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On this thread, we like synthesisers.

I'm not massively bothered about analog. Both have their good and bad points and tbh, I probably wouldn't notice it drifting out of tune, make a mad tune with it and then realise.

If I was going to put a lot of money into a synth it would probably be the Hydra. Not sure what it is that appeals to me but I could say that about every piece of gear that I have and I still know that they are for me.

The Westlicht Per|Former is a sequencer. I guess that you could see it as a tool for electronic musical notation. At least, that's how I see a sequencer. You put in a tone and then choose what note it will be, how long, how fast, how often, how many etc etc.
 
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bmd said:
I may have bought another synth.

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Not sure if it deserves its own thread or not but I fart about on my ipad with apps and there was an awesome Buchla 700 clone released yesterday. It needs work, there are some bugs but still, for £8 I'm not complaining. It's called the ID700.
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I take it your new baby is the Neutron? I swapped the two large oscillator tune knobs for the filter and vol knobs (any other two would do) as I kept knocking it to of tune accidentally. Not done it since.
For the money, it's ace.
 
danski said:
I take it your new baby is the Neutron? I swapped the two large oscillator tune knobs for the filter and vol knobs (any other two would do) as I kept knocking it to of tune accidentally. Not done it since.
For the money, it's ace.
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Yeah, what's the swap thing about? I've seen that in a couple of places. Is it just a practical thing?

I bought it to try to start a Modular drum machine. I was thinking about the Moog DFAM but their prices annoy me.
 
bmd said:
Yeah, what's the swap thing about? I've seen that in a couple of places. Is it just a practical thing?

I bought it to try to start a Modular drum machine. I was thinking about the Moog DFAM but their prices annoy me.
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Yeah, the big knobs are really easy to catch by mistake.
 
So I was wondering if anyone fancies making a tune together? Each of us chooses an individual part and we then make it? OR! And this is a bit ambitious tbh, we write down the different parts, genre, tempo, drums, bassline, melody, mixing etc etc and killer b (cheers mate, really good of you) chooses who will do what and off we go?!

eta: 1 day later. That's good then. :D

Here is a brilliant thread on Lines about resources for learning about all things to do with Sound Synthesis. Sorry if that's not allowed, think they're pretty mellow over there.
 
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Good to see my idea of a collabsteroo (is that the word?) has been warmly greeted by all. :thumbs:

On a mix tip, ravers, here's a thing that I really want to make into a proper thing. This is as far as I ever get because fuck knows. So, Urbs who know, what happens next? It is simply 6 tracks running at the same time. I have fannied with the volume on each track, or lowered it if you really want to get all technical, and that's it.

Wooaw uh wid wid wid
 
I don't understand how it would work. Maybe share loops of stuff we've done and someone assembles / mixes it? I'm up for a collaboration though.. Bagsy big atmospheric pad part or guitar if we have to choose...

Maybe just post loops on here, wav format and see who wants to do what with them?

Getting my excuses in, not done much just lately as hay feiver is interfearing...
 
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Good to see my idea of a collabsteroo (is that the word?) has been warmly greeted by all. :thumbs:

On a mix tip, ravers, here's a thing that I really want to make into a proper thing. This is as far as I ever get because fuck knows. So, Urbs who know, what happens next? It is simply 6 tracks running at the same time. I have fannied with the volume on each track, or lowered it if you really want to get all technical, and that's it.

Wooaw uh wid wid wid
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Nice groove.
Now make a change. Either to it, or something new.
 
bmd said:
Good to see my idea of a collabsteroo (is that the word?) has been warmly greeted by all. :thumbs:

On a mix tip, ravers, here's a thing that I really want to make into a proper thing. This is as far as I ever get because fuck knows. So, Urbs who know, what happens next? It is simply 6 tracks running at the same time. I have fannied with the volume on each track, or lowered it if you really want to get all technical, and that's it.

Wooaw uh wid wid wid
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Hope this doesn’t come across as patronising but check this.
patches.zone

Breaking the Loop | Production Tutorial

Learn creative strategies for moving beyond repetitive loops in music production, fostering more dynamic and engaging compositions.
patches.zone patches.zone

Sorry if that’s not what you were asking for :)
 
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Good to see my idea of a collabsteroo (is that the word?) has been warmly greeted by all. :thumbs:

On a mix tip, ravers, here's a thing that I really want to make into a proper thing. This is as far as I ever get because fuck knows. So, Urbs who know, what happens next? It is simply 6 tracks running at the same time. I have fannied with the volume on each track, or lowered it if you really want to get all technical, and that's it.

Wooaw uh wid wid wid
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Well there's no right answer obv. I'm bad at doing middle parts... But what I'd start with on that. Some heavy kick and long ish snare comes in. Not 4, 4. But like boom cha, boom chh, boom boom cha boom.

Then maybe some beeping square wave riff thing and the usual girgling acidy squelch thing perhaps.

I mean, I dunno really. I just play around with sounds til something sounds like it fits over the top.
 
xenon said:
I don't understand how it would work. Maybe share loops of stuff we've done and someone assembles / mixes it? I'm up for a collaboration though.. Bagsy big atmospheric pad part or guitar if we have to choose...

Maybe just post loops on here, wav format and see who wants to do what with them?

Getting my excuses in, not done much just lately as hay feiver is interfearing...
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This is exactly what I meant! We outline the parameters of the track, like BPM, genre, shit like that and then we all drop the wavs on here and someone mixes them. It's the someone I'm not sure about.

I'm actually beginning my understanding of Mixing today with a very good video course from Ask Video called Audio Concepts. I'm just learning about Panning. It's pretty logical tbh. Like, drums, you pan them how they're set up, either audience facing or the other way. So toms and cymbals on the outside of the mix, moving into the middle with the kick. In fact, the whole mix, pan-wise, is set up like how the band is on stage. Plus you must hard pan synthesisers to the left apparently*. I actually think I'm going to really like mixing.

danski said:
Hope this doesn’t come across as patronising but check this.
patches.zone

Breaking the Loop | Production Tutorial

Learn creative strategies for moving beyond repetitive loops in music production, fostering more dynamic and engaging compositions.
patches.zone patches.zone

Sorry if that’s not what you were asking for :)
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I am very grateful for any advice. Even stuff I have previous knowledge of. Your view will be different to mine and so on. Those are all loops but I feel like I have broken out of that problem in so far as I'm looking to mix them into a track. But yeah, that is something that I am still learning to move away from.

glitch hiker said:
I like synthesiser sounds! Here are some of them. Yes, this is deliberately cheesy :D

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PS I'm shit at mixing, which is why this isn't
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Nice one!

So. Does someone want to pick a genre or a ballpark bpm?


*I'm just trying to get Bees to comment. That's actually complete bollocks.
 
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SpookyFrank said:
Pretend I'm an idiot...what does this thing do?
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With synths like the Neutron, they just pump out a noise. They don't even have a keyboard to trigger that noise, so you have to have them hooked up to a midi controller. Then you can plug the output of the Neutron into the input of the Performer. The Performer then takes that input and mangles it. So it will make that note you've played on your Neutron, C for example, into a sequence of notes, C#, D, D, D, E, and so on. It can then make those notes longer or shorter. So the C becomes a Ceeeeeeeee. Or it can be a C C CE CE CEEEE. It will reproduce those sounds at a certain speed, or beats per minute (I know you know this but it's part of the picture) and it has 8 tracks that can each have a different BPM and a different time signature, Track 1 can be 4/4, 2 = 6/4 and so on. It is very deep and my mate, who built it and builds for Befaco which is very well regarded in the Eurorack community said that it completely blew his mind, that it was the maddest sequencer he'd ever played.
 
bmd said:
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I am very grateful for any advice. Even stuff I have previous knowledge of. Your view will be different to mine and so on. Those are all loops but I feel like I have broken out of that problem in so far as I'm looking to mix them into a track. But yeah, that is something that I am still learning to move away from.
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When you say “ mix them into a track” do you mean arrange?
Mixing is generally done to a finished arrangement where all the musical parts are in place, the song as such is finished and just in need of sonic treatment to make sure everything sits well together and add fx etc.

Depending on your approach, you can do some of this as you go but to try to do too much too early can be pointless as adding a new element to your perfect sounding track can throw everything out (compression and eq wise, mainly) so generally better til all elements are in place.

Sincere apologies if I’ve misunderstood.
 
I think it would be a lot more fun and interesting if a few people have a crack at mixing it. That way there'd be a few versions and we could bounce ideas and techniques off each other.
 
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When you say “ mix them into a track” do you mean arrange?
Mixing is generally done to a finished arrangement where all the musical parts are in place, the song as such is finished and just in need of sonic treatment to make sure everything sits well together and add fx etc.

Depending on your approach, you can do some of this as you go but to try to do too much too early can be pointless as adding a new element to your perfect sounding track can throw everything out (compression and eq wise, mainly) so generally better til all elements are in place.

Sincere apologies if I’ve misunderstood.
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Arrange them! Yes, that's what I meant.

So, we each come up with a bit of the thing, then someone arranges it and THEN someone mixes it. One of us does the drums and by do I mean make the drum track. The rest of us each do a track. Like one part of the whole tune, a melody or whatever. I think we should just choose a tempo and a genre and then we all just do whatever. By we all I mean me because I'm the only one who understands wtf I'm on about.

Piss up and brewery come to mind. But I do think it will be fun.
 
Ok, well, seeing as we have 2 and a half (you're on the spoons I think, Saul?) and others will jump on the tail of our massive glory wagon once it picks up speed, I am going to say what the parameters are. Parameters I said! Outline the things.

If you want to use guitars etc then crack on but I will be using a Sampler, a pc, a few synths and a drum machine. What about something like the Fuck Buttons first album? A simple enough endeavour. Only arranged and mixed by the prince of bassness himself, Andrew Weatherall. He did the album as a favour for their manager. Apparently when they gave him what they had done he said "where's the rest of it?" I have a feeling that might be the theme of this one

Tempo of most of their tunes is between 120 and 130. So let's say 125? Street Horrsing was called a 50-minute melange of iridescent synths, psychedelic drone, distorted vocals and tribal rhythm." So, you know, fill your boots.

littleseb it's basically all on you mate. :thumbs:

So just get a few tracks down and put them on this thread. Plagiarism will be considered frowned upon.
 
Now that I've recovered from the trample of sign-up for the tune, I thought I'd post what I bought yesterday. The final piece of my tiny studio. I have always wanted a decent drum machine and no, not a Eurorack one. I realised quite quickly that the Neutron wasn't going to cut it. Anyway, why aren't there any decent drum machines outside of those 4 numbers, 303, 808 & 909 and all of their imitators? There's the Arturia Drumbrute and Impact and then you fly over the moon to well over a grand. Anyway, I love the Vermona analog drum sound and they have just brought out the MKIV of the DRM1 drum synth (as opposed to machine), so of course I bought one. I had been thinking about the previous model but it didn't quite feel like it had matured enough. This one feels perfect.

 
This looks good. A documentary about the female pioneers of electronic music. It has a piece about Delia Derbyshire. One of the many cool things she did was to co-write the Dr Who theme tune.

 
bmd said:
Now that I've recovered from the trample of sign-up for the tune, I thought I'd post what I bought yesterday. The final piece of my tiny studio. I have always wanted a decent drum machine and no, not a Eurorack one. I realised quite quickly that the Neutron wasn't going to cut it. Anyway, why aren't there any decent drum machines outside of those 4 numbers, 303, 808 & 909 and all of their imitators? There's the Arturia Drumbrute and Impact and then you fly over the moon to well over a grand. Anyway, I love the Vermona analog drum sound and they have just brought out the MKIV of the DRM1 drum synth (as opposed to machine), so of course I bought one. I had been thinking about the previous model but it didn't quite feel like it had matured enough. This one feels perfect.

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So what’s it like? Got any demos?!
 
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