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TomUS said:
The worst fear of the political & financial elite is that this turns into something like the 60s anti war movement. Somehow I don't think it will get that powerful. Back then youth were being forced into the military by the hundreds of thousands to fight an obviously insane war on the other side of the world that the US was losing.
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im not there, but from what i hear there is a parallel because poverty in the US IS affecting hundreds of thousands - this isnt a theoretical protest, its peoples (financial) reality - and the US economy still has a long way to tank.
 
Jeff Robinson said:
Check out this lacky piece of shit:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sohrab-ahmari/arab-spring-occupy-wall-street_b_998661.html

Utter scum - liberal democratic institutions and freedoms are not designed to facilitate challenges to the structural asymmetric power relations that Occupy Wall Street are protesting. In fact in and of themselves, they play a significant role in preserving and even deepening those inequities. Only grass roots social movement energy (cumulating one would hope into more institutionalised politics) can bring about such a sea change.
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This is what I've been talking about. This writer is not the exception - he's the majority. He believes in the government.

Even a grassrooted movement can't bring the necessary change in the government. The government is not in charge. And the problem is larger than the government.
 
ska invita said:
im not there, but from what i hear there is a parallel because poverty in the US IS affecting hundreds of thousands - this isnt a theoretical protest, its peoples (financial) reality - and the US economy still has a long way to tank.
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It's not just poor people.
 
Rutita1 said:
I have asked that the definition of 'white trash' be explained here...why the reluctance? I mean I am sure that to use such a term ironically you must feel you (not you alone) have a sophisticated handle on it's meaning/usage/definition right?
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I'll answer for Yuwipi if she doesn't mind since I live in real America. I don't know the origins of the term. It seems that it originally had a white-on-white racist intent which was meant to say something to the effect that 'proper white people don't behave like that'. Its meaning has evolved (like 'uppity') and doesn't carry the racist edge with it any more. Now the emphasis is on 'trash' and is really no worse than 'redneck' but isn't quite the same.

If your offended by it then so be it. That's not the issue I raised. My point was that you were assuming it to be a term for a whole class of people which it isn't.

Anyway...America is undergoing an evolution of class description that is far uglier than one based upon money.
 
ska invita said:
fair enough, but its grounded in an economic reality that everyone is experiencing (rich or poor) - as real as the draft was is my point
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gotcha - only I couldn't care less about the rich people. I think it's more of the middle class being fenced in and sheered when the powers that be want. Poor people only have so much money to take. Rich people are allied with the powers. It's the middle class that has the goods and no way to protect themselves.

Eyes began to open back during the last campaign when the bailouts happened. Campaigns are a time when political opposites show off their differences. It was interesting to see them go back to DC in lockstep....then return to campaigning as if nothing happened.
 
or what boss? :rolleyes:
he reveals that he had consciously infiltrated the group on Friday with the intent to discredit the movement. He states that “as far as anyone knew I was part of this cause — a cause that I had infiltrated the day before in order to mock and undermine in the pages ofThe American Spectator — and I wasn’t giving up before I had my story.”
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Or you and the other boosters will lessen the credibility of real stories coming out of this.

An agent-provocateur infiltrates groups to lead them on and into violence they would not have committed otherwise. It does not mean any twat walking into an open demo. Habitual and causal inflation. Stop it.
 
butchersapron said:
He doesn't admit that at all. This sort of hyperbole needs to stop.
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have to agree.. there's gonna be pricks popping up with the 'real inside scoop'.... they is all baby eating anarchists etc... they dont deserve the breath of publicity.. let alone life...
And if the c8nt really was involved there are 'security measures' put in place to avoid dickheads subverting the protests...

eta: how stupid is he to out himself like this :facepalm: hope #anon dont hear about it...
 
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Excellent
 
ddraig said:
don't think that is real tbh friedaweed
was posted and looks shopped
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Really:facepalm: doh hehe:D

Clone stamp tool kid makes it to wikileaks facebook page then :)

Sorry folks saw it and thought that America had finally woken up. :facepalm:

Oh well would anyone like some cake?
 
interesting coverage on Fox this morning, total plank Geraldo just could not get his head around the union presence down there, asking a union organiser again and again what they had in common with the protest, whilst the union organiser quietly outlined shared . broad anti corporate stance .

then they wheeled out Russell Simmins ! ( DEf Jam / Phat Farm boss ) to explain why he was down there supporting, who gave a sprited defence of higher taxes / anti lobbyist position....all looked very vibrant/chaotic.
 
It's the squandering more than anything else that speaks for how they see the taxpayer. They don't feel accountable to the taxpayer.

No explanation is given to the sheep after it's sheered.
 
Whereas the super rich and the wall street bankers are more accountable?

Take the money of those fuckers and put it into education, healthcare, social housing and the aliviation of poverty - or is that 'squandering' in your book?

In my book people dieing from exposure on the streets of the worlds richest country, or the thousands of lifes fucked by your shit health system or the millions of young people without jobs is criminal squandering and waste.

You see the old argument against this was that if you let the 'wealth creators' create wealth then we would all benefit more then if there contrained by regualtion and taxes in a 'trickle down' effect - a facile argument then and one now shown to be utter bollocks. They've defrauded the global economy for trillions and now sit on their loot whilst the rest of us get fucked.

People in their millions can see this quite clearly and their rage and numbers are growing.
 
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