Same as the many people who work on construction sites who die as the results of falls. 'Not wanting to die' doesn't prevent those deaths. What they often have in common though is either faulty equipment or people doing stupid shit...
Pair of twats jump off DLR train into Canary Wharf Dock
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Same as the many people who work on construction sites who die as the results of falls. 'Not wanting to die' doesn't prevent those deaths. What they often have in common though is either faulty equipment or people doing stupid shit...
maomao
普費斯
Bad choice of words perhaps. I reckon the dock (which I pass on the way to work) is fifty ish metres across and the bit with the people on it about four metres. The momentum from the train won't affect the trajectory of the jumpers enough to move them very far from a straight downwards trajectory. They would have to try quite hard to hit the bit with the people on it rather than the water. Presumably they've accepted the danger of standing on top of a train and jumping into a big pool of water of unknown depth but not jumping off a train onto flat concrete.
I'd be more worried about jumping close to the pillar. The dock must be a few metres deep as they used to sail big ships into it but who knows how wide the pillar is underwater. I seriously doubt they did an exploratory dive first.
Ho Chi Ming
I only follow one party: the Mongo party
You're likelier to get the timing wrong crossing a road than these two were jumping into that vast expanse of water.
phillm
Trolling through Life (TM)
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
I hate bliddy tombstoners (It's called that for a reason).
funny that it is nearly always males ...
I've had to help drag one onto dry land, luckily nothing seriously damaged, but the cold shock and hitting head effectively knocked the plonker out for a bit and he nearly drowned. Local lifeboat crew were not impressed as the group had been evicted from the lifeboat pier / pontoon earlier and warned that the water was very murky and cold.
funny that it is nearly always males ...
I've had to help drag one onto dry land, luckily nothing seriously damaged, but the cold shock and hitting head effectively knocked the plonker out for a bit and he nearly drowned. Local lifeboat crew were not impressed as the group had been evicted from the lifeboat pier / pontoon earlier and warned that the water was very murky and cold.
bromley
...isn't as good as Lewisham.
Far better comments on that thread than this one.
Miss-Shelf
I'll meet you further on up the road
And yet....jumping off piers* can be safe if people have local knowledge of tide states and rocks etc
agree its dangerous to rock up and jump off big structures that create their own dangerous currents
*I'm thinking of small piers in Jersey that people have always jumped off and that are now being targeted to issue fines for jumping
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Long before the fail whipped itself up in to a lather about people jumping into water it was called tombstoning cos of the way you jumped, feet first with arms by your side, looking like a tombstone.
If you take the number of jumps in to water vs the number of injured people, the utter lack of danger does make you wonder what all the fuss is about, then you realise it's the Mail getting all frothy about it...
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
nope, it is dangerous.
apart from the risk of clouting something or someone, the cold shock is something the RNLI have warned about - see the "float to live" and "respect the water" campaigns run during recent months ...
Get involved | RNLI Respect the Water
About a decade ago (unfortunately I don't have the full details although I saw the whole thing) a local lad decided to swim out in the outer harbour at Whitby and collect a loose small boat that was drifting out with the ebb tide. He was using his local knowledge and being a strong swimmer, thought that it would be an easy favour to help the owner. About three quarters of the way out the cold gave him a bad cramp and he suddenly disappeared under the water. I know the inshore lifeboat crew fished him out quickly, and tried CPR but he was DOA at the hospital.
In 2013 at Whitby Harbour, three people drowned in separate incidents ...
apart from the risk of clouting something or someone, the cold shock is something the RNLI have warned about - see the "float to live" and "respect the water" campaigns run during recent months ...
Get involved | RNLI Respect the Water
About a decade ago (unfortunately I don't have the full details although I saw the whole thing) a local lad decided to swim out in the outer harbour at Whitby and collect a loose small boat that was drifting out with the ebb tide. He was using his local knowledge and being a strong swimmer, thought that it would be an easy favour to help the owner. About three quarters of the way out the cold gave him a bad cramp and he suddenly disappeared under the water. I know the inshore lifeboat crew fished him out quickly, and tried CPR but he was DOA at the hospital.
In 2013 at Whitby Harbour, three people drowned in separate incidents ...
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
What has cold water shock got to do with jumping in to water, surely the danger from that is the entering the water itself, not the manner in which you enter?
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
Suddenness and that they're unlikely to be wearing a wetsuit - might just give the game away.
I can't get myself worked up about these kids but I'd be amazed if they haven't now been arrested and banned from the railways (trespass). This does look like a pretty safe jump to have chosen but if I worked on the railways I wouldn't want them getting overconfident, doing it again elsewhere and ending up mangled under a train.
Idaho
blah blah blah
Oh honestly. If they got their timing so wrong that they jumped off 5 seconds later and landed on pedestrians on the canal path... Just no.
That's a pretty spot on punishment and statement by BTP is on the mark too. Fair enough really.
I enjoy these videos of people doing silly/dangerous things as much as the next person.
Like these guys climbing the Tate Modern chimney in the cold with no proper gear. Impressive but clueless.
These kids are pushing it further and further for views and can only end in tragedy.
I enjoy these videos of people doing silly/dangerous things as much as the next person.
Like these guys climbing the Tate Modern chimney in the cold with no proper gear. Impressive but clueless.
These kids are pushing it further and further for views and can only end in tragedy.
I should know this, but I had to Google it to be sure. It goes in to a general pot for victim compensation.
What is the victim surcharge?
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Not an entirely safe place to piss about around:
Man dies at Canary Wharf construction site after fall
Man dies at Canary Wharf construction site after fall
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
So a crime doesn't have to have a victim to be subject to the "victim surcharge"? Why not just call it a fucking fine?
Maybe because most people know that fines are the most regressive of penalties, so it's dolled up as being "for the victims" in the hopes that people don't notice that victim compensation did actually happen before 2012.
What wrong with giving a fine these twats? These twats aren't some poor OAP living in a cold flat or a single mom and even if these idiots are poor, their twattish behaviour deserve some form of punishment.
Did you only read 3 words? The point was, who was the victim here?
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
If the courts want to impose costs on these people for having the police fish them out of the water or whatever, that's fine by me. It's the attempt to dress it up as something that it's not which I find offensive. There are no victims here; the biggest danger those guys present is to themselves. So unless the money is going to be paid to them (which would be counter-productive to say the least!), it's bullshit no matter how much you might dislike those guys for acting like twats.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Although having said that, if there was an actual victim involved, they wouldn't see a penny of it: Victims and witnesses funding awards - GOV.UK
The money is paid to organisations (charities?) listed in those documents. I'm slightly cynical of the fact that a necessary service (victim and witness support) has been effectively outsourced to a bunch of orgs of unknown provenance, selected by a completely opaque process with unknown criteria for deciding which of them will benefit from having the strong arm of the state funnel money towards them.
The money is paid to organisations (charities?) listed in those documents. I'm slightly cynical of the fact that a necessary service (victim and witness support) has been effectively outsourced to a bunch of orgs of unknown provenance, selected by a completely opaque process with unknown criteria for deciding which of them will benefit from having the strong arm of the state funnel money towards them.
Yossarian
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There's no direct victim here, but if I had to choose somewhere to send the victim surcharge in this case, it would probably be to whatever fund benefits railway or emergency workers traumatised by having to scrape up the remains of less successful daredevils, some of which could conceivably have been encouraged by this stunt.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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When someone witness a death or has to deal with the actual death of someone, they often need some serious counselling. The money goes into a fund to help pay for this.
I've known people who have had this happen to them, it really fucks people up.
maomao
普費斯
They didn't die though.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Other people do. Your argument is the same as those people who take issue with paying taxes towards the NHS as they've never been in hospital.
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