Incredible they made it out without so much as a scratch then
The risk was huge.
Incredible they made it out without so much as a scratch then
I think National Rail and the British Transport Police still make some public safety films. For exampleI wonder why they stopped making them. Weren’t they under national ownership when those films were produced?
But not everybody does. I don't say that as an argument in favour of more handwringing, but risk is just that - a possibility of death or harm. I completely agree that trying to eliminate all possibilities is a fool's errand, but there has to be a balancing of risk (and the harms it carries) vs benefit.Incredible they made it out without so much as a scratch then
TBF, the risk probably wasn't that enormous - but still significant - but the potential harm to the participants themselves was definitely huge. I know "risk assessment" gets a bad press (partly because it gets used as a proxy for "total risk avoidance", often stupidly so), but the notion of calculating a risk as <probability of something going wrong> x <likely harm resulting> seems a perfectly reasonable way of assessing it. In this case, there was a risk, but what is probably more significant is that the consequences of that risk arising were much more severe.The risk was huge.
Other people do. Your argument is the same as those people who take issue with paying taxes towards the NHS as they've never been in hospital.
I Tombstoning has been quite popular in this part of the world, with all its cliffs and deep water. Quite a few young people, especially in the more risk-prone groups, have lost friends or witnessed terrible injuries as a result
Yes. But it's done with a degree of supervision, with safety gear, people who know what to do if something goes wrong, and who know where the safe/dangerous places are. So it carries risk, but it's managed risk, both in terms of the risk itself, and the consequences should something go wrong.And here is a perfect example of what is wrong here. "Tombstoning" - it's just jumping in to the sea, but rags like the fail go ape about it cos sounds dangerous and edgy. The name came about not cos of people getting deaded, but the position you adopt to jump is the same as a tombstone. And then there's the cold water shock mob also warning against this. Where are the howls of concern for folk that go Coasteering? It's essentially exactly the same activity, but done by slightly older people who have paid money to do it.
Yes. But it's done with a degree of supervision, with safety gear, people who know what to do if something goes wrong, and who know where the safe/dangerous places are. So it carries risk, but it's managed risk, both in terms of the risk itself, and the consequences should something go wrong.
I didn't mean the situation was the same, only the reason people were objecting about money going into a pot potentially to help other people.Everyone has to pay taxes. Not everyone has to pay the "victim" surcharge.
I didn't mean the situation was the same, only the reason people were objecting about money going into a pot potentially to help other people.
I think when they are told whatever they have is incurable it'll have been a worthwhile risk.
Well as someone who lived right next to a sun station and played in a field with those pylon things (behind a fence with danger just like that public information film with the Frisbee). The temptation to go where we where not supposed to was unbearable, and yes we would get in. That film with the kid getting fried scared the willies out of us, as we thought it could have been us, and we didn't go in again.
One kid still wanted to, but we all said no, and nobody (in my group) ever went in again.
No children died.
Next time one of you moans about shoddy train service I’ll be reminding you of when you were bigging up one of the causes of service disruption.
I'm guessing they probably paid some attention to the risks eg depth of water, risk of immersion shock etc seeing as it was their lives on the line. Possibly more than people posting on here. Maybe not but they were right to think they'd get away with it cos they did. At the end of the day without the risk of death attached, illegality etc they wouldn't be doing it cos there would be no pay off.
Those 2 people are still not dead yet but have now have a memory of their butch cassidy moment. I think when they are told whatever they have is incurable it'll have been a worthwhile risk.
The DLR train wasn't delayed
I never said it was. People pissing around on rail infrastructure does cause delays though as if notified it has to be investigated.
... this time.The DLR train wasn't delayed
Yeah, whatever, grandad.
Then it’s hillarious instead.It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt.
You weren’t moaning about South West trains recently?
South Western Railway. In 15 odd years of daily commuting never once was the delay down to people jumping from the train in to water.
I said people pissing about on the infrastructure.