i see wit equals having no respect for those who have died in conflict - actually you're over 16 because all schoolchildren have huge respect for armistice day and every school, office and place of work held two mins silence.
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i see wit equals having no respect for those who have died in conflict - actually you're over 16 because all schoolchildren have huge respect for armistice day and every school, office and place of work held two mins silence.
nonsense - we're talking about little boys and girls on this demo who got out of their depth
and what is a 'youse'?
It is indeed - there is a whole world of crowd dynamics too, as well as the group psychology stuff. (And bearing in mind that police officers are human beings too, this should all always be borne in mind when it comes to individual officers actions in mass disorder situations ...)
Nah. They're all pissed and full of fois gras
only on a good day!!
littlebabyjesus
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C(whilst, no doubt, the receptionist was merrily sorting out her e-mails a couple of yards away, according to madzone ...)
Get some perspective on this. They were student protesters, and I very much doubt anyone had cause to fear for their lives. If they were a little shaken up, well, that might show them that working for the Conservative party has consequences - the angry victims of your vicious policies might come looking for you. Tough.
madzone
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Classic no win situation - you can see them recognising the danger from falling glass (I, like many cops have (literally) seen arms and legs amputated by falling plate glass but it seems that fortunately this had been "filmed", probably as an anti-blast precaution) by putting a line both inside and outside it to keep protestors away as much for their own safety as anything else. Unfortunately the protestors failed to recognise that danger and insisted on surging through it, pushing the outside line back through it first. (whilst, no doubt, the receptionist was merrily sorting out her e-mails a couple of yards away, according to madzone ...
Still no pics of terrified staff?
Unfortunately the protestors failed to recognise that danger and insisted on surging through it, pushing the outside line back through it first. (whilst, no doubt, the receptionist was merrily sorting out her e-mails a couple of yards away, according to madzone ...
its the fact that the protesters were so clearly intent of pushing through (remember some at the back pushing wouldn't be aware of the glass situation). given that context i think the police should have moved aside. having an extended push and shove over 30 mins in that area wasn't a good idea, but that's just hindsight to be fair.
the receptionists would have vacated the area a good 30-60 mins before this from what i can tell. as has been observed the first group simply walked straight into the foyer and the clips show the staff were unperturbed. after the thousands outside started to try and get in some time later (and yes there was a signnificant gap) and the riot cops entered, then the reception staff would surely have left the area by then on instruction of management, police and common sense.
the reception workers basically got a free half day.
Oh that's OK then. Cos obviously the footage you saw couldn't possibly have been followed by anything else, could it.
I supposed we should at least be grateful that you saw that and not some estate agents promotional video showing us the newly refurbished reception area or you'd be demanding footage showing that there had actually been some windows broken because "the footage I saw had all the windows nice and shiny and new, not a broken one in sight" ... moron.
Oh so the 20ft square plate glass windows being kicked in by a chanting mob of thousands of protestors, being held back by an handful of police officers, so worried for their own safety that they have drawn batons were "at least 10-15 feet away" were they? Well I never. Fancy that receptionist being terrified! What is the world coming too! Some people eh?
I'm not "emotionally unstable" - I just hate prjudiced liars. And you are one of the worst.
I suggest you just fuck off and stop making a total and complete cunt of yourself.
madzone
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Oh that's OK then. Cos obviously the footage you saw couldn't possibly have been followed by anything else, could it.
I supposed we should at least be grateful that you saw that and not some estate agents promotional video showing us the newly refurbished reception area or you'd be demanding footage showing that there had actually been some windows broken because "the footage I saw had all the windows nice and shiny and new, not a broken one in sight" ... moron.
Oh so the 20ft square plate glass windows being kicked in by a chanting mob of thousands of protestors, being held back by an handful of police officers, so worried for their own safety that they have drawn batons were "at least 10-15 feet away" were they? Well I never. Fancy that receptionist being terrified! What is the world coming too! Some people eh?
I'm not "emotionally unstable" - I just hate prjudiced liars. And you are one of the worst.
I suggest you just fuck off and stop making a total and complete cunt of yourself.
Such a crosspatch
Yeah, there's a pattern if you look carefully.
Everything's fine whilst normal people are engaged.
Then lying fuckwits like you turn up and wade in ....
Now I wonder what could be the common factor ...
littlebabyjesus
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You're the common factor, d-b. Always. 
madzone
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Yeah, there's a pattern if you look carefully.
Everything's fine whilst normal people are engaged.
Then lying fuckwits like you turn up and wade in ....
Now I wonder what could be the common factor ...
Pictures/video of terrified staff please
There's plenty footage of the windows being smashed so it shouldn't be hard to find one with a cowering Miss Moneypenny in one of them.
But you're just as stupid as the other idiot ... No normal person would even attempt to make this argument.
Pictures/video of terrified staff please
There's plenty footage of the windows being smashed so it shouldn't be hard to find one with a cowering Miss Moneypenny in one of them.
who cares whether there's footage of terrified staff. Try being even remotely confrontational towards LU staff (if they can understand you) and see what happens. No-one should have to put uop with that at work - they should throw the book at this lot once theyve identified them including piling damage costs at them. Lets see if their parents like it once they have to foot the bill.
Get your facts right. 30 Millbank is a bulding in multiple occupation. The reception staff on the ground floor were not "working for the Conservative party". The vast majority of people in the building were not "working for the Conservative party". The reception staff at the Millbank Tower (which was also attacked by mistake) were definitely not "working for the Conservative party".
In fact, seeing as the actual offices of the Conservative party don't appear to have been specifically found and attacked at all, hardly anyone involved would appear to have been "working for the Conservative party" ...
the Officers should blame chain of command for insisting they were kept in situ achieving fuck all. the video posted above shows that when they lost that fight to defend the window access they then went to defend the lift/ stairs and access upstairs. they should of done that in the first place and nobody would of been at risk of a "Ghost" (the film) style slaying by glass. but no they were ordered to hold a stupid fucking line putting everyone in danger because their seniors couldn't see what was happening on the ground and didn't trust their judgement.
you're not seriously saying the reception staff were still at their desks during all this are you? you've basically accepted in your earlier post that they weren't when you joked about them carrying on with their emails. of course they weren't. they were probably half way home by then listening to the Killers on their ipods texting their pals for an unexpected opportunity to go for a coffee whilst updating their facebook pages on what an exciting afternoon they'd had.
I have absolutely no intention at all of wasting my time finding pictures that you can easily find yourself and which, in any event, any normal person would not need in order to conclude that whoever was sitting at the recetion desk shown in the photo I have already bothered to find for you would, clearly, have at some point been terrified and have left. (Otherwise they'd still be sitting there now).
Now fuck off.
I have no intention of ever engaging with you again. You are an idiot.
hardly anyone involved would appear to have been "working for the Conservative party" ...
yup and there's an interesting correlation between the numbers of Tory party staff on the scene and the numbers of general staff who have reported being scared or attacked in the papers: zero of either.
madzone
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So, you basically can't provide any evidence to back up your assumptions. Thought not
not really. they'd have been told to leave by management/ police or mere common sense/ opportunism at getting a half day.
butchersapron
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In fact, seeing as the actual offices of the Conservative party don't appear to have been specifically found and attacked at all, hardly anyone involved would appear to have been "working for the Conservative party" ...
They reached the reception of the tory party offices.
Just noticed this as well:
dylans
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No. Of course I'm not saying they were still there during all of that. I am saying that having been there happily doing their e-mails and not being scared for their safety initially (in the footage which madzone (never has a user-name been so appropriate ... though I think the "zone" bit could be improved ...) appears to believe shows the entire incident), things changed at some point and they (and everyone else) became seriously worried about their safety and so they, er, left.
It is fuckwitted to suggest that they would not have been at all shaken up by that experience, having to leave their place of work because a mob was smashing their way in intent on who knows what (bear in mind that a flare had earlier set off the building fire alarm and with the first having been set outside in the courtyard the threat of the building being burned would have been in some people's minds) and with the police patently unable to prevent them (by sheer force of numbers if nothing else). I would suggest that at the time the left their post they would, quite understandably, have been terrified for their safety. Any normal person, especially anyone who has been in anything like that situation, would agree with me.
madzone
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Interesting profile picture of a receptionist's chair being thrown through the window. She's clearly so terrified she's gone invisible.
Er ... seing as you are focusing on me throwing fucks into people I think that is pretty inevitable ...You're the common factor, d-b. Always.
I am suggesting that if you look you will see that I don't do it at random but that there is another common factor as well. It's posters acting like fuckwits (as madzone is here). And it's the same small group of posters.
madzone
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I've spent the last hour looking at footage from all sources - even the right wing press and there is not one hint in ANY of them of terrified staff. Now, you'd think the people dissing the protestors would be flaunting any footage like that wouldn't you? Wonder why they aren't?
madzone
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Er ... seing as you are focusing on me throwing fucks into people I think that is pretty inevitable ...
I am suggesting that if you look you will see that I don't do it at random but that there is another common factor as well. It's posters acting like fuckwits (as madzone is here). And it's the same small group of posters.
I'm quite flattered that this has become about me
perhaps only the z needs leaving out.
(I meant to add a smiley, but don't seem to able from 'edit'.)
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