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this got to 11 in UK charts


heres the lyrics
parents - what age is this appropriate for in your opinion?

Wanna know what it's like (like)
Baby, show me what it's like (like)
I don't really got no type (type)
I just wanna fuck all night
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa (oh, ooh, mmm)
Baby, I need to know, mmm (yeah, need to know)
I just been fantasizin' (size)
And we got a lotta time (time)
Baby, come throw the pipe (pipe)
Gotta know what it's like (like)
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa
Baby, I need to know, mmm
What's your size? (Size)
Add, subtract, divide ('vide)
Daddy don't throw no curves (curves)
Hold up, I'm goin' wide (wide)
We could just start at ten (ten)
Then we can go to five (five)
I don't play with my pen (pen)
I mean what I write
Yeah-yeah, whoa-whoa-whoa
I just can't help but be sexual (whoa)
Tell me your schedule (yeah)
I got a lotta new tricks for you, baby
Just sayin' I'm flexible (I will)
I do what I can to get you off (I will)
Might just fuck him with my makeup on (I will)
Eat it like I need an apron on (yeah, ay)
Eat it 'til I need to change my thong (yeah, ay)
We could do it to your favorite song (yeah, ay)
Take a ride into the danger zone
You know my nigga be buggin' me
I just be wonderin' if you can fuck on me better
Itchin' for me like an ugly sweater
Need it in me like a Chuck E. need cheddar
I need to know (yeah)
Wanna know what it's like (like)
Baby, show me what it's like (like)
I don't really got no type (type)
I just wanna fuck all night
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa (oh, ooh, mmm)
Baby, I need to know, mmm (yeah, need to know)
I just been fantasizin' (size)
And we got a lotta time (time)
Baby, come throw the pipe (pipe)
Gotta know what it's like (like)
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa
Baby, I need to know, mmm
You're exciting, boy, come find me
Your eyes told me, "Girl, come ride me"
Fuck that feeling both us fighting
Could he try me? (Yeah) mmm, most likely
Tryna see if you could handle this ass
Prolly give his ass a panic attack
Sorry if I gave a random erection
Prolly thinkin' I'm a telekinetic
Oh, wait, you a fan of the magic?
Poof, pussy like an Alakazam (yeah)
I heard from a friend of a friend
That that dick was a ten out of ten
I can't stand it, just one night me
Clink with the drink, gimme a sip
Tell me what's your kink, gimme the dick
Spank me, slap me, choke me, bite me (ew)
Uh, wait, I can take it (ah)
Give a fuck 'bout what your wifey's sayin' (yeah)
Wanna know what it's like (like)
Baby, show me what it's like (like)
I don't really got no type (type)
I just wanna fuck all night
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa (oh, ooh, mmm)
Baby, I need to know, mmm (yeah, need to know)
I just been fantasizin' (size)
And we got a lotta time (time)
Baby, come throw the pipe (pipe)
Gotta know what it's like (like)
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa
Baby, I need to know, mmm
 
Well I've gone through the charts today, and I will say that Raye/070 Shake's Escapism and LF System's Afraid to Feel are both excellent. The latter of which is sort of wow.


edit: The Shakira song is good as well

Just found out that Afraid to Feel spent 8 weeks at no.1 last year. The charts are not in a bad way.
 
this got to 11 in UK charts


heres the lyrics
parents - what age is this appropriate for in your opinion?

Wanna know what it's like (like)
Baby, show me what it's like (like)
I don't really got no type (type)
I just wanna fuck all night
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa (oh, ooh, mmm)
Baby, I need to know, mmm (yeah, need to know)
I just been fantasizin' (size)
And we got a lotta time (time)
Baby, come throw the pipe (pipe)
Gotta know what it's like (like)
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa
Baby, I need to know, mmm
What's your size? (Size)
Add, subtract, divide ('vide)
Daddy don't throw no curves (curves)
Hold up, I'm goin' wide (wide)
We could just start at ten (ten)
Then we can go to five (five)
I don't play with my pen (pen)
I mean what I write
Yeah-yeah, whoa-whoa-whoa
I just can't help but be sexual (whoa)
Tell me your schedule (yeah)
I got a lotta new tricks for you, baby
Just sayin' I'm flexible (I will)
I do what I can to get you off (I will)
Might just fuck him with my makeup on (I will)
Eat it like I need an apron on (yeah, ay)
Eat it 'til I need to change my thong (yeah, ay)
We could do it to your favorite song (yeah, ay)
Take a ride into the danger zone
You know my nigga be buggin' me
I just be wonderin' if you can fuck on me better
Itchin' for me like an ugly sweater
Need it in me like a Chuck E. need cheddar
I need to know (yeah)
Wanna know what it's like (like)
Baby, show me what it's like (like)
I don't really got no type (type)
I just wanna fuck all night
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa (oh, ooh, mmm)
Baby, I need to know, mmm (yeah, need to know)
I just been fantasizin' (size)
And we got a lotta time (time)
Baby, come throw the pipe (pipe)
Gotta know what it's like (like)
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa
Baby, I need to know, mmm
You're exciting, boy, come find me
Your eyes told me, "Girl, come ride me"
Fuck that feeling both us fighting
Could he try me? (Yeah) mmm, most likely
Tryna see if you could handle this ass
Prolly give his ass a panic attack
Sorry if I gave a random erection
Prolly thinkin' I'm a telekinetic
Oh, wait, you a fan of the magic?
Poof, pussy like an Alakazam (yeah)
I heard from a friend of a friend
That that dick was a ten out of ten
I can't stand it, just one night me
Clink with the drink, gimme a sip
Tell me what's your kink, gimme the dick
Spank me, slap me, choke me, bite me (ew)
Uh, wait, I can take it (ah)
Give a fuck 'bout what your wifey's sayin' (yeah)
Wanna know what it's like (like)
Baby, show me what it's like (like)
I don't really got no type (type)
I just wanna fuck all night
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa (oh, ooh, mmm)
Baby, I need to know, mmm (yeah, need to know)
I just been fantasizin' (size)
And we got a lotta time (time)
Baby, come throw the pipe (pipe)
Gotta know what it's like (like)
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa
Baby, I need to know, mmm


I'd question whether Chuck E Cheese uses actual cheddar.

Is it not just an American industrial simulacrum?
 
This video is required educational viewing for everybody on this thread.



Though to be fair his point about the obscurity of that Brian Adams song is kinda jaw droppingly millennial.
 
this got to 11 in UK charts


heres the lyrics
parents - what age is this appropriate for in your opinion?

Wanna know what it's like (like)
Baby, show me what it's like (like)
I don't really got no type (type)
I just wanna fuck all night
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa (oh, ooh, mmm)
Baby, I need to know, mmm (yeah, need to know)
I just been fantasizin' (size)
And we got a lotta time (time)
Baby, come throw the pipe (pipe)
Gotta know what it's like (like)
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa
Baby, I need to know, mmm
What's your size? (Size)
Add, subtract, divide ('vide)
Daddy don't throw no curves (curves)
Hold up, I'm goin' wide (wide)
We could just start at ten (ten)
Then we can go to five (five)
I don't play with my pen (pen)
I mean what I write
Yeah-yeah, whoa-whoa-whoa
I just can't help but be sexual (whoa)
Tell me your schedule (yeah)
I got a lotta new tricks for you, baby
Just sayin' I'm flexible (I will)
I do what I can to get you off (I will)
Might just fuck him with my makeup on (I will)
Eat it like I need an apron on (yeah, ay)
Eat it 'til I need to change my thong (yeah, ay)
We could do it to your favorite song (yeah, ay)
Take a ride into the danger zone
You know my nigga be buggin' me
I just be wonderin' if you can fuck on me better
Itchin' for me like an ugly sweater
Need it in me like a Chuck E. need cheddar
I need to know (yeah)
Wanna know what it's like (like)
Baby, show me what it's like (like)
I don't really got no type (type)
I just wanna fuck all night
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa (oh, ooh, mmm)
Baby, I need to know, mmm (yeah, need to know)
I just been fantasizin' (size)
And we got a lotta time (time)
Baby, come throw the pipe (pipe)
Gotta know what it's like (like)
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa
Baby, I need to know, mmm
You're exciting, boy, come find me
Your eyes told me, "Girl, come ride me"
Fuck that feeling both us fighting
Could he try me? (Yeah) mmm, most likely
Tryna see if you could handle this ass
Prolly give his ass a panic attack
Sorry if I gave a random erection
Prolly thinkin' I'm a telekinetic
Oh, wait, you a fan of the magic?
Poof, pussy like an Alakazam (yeah)
I heard from a friend of a friend
That that dick was a ten out of ten
I can't stand it, just one night me
Clink with the drink, gimme a sip
Tell me what's your kink, gimme the dick
Spank me, slap me, choke me, bite me (ew)
Uh, wait, I can take it (ah)
Give a fuck 'bout what your wifey's sayin' (yeah)
Wanna know what it's like (like)
Baby, show me what it's like (like)
I don't really got no type (type)
I just wanna fuck all night
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa (oh, ooh, mmm)
Baby, I need to know, mmm (yeah, need to know)
I just been fantasizin' (size)
And we got a lotta time (time)
Baby, come throw the pipe (pipe)
Gotta know what it's like (like)
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa
Baby, I need to know, mmm

Deep meaningful lyrics there, presumably the singer is supposed to be an Orion? hence the green skin.
 
I honestly gave Beyoncé ago yesterday.. younger work colleagues were raving about her. I still don’t get it..
 
This seems like a good thread to share my dad’s best mate’s incisive analysis of the last 70 years of popular music:

“Elvis was OK and it was good music to get your arms round a girl on a Saturday night but the Beatles and everything else afterwards? Just a load of bloody noise”
 
this got to 11 in UK charts


heres the lyrics
parents - what age is this appropriate for in your opinion?

Wanna know what it's like (like)
Baby, show me what it's like (like)
I don't really got no type (type)
I just wanna fuck all night
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa (oh, ooh, mmm)
Baby, I need to know, mmm (yeah, need to know)
I just been fantasizin' (size)
And we got a lotta time (time)
Baby, come throw the pipe (pipe)
Gotta know what it's like (like)
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa
Baby, I need to know, mmm
What's your size? (Size)
Add, subtract, divide ('vide)
Daddy don't throw no curves (curves)
Hold up, I'm goin' wide (wide)
We could just start at ten (ten)
Then we can go to five (five)
I don't play with my pen (pen)
I mean what I write
Yeah-yeah, whoa-whoa-whoa
I just can't help but be sexual (whoa)
Tell me your schedule (yeah)
I got a lotta new tricks for you, baby
Just sayin' I'm flexible (I will)
I do what I can to get you off (I will)
Might just fuck him with my makeup on (I will)
Eat it like I need an apron on (yeah, ay)
Eat it 'til I need to change my thong (yeah, ay)
We could do it to your favorite song (yeah, ay)
Take a ride into the danger zone
You know my nigga be buggin' me
I just be wonderin' if you can fuck on me better
Itchin' for me like an ugly sweater
Need it in me like a Chuck E. need cheddar
I need to know (yeah)
Wanna know what it's like (like)
Baby, show me what it's like (like)
I don't really got no type (type)
I just wanna fuck all night
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa (oh, ooh, mmm)
Baby, I need to know, mmm (yeah, need to know)
I just been fantasizin' (size)
And we got a lotta time (time)
Baby, come throw the pipe (pipe)
Gotta know what it's like (like)
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa
Baby, I need to know, mmm
You're exciting, boy, come find me
Your eyes told me, "Girl, come ride me"
Fuck that feeling both us fighting
Could he try me? (Yeah) mmm, most likely
Tryna see if you could handle this ass
Prolly give his ass a panic attack
Sorry if I gave a random erection
Prolly thinkin' I'm a telekinetic
Oh, wait, you a fan of the magic?
Poof, pussy like an Alakazam (yeah)
I heard from a friend of a friend
That that dick was a ten out of ten
I can't stand it, just one night me
Clink with the drink, gimme a sip
Tell me what's your kink, gimme the dick
Spank me, slap me, choke me, bite me (ew)
Uh, wait, I can take it (ah)
Give a fuck 'bout what your wifey's sayin' (yeah)
Wanna know what it's like (like)
Baby, show me what it's like (like)
I don't really got no type (type)
I just wanna fuck all night
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa (oh, ooh, mmm)
Baby, I need to know, mmm (yeah, need to know)
I just been fantasizin' (size)
And we got a lotta time (time)
Baby, come throw the pipe (pipe)
Gotta know what it's like (like)
Yeah-yeah, oh-whoa-whoa
Baby, I need to know, mmm

Explicit lyrics are hardly a new thing. Here's the lyrics to Sheena Easton's Sugar Walls from 1984:

My sugar walls
My sugar walls
Where I came from there's a place called heaven
That's the place where all the good children go
The houses are of silver, the streets are gold
But there's more where you come from, my sugar walls
Blood races to your private spots
Lets me know there's a fire
You can't fight passion when passion is hot
Temperatures rise inside my sugar walls
Let me take you somewhere you've never been
I can show you things you've never seen
I can make you never want to fall in love again
Come spend the night inside my sugar walls
Take advantage, it's alright
I feel so alive when I'm with you
Come and feel my presence, it's raining tonight
Heaven on earth inside my sugar walls
Let me take you somewhere you've never been
I can show you things you've never seen
I can make you never want to fall in love again
Come spend the night inside my sugar walls
I can tell you want me, (my sugar walls) it's impossible to hide
Your body's on fire, admit it, come inside (my sugar walls)
Ah (my sugar walls) oh
Come inside (my sugar walls), my sugar walls (my sugar walls)
Come spend the night inside my sugar walls (my sugar walls
)

(Sugar Walls = vagina, in case you've led a sheltered life)

It was a hit in the US (peaked at 9 on the Hot 100, no. 1 in the dance charts). It scraped into the UK charts at no. 95.

Written by Prince, of course, whose Little Nicky inspired Tipper Gore's PMRC and Explicit Lyrics stickers.

I guess the big difference in the streaming age is there's less power for the gatekeepers, such as radio programmers, to keep explicit lyrics away from listeners. In the olden times if a song didn't appear on radio or TV or become an underground hit it was unlikely to bother the charts. Nowadays there's all sorts of online ways a song can find an audience.

No.5 in the UK charts this week is Venbee & Goddard's Messy in Heaven:

I heard Jesus did cocaine on a night out
Eyes wide open, dilated, but he's fine now
And if his father ever finds out
Then he'd probably knock his lights out
Gets a little messy in heaven


Once upon a time that could've caused all kinds of controversy, but no-one seems to have paid any attention as no-one really cares about the charts any more.
 
I like modern music. Every period has its good and bad styles. The trick is to simply enjoy it for what it is. I have started to listen to Paul Butterfield again though.
 
someone was saying that the current charts is filled with folky and countryish songs, i thought id click through
i swear if someone told me 3/4 of these were made by AI I would believe them
it all just sounds so weird and processed - very very strange to me
 
Explicit lyrics are hardly a new thing. Here's the lyrics to Sheena Easton's Sugar Walls from 1984:

My sugar walls
My sugar walls
Where I came from there's a place called heaven
That's the place where all the good children go
The houses are of silver, the streets are gold
But there's more where you come from, my sugar walls
Blood races to your private spots
Lets me know there's a fire
You can't fight passion when passion is hot
Temperatures rise inside my sugar walls
Let me take you somewhere you've never been
I can show you things you've never seen
I can make you never want to fall in love again
Come spend the night inside my sugar walls
Take advantage, it's alright
I feel so alive when I'm with you
Come and feel my presence, it's raining tonight
Heaven on earth inside my sugar walls
Let me take you somewhere you've never been
I can show you things you've never seen
I can make you never want to fall in love again
Come spend the night inside my sugar walls
I can tell you want me, (my sugar walls) it's impossible to hide
Your body's on fire, admit it, come inside (my sugar walls)
Ah (my sugar walls) oh
Come inside (my sugar walls), my sugar walls (my sugar walls)
Come spend the night inside my sugar walls (my sugar walls
)

(Sugar Walls = vagina, in case you've led a sheltered life)

It was a hit in the US (peaked at 9 on the Hot 100, no. 1 in the dance charts). It scraped into the UK charts at no. 95.

Written by Prince, of course, whose Little Nicky inspired Tipper Gore's PMRC and Explicit Lyrics stickers.

I guess the big difference in the streaming age is there's less power for the gatekeepers, such as radio programmers, to keep explicit lyrics away from listeners. In the olden times if a song didn't appear on radio or TV or become an underground hit it was unlikely to bother the charts. Nowadays there's all sorts of online ways a song can find an audience.

No.5 in the UK charts this week is Venbee & Goddard's Messy in Heaven:

I heard Jesus did cocaine on a night out
Eyes wide open, dilated, but he's fine now
And if his father ever finds out
Then he'd probably knock his lights out
Gets a little messy in heaven


Once upon a time that could've caused all kinds of controversy, but no-one seems to have paid any attention as no-one really cares about the charts any more.
Dunno if this was a chart thing, or if there was a chart 90 years ago, but popular music has always been bawdy

 
I've spent three months of this year in an office that has Heart FM on most of the time. I don't want to be too snobbish as apart from anything they play a few good songs, but it's the same 15-20 songs day in day out. The team that have the radio are obviously fine with that and in fact only complain when something like Amy Winehouse or Beyoncé is played because they're "a bit all over the place". Not that this is current chart music for the most part but I think there is a hard truth that a lot of people just want something a) familiar, ie. a song they already know or something that sounds like a song they already know b) polished and bland and pitch corrected c) a familiar artist who is a bigger media star in some way d) something they can sing along to.

I had a similar experience working in a physio gym in a convalescent hospital for older folks. They had a Max Bygraves cassette where he did this giant medley of these old songs Yes We Have No Bananas etc. He had good voice and I like those old songs but every single arrangement was exactly the same. In terms of the backing band they played much the same thing constantly for the whole cassette. They all loved it. Familiar/character they know/singalong/no surprises.

I don't want to be too snobbish...

That's not how I think about music at all, but it's how it is for a lot of people. And that's alright really. It's how it's always been and I think the music industry reflects that, sometimes to a bigger degree, sometimes to a lesser degree. The only new thing is the pitch correction/rhythm correction technology which is training people to like music that is perfectly in tune (to equal temperament which is actually weird thing) and perfectly on the dot rhythmically. I regard that as a shame.
 
I've spent three months of this year in an office that has Heart FM on most of the time. I don't want to be too snobbish as apart from anything they play a few good songs, but it's the same 15-20 songs day in day out. The team that have the radio are obviously fine with that and in fact only complain when something like Amy Winehouse or Beyoncé is played because they're "a bit all over the place". Not that this is current chart music for the most part but I think there is a hard truth that a lot of people just want something a) familiar, ie. a song they already know or something that sounds like a song they already know b) polished and bland and pitch corrected c) a familiar artist who is a bigger media star in some way d) something they can sing along to.

I had a similar experience working in a physio gym in a convalescent hospital for older folks. They had a Max Bygraves cassette where he did this giant medley of these old songs Yes We Have No Bananas etc. He had good voice and I like those old songs but every single arrangement was exactly the same. In terms of the backing band they played much the same thing constantly for the whole cassette. They all loved it. Familiar/character they know/singalong/no surprises.

I don't want to be too snobbish...

That's not how I think about music at all, but it's how it is for a lot of people. And that's alright really. It's how it's always been and I think the music industry reflects that, sometimes to a bigger degree, sometimes to a lesser degree. The only new thing is the pitch correction/rhythm correction technology which is training people to like music that is perfectly in tune (to equal temperament which is actually weird thing) and perfectly on the dot rhythmically. I regard that as a shame.
Absolutely, nothing wrong with a sing song and Yes We Have No Bananas is TOO GOOD for the Tik Tok generation ;) , but as you say the thing that makes it unlistenable to me is the production aspects, literally sounds AI to me .... Plus arrangements that came from Talent show covers.

Funny the complaint about Beyonce from your sample as Fold Em (or whatever it's called) is the one tune in the charts that sounds innovative and human to me, and its hardly out there
 
I’ve always said Knotted, just as with any other artistic endeavour (theatre, literature etc) there are the cognoscente, and then there’s everyone else, who likes Coldplay, Ke$ha, and jukebox musicals. People say “Oh I love this!” and I think you don’t have any idea if you like it or not, you recognise it, it’s familiar.

I’ve had to admit that’s yes, I’m a snob about music.
 
How is Amy Winehouse “A bit all over the place”? She absolutely stays in her lane, and her lane is in the main road of music.

And Beyoncé is Beyoncé to the bone. She’s not unpredictable or wayward in any way at all, she even comes up on predictive text with the accent and everything.

What do they mean by a bit all over the place?


They’re both great.
 
I’ve always said Knotted, just as with any other artistic endeavour (theatre, literature etc) there are the cognoscente, and then there’s everyone else, who likes Coldplay, Ke$ha, and jukebox musicals. People say “Oh I love this!” and I think you don’t have any idea if you like it or not, you recognise it, it’s familiar.

I’ve had to admit that’s yes, I’m a snob about music.
Yes but also tastes are formed through repetition and an industrial process, not in a vacuum.... Pop music is not an idealistic free market
 
Yes but also tastes are formed through repetition and an industrial process, not in a vacuum.... Pop music is not an idealistic free market


Oh for sure. You can easily trace the progression and copycat building through the decades, as well as the occasional sudden lurches into left field when there’s been a breakthrough hit.
 
Oh for sure. You can easily trace the progression and copycat building through the decades, as well as the occasional sudden lurches into left field when there’s been a breakthrough hit.
Also times when grass roots culture puncture the machine.... Right now the machine is back in total control
 
Absolutely, nothing wrong with a sing song and Yes We Have No Bananas is TOO GOOD for the Tik Tok generation ;) , but as you say the thing that makes it unlistenable to me is the production aspects, literally sounds AI to me .... Plus arrangements that came from Talent show covers.

To appreciate my point listen to this. The songs maybe good but they're pulverised into a consistent paste that just rolls on.

Funny the complaint about Beyonce from your sample as Fold Em (or whatever it's called) is the one tune in the charts that sounds innovative and human to me, and its hardly out there

It's an older song (Single Ladies I think) that Heart has on repeat. And actually to be fair it is quite rad.
 
Also times when grass roots culture puncture the machine.... Right now the machine is back in total control

Yep. Agreed.
I was including roots music of all kinds as “left field”. C’mon, if they think Amy and Bey are “all over the place” then even Lover’s Rock and the Oh Brother Where Art Thou soundtrack are gonna be way too radical for them.
 
To appreciate my point listen to this. The songs maybe good but they're pulverised into a consistent paste that just rolls on.



It's an older song (Single Ladies I think) that Heart has on repeat. And actually to be fair it is quite rad.


That track slaps ! It still slaps! And it was released 16 years ago.

Imagine if they had to listen to WAP….
 
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