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In most scenarios you shouldnt bother entertaining such thoughts. For numerous reasons including lack of sourcecode for the original firmware, lack of documentation, possible lack of hardware tools necessary for development. And the complexities of this sort of low-level programming. There are exceptions, but they are few and far between and tend to require a specific subset of reasonably advanced programming skills. Especially when it comes to corporate products as opposed to more homebrew type devices that might have been built on a more open DIY ecosystem in the first place. eg Linnstrument sourcecode is available, so I could modify that if I had the desire and time.

Are you saying that you don't recommend it?
 
Niiiiice! I really like Korg gear. What's not to like? Although, why is it all so expensive in Japan? Every time I eBay something, the results have a sprinkle of stuff from Jap eBay and my god! Even the postage is like £100! They know they're on Earth, right?

There's an iOS Wavestation app. I think it's a software version of the Wavestation. Just call me Sherlock. Is the Wavestate any relation?

Yeah Wavestate is the modern reboot of their, Korg's, Wavestation.


Granular synthesis is similar. There are a few iOS apps that do it. One good one is called Cloud, Grit, or something like that.
 
Yeah Wavestate is the modern reboot of their, Korg's, Wavestation.


Granular synthesis is similar. There are a few iOS apps that do it. One good one is called Cloud, Grit, or something like that.

Not sure which one you mean? Samplr, Tardigrain and Borderlands are a few decent ones. iDensity is another. I don't have Tardigrain but I do have the others. They're very good synths. Mad interface on Borderlands tbh.

Anyway I'm working on this ambient ish thing.

Nice! I love upright bass, my favourite kind of bass.
 
Borderlands, that was the one I was thinking of. Dunno where I got Cloud / Grit from...

Heh, that's actually not upright bass. A patch I made on the summit... Well it's all summit in that. Except the fx. Used plugins for those for consistency across sounds, good as the Summit's fx are. Recording with fx you lose flexibility.
 
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Are you saying that you don't recommend it?

Far beyond not recommending it, I'm saying you have fuck all chance of even having any kind of starting point for exploring the possibility unless other people happen to have already set the scene by finding a way to offer custom firmware for that device in particular. Unless the gods of reverse engineering smile on you, it is a hopeless quest.
 
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Borderlands, that was the one I was thinking of. Dunno where I got Cloud / Grit from...

Heh, that's actually not upright bass. A patch I made on the summit... Well it's all summit in that. Except the fx. Used plugins for those for consistency across sounds, good as the Summit's fx are. Recording with fx you lose flexibility.
Isn't there a grain delay unit called clouds, or something like that? :hmm:
 
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Isn't there a grain delay unit called clouds, or something like that? :hmm:

Mutable Instruments Clouds, discontinued but heavily cloned due to being open source. The creator of it may have been annoyed that it has lots of features but many people just used it for reverb.

I think they since released a successor to that device themselves recently but I havent looked into it.
 
Mutable Instruments Clouds, discontinued but heavily cloned due to being open source. The creator of it may have been annoyed that it has lots of features but many people just used it for reverb.

I think they since released a successor to that device themselves recently but I havent looked into it.

I believe that a lot of those clones are kits. I am wibbling off down the kit route as it's a way to buy Eurorack stuff in parts, literally. Like the Befaco stuff, I think all of that is available in kit form. I am eyeing a Rampage.

xenon, that is a great patch. Really sounds like upright bass. Love it. So jealous of you and elbows.
 
I haven't, I'm not that interested in rock star autobiographies and I've always found Cosey a pretty dull interviewee (the music is fairly unimpeachable mind)

You know, I have never listened to her music, any of it, TG et al, because she seems like such a tit. I know, I know.
 
If you've not heard anything by them I'd actually start with the recent Carter / Tutti / Void albums they did with Nik Void from Factory Floor tbh. The Throbbing Gristle releases all take a bit of work, but if you swerve the live albums there isn't that much to go at. 20 Jazz Funk Greats and DOA - The Third and Final Report are probably the two to start with. Chris Carter's solo album The Space Between is great, and Songs of Love and Lust are where I'd start with Chris & Cosey
 
Always happy to give tips - my main skill set is for live mixing, but I’ve done enough studio stuff over the years to be mildly useful...
 
Always happy to give tips - my main skill set is for live mixing, but I’ve done enough studio stuff over the years to be mildly useful...

Mate, from reading about what you do on your day job I think it's safe to say that you know a thing or two about mixing.
 
Mate, from reading about what you do on your day job I think it's safe to say that you know a thing or two about mixing.
Live and studio are two very different disciplines though. Working in a studio you have to have patience, tact and diplomacy. Live you swear at the cunts and tell them to get the fuck on with it :D
 
Here's something I made. It's a wee bit dubby and asian inspired.

Sutracomputer.mp3

It's good. It makes me think of title music or game loading music for a Japan based scifi thing. I mean that in a good way....
Are you using actual hardware or plug ins?


Hardware for all the sounds, except drums, when I use them.

I prefer hardware for various reasons. The hands on sound design, physical controls to tweek being a major one.

As far as mixing goes, it's an art not a science. There are some rules of thumb, rolling cutt off frequencies below 20hz, testing for mono compatibility etc. The rest is like carving out space for each instrument or part. Having motion, using dynamics to keep the track interesting... I'm still learning as I go.


There's loads of vids about various aspects, Daw specifics and so on. EQ cheatsheets for typical instruments, that get you in the rough area. Groove3 do good courses. I read a great book called the Mix Engineer's Handbook by Bobby Yusouski (probably spelt that wrong.) He talks to long standing highly regarded mix engineers of all genres and finds out their tricks of the trade.
 
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