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NUS national protest against the cuts 10.11.10 [London]

detective-boy said:
That was in the initial stages, when there was little, if any, window smashing going on - if you look at the pictures you'll see that a few protestors got in initially (through the door, and then through one broken window) but that then other windows were broken from the inside as well as from the outside.

It all got an awful lot worse later and anyone working in the reception area (and offices up on about the fourth floor (where windows were also smashed from the inside, fortunately not causing large panes of glass to fall onto the people below, I suspect more by luck than judgement) would have been absolutely terrified!
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There were plenty where I was working who would have loved the chance to confront the teeny boppers
 
detective-boy said:
You failed to mention the violence by "protestors" who didn't give a flying fuck if anyone got hurt, throwing scaffolding poles through police car windows, etc which caused the police to react in the way you described ...
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perhaps you should leave your orgreave clock at home and watch the poll tax footage chronologically instead of shifting it about to suit your own inclinations.
 
its well known and identified in many studies that when in crowds people do things that in other circumstances they would be horrified about carrying out.
 
detective-boy said:
When I was down there on Thursday there was a Poppy Appeal box trampled to pieces on the forecourt area and poppies scattered around trampled underfoot too. The security staff said that it had been on the reception desk, along with a collection box and that like everything else in erception it had been thrown out through the broken windows and either stolen or destroyed. They said the collection box hadn't been seen since (though someone else could have taken it for safe keeping and he wouldn't have been aware I guess).
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Oh ffs :facepalm: :D
 
madzone said:
The pains of glass were nowhere near reception.
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Absolute complete and utter bollocks.

I suggest that you actually find out what you are fucking talking about before you gob off.

The panes of glass WERE the fucking reception area - it was walled with plate glass on three sides.

Here's a picture to help you: see the desk? That was the reception desk and that is where it was. There was glass between the pillars in front of, behind and at the far side of it.

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Why do you have to fucking lie? :mad:
 
madzone said:
Are there any pictures or videos of these people being 'terrified' or are you making assumptions?
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Of course there are pictures and fucking videos you moron.

Many were shown LIVE on fucking TV. They were all over the TV and papers the following day. Many of them are even linked to on this fucking thread. Jesus fucking Christ, your prejudices really do blind you to everything don't they. Tosser.
 
detective-boy said:
Absolute complete and utter bollocks.

I suggest that you actually find out what you are fucking talking about before you gob off.

The panes of glass WERE the fucking reception area - it was walled with plate glass on three sides.

Here's a picture to help you: see the desk? That was the reception desk and that is where it was. There was glass between the pillars in front of, behind and at the far side of it.

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Why do you have to fucking lie? :mad:
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And we're off.

You are quite emotionally unstable, aren't you?

The footage I saw had people sitting behind a long desk and the windows being smashed were at least 10 - 15 feet away.

Now, can you come up with those photos of 'terrified' staff?
 
detective-boy said:
Of course there are pictures and fucking videos you moron.

Many were shown LIVE on fucking TV. They were all over the TV and papers the following day. Many of them are even linked to on this fucking thread. Jesus fucking Christ, your prejudices really do blind you to everything don't they. Tosser.
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So, if there's so much evidence you shouldn't have any trouble linking to it :)
 
madzone said:
Tit for tat is ok then? It's ok for police to dish out violence indiscriminately if they see themselves as 'provoked'?
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It wasn't "tit for tat", it was self-defence and/or attemtping to escape a violent attack. So someone tries to kill you and you believe they should just stay there or, if you really must drive away, you musyt make sure that you don't exceed the fucking speed limit. You really are a joke. :rolleyes:
 
detective-boy said:
So someone tries to kill you and you believe they should just stay there or, if you really must drive away, you musyt make sure that you don't exceed the fucking speed limit. You really are a joke. :rolleyes:
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If someone tried to kill me does that justify driving a van at speed into a group of unrelated people?
 
where to said:
Paul O'Grady on free education and using a fire extinguisher as a battering ram:


lol
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I saw that last night. Bloody good on him. There's all these lily livered tv twats going 'oh no we can't condone violence blah blah blah' and the Paul O Grady just comes out with it :cool:
 
If any "staff" were terrified I think they need to get their heads examined, they were never ever in any way under threat and I'm pretty certain that the vast majority found it a nice break from the boring routine of lowly paid office work, getting out early was a nice brucey bonus too no doubt.

All this moralising about terrified receptionists and poor broken windows is just chaff, the violence of these cuts and generalised attack on the working class by the tories is the issue and a few broken windows and injured cops is nothing in comparison and I'm afraid if we are to effectively resist these cuts it'll involve quite a bit more.
 
where to said:
i also think they made a defence holding the line outside the huge half smashed window pane, that was very dangerous for all.
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Classic no win situation - you can see them recognising the danger from falling glass (I, like many cops have (literally) seen arms and legs amputated by falling plate glass but it seems that fortunately this had been "filmed", probably as an anti-blast precaution) by putting a line both inside and outside it to keep protestors away as much for their own safety as anything else. Unfortunately the protestors failed to recognise that danger and insisted on surging through it, pushing the outside line back through it first. (whilst, no doubt, the receptionist was merrily sorting out her e-mails a couple of yards away, according to madzone ... :rolleyes:)
 
gunneradt said:
If you'd broken into any city office after lunch you'd probably end up needing hospital treatment
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All you rah rah boys out to teach the filthy proles a lesson.

Don't worry youse cunts already stand on the neck of the working class everyday.
 
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