the mood of crowd and police (if you've got the energy)- apologies I got confused who posted the MP email up - it was you!
 
Account from a friend from synagogue who was there:


A few points based on my impressions of the day:
  • The PSC plan was to have the main rally in whitehall starting at 12, then send a delegation of the demo's leaders up to the BBC at 3pm
  • The police were being very heavy-handed in dispersing anyone who looked vaguely protest-y even before the midday start point. I was threatened with arrest on Trafalgar Square at around 10.45 because I was waiting for the protest to start with 6 friends, one of whom had a kuffiyeh. We moved around the corner but not onto Whitehall initially.
  • At around 11.30 a gathering of about 200 people had assembled at Trafalgar Square. The police deployed about 100 officers who individually threatened everyone in that crowd with arrest. The crowd thus moved towards Whitehall and I joined them. We were then inexplicably kettled at the north end of Whitehall for about 20 minutes.
  • After the kettle was abandoned by the police at around 11.50, we went south along Whitehall only to find that the police had erected a metal barricade across the street next to Horse Guards Avenue, between us and the rally stage. There was a two-person wide gap through which we passed, where the police were filtering demonstrators from tourists.
  • As we passed through, we were then shouted at by police and told we had to remain north of the barrier until 1pm for some annual school's parade - totally unclear why the police would not re-route that to not pass through a large demo. I was threatened with arrest by an offer again.
  • My friends and I ran south to the rally stage, joining hundreds of others already there. Police orders had been confusing and contradictory, and we felt safer next to the PSC stage where stewards were.
  • The police eventually let everyone else through for an uneventful static rally which lasted until 3pm. Ben Jamal of the PSC announced the intention to send a delegation to the BBC over loudspeaker.
  • The delegation formed up to pass through the police lines at the north end of whitehall, but the rest of the crowd followed them and formed up behind them around 3pm.
  • The police let the delegation and ultimately the whole march through onto Trafalgar Square peacefully. This was caught on camera and is on the PSC's social media.
  • The police let us march to the north-west entrance to the square next to Canada House before stopping the march. I was at the back of the march by this point. We heard from the front that people were being arrested - this was where most arrests on the day took place.
  • Hundreds of officers then came through the crowd to individually threaten us with arrest unless we dispersed. My friends and I went across Trafalgar Square to see if the north-east entrance was free, only to find it blocked. Police were swarming the crowd in large numbers, so my friends and I decided to disperse to a station by about 3.45.

Overall, the police behaviour and advice given to the crowd was aggressive, contradictory, and designed to intimidate. The cynic in me thinks that they were a) trying to take revenge on the PSC for refusing their plan, and b) trying to cause a fight to justify having tried to ban the march
 
Basically the Met have been under pressure for months form groups like CAA and CST as well as Chief Rabbi and Board of Deputies of British Jews.

Its been going on from the start of these demos. See this article from 2023

British Jews ‘forced to hide’ during London anti-Israel protests, says activist

This lobbying of politicians and Police is fair enough. What should not happen is that they give into it and effectively ban a march

IMO they police caved in to this pressure.

Do I blame them? Yes. Do I also think that they have been under a lot of pressure from pro Israel/ Zionist groups? Yes.
 
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yes - it's useful to establish the narrative from attendee's perspective capturing both the timeline of events and what you witnessed as well as the mood of crowd and police (if you've got the energy)- apologies I got confused who posted the MP email up - it was you!

I've just emailed Zoe Garbett as well a version of what I sent to MP. As London Assembly have some oversight on policing in London.
 
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